Turn your son in knowing it’s the death penalty?

[TaupeLemur]

Kirk’s killer has apparently been turned in by his family - or persuaded to hand himself in.
Trump &’his supporters have been very vocal about getting the death penalty for the shooter.

would YOU hand your child over, knowing that the electric chair would be the likely outcome?

YANBU - I wouldn’t turn him in to die.

YABU - I would he’s a killer and deserves all he gets

If anyone wonders why men are such a mess,
consider that a surprising amount of mothers won’t turn their own sons over to the law even if they murdered someone.

Awful. Consider your husband might kill you and your MIL will protect him. 😭😭😭

I dont know what I would do. Especially if he was facing the death penalty. No I don't think I would tbh. But I might.

Fair enough, they usually are.

We agree on that.

It’s a complicated one. It sounds like they had concerns about his character and feared he could kill again in addition to the fact this was premeditated murder. He thought about it and decided it was reasonable to kill a man for having different beliefs to him, not a man who hurt him or his family simply one he disagreed with. He thought about it and decided that was reasonable then he planned it, picked up his gun and carried it out. That’s a lot of hours where he could have changed his mind and realised his behaviour was unreasonable and criminal. Time where he could have thought about the repercussions and who his decision impacted. I think I’d struggle with my child being capable of that.

Yes, safe in the knowledge that his mum will protect him from the consequences of his actions.

So? Do you believe governments don't do things like this?

Do you believe Trump is not capable of such underhand tactics?

Do you believe the right are attempting to take over America?

Why is this implausible to you?

Would the left not like to ‘take over’ America then?

Interesting view into your mindset. When the left are in power, that’s just and natural. When the right are elected democratically - panic stations, it’s a take over!

Yes. Just watching the BBC News. It looks as if this young man has had a very secure, affluent life and many opportunities. He went to college with a state scholarship, so can't be stupid, and he's done a bit of travelling. We're not talking here about a person whose life seems totally hopeless who lashes out in a moment of anger. If I were related to him, I'd find it hard to forgive what he'd done to his nearest and dearest, whose lives are now going to be ruined. And that's before we even get onto the horrific nature of the murder he's allegedly committed.

I get that but at what point would you draw the line? What if they killed someone you cared about? What if they killed a second time or a third? How many deaths would be too many for you to accept? How does it impact you to know you effectively sanctioned murder - that’s got to be a heavy burden? 🤷‍♀️ not criticising in case it comes across that way just think it’s an interesting thing to think about.

God I didn't know you were on crack too, fair play

Left couldn't take over America, only destroy America.

Nothing to do with morality. In the US there is an offence, a VERY serious one, of being "An Accessory After The Fact". In most US states the punishment is 50% of the sentence for the principal crime. For Murder however, it can mean a life sentence. You will also routienly be charged with Obstruction of Justice. This sentence would run consecutively the the first one.

So the parents/family members would have been looking at life in prison themselves. By framing it that they "turned him in" they escape a VERY long prison sentence.

This has absolutely nothing to do with turning their son in to the authorities because they wanted to make he "did the right thing".

They were looking after themselves.

Understandably.

No point in spreading baseless misinformation

The photos online are something else. Seems to be from a gun nut family.

Why would Trump arrange for one of his closest allies to be assassinated? Are you seriously saying he and his inner circle sat around saying 'We need a martyr. Charlie Kirk would do. People would feel really sorry for his wife and tiny children. Get the CIA onto it!' And then the CIA lines up this family, which genuinely exists and is part of a community, and gets them to agree to destroy their family and uproot their lives - for what? Money? How many people would have to be complicit in this conspiracy? This is madness. Far easier for me to accept that we live in a time where many impressionable people have become immersed in social media and have genuinely come to believe that people with certain beliefs they don't share deserve to die. It's not like this is the first case even this year.

Interesting! Well you can imagine parents that raised such a monster would only be looking out for themselves all the way!

If it wasn’t for the death penalty I would persuade him to turn himself in.

But, as much as it would break my heart, I couldn’t help him either :(

I'm guessing the killer knew full well that the death penalty was a possibility when he was inevitably caught. He also seemed to personally agree with the penalty as he doled it out to Charlie Kirk for the heinous crime of having a different opinion 🤔

Bit harsh. You have no idea about his parents or how he was raised. They did the right thing turning him in.

Agreed.

I'm more going off their own mantra. Make America Great Again. Kirk was backed by Trump and I think governments conspire just as as laypeople sometimes conspire to commit crimes.

The difference being they can do it professionally.

Yes same for me.

I live in the UK so I would absolutely turn him in because he wouldn't be sentenced to death, he would serve life in prison

If I lived in a country where me turning him in meant he was going to have his life ended.... absolutely not

CK would have been arrested for hate speech if he were in the UK. Opinion is one thing. He was riling up white supremacists.

No, people are responsible for their own actions. I don’t get to blame other people for ‘riling me up’ - they have opinions, I choose whether to take them on board or not.