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To tell my high school bully to jog on?!

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whattheheckkk · 08/09/2025 20:30

Name changed for this one. Really random.

In high school (over 15 years ago) I was subjected to the most atrocious bullying by the same girl. I was pretty well liked overall, never really had a problem with anyone. I wasn't popular, had a little quiet friendship group.
Except this one girl. I did nothing to her, but when we were about 12 she decided she hated me, and she made my life hell. She was racist towards me, she called me fat, she poured a can of Coke into my school bag during PE. She put chewing gum in my hair. She spat on my lunch whilst I was eating it. She stole my blazer and trashed it. Told me to kill myself. She even flicked boiling hot metal from a soldering onto my hands during electronics class. Much more but you get the jist. She had a little possy of friends who all laughed.

My friends always told me to ignore her, but we were all kind of too quiet to say anything to her- she was scary tbh. I never let on to anyone, but she gave me the worst anxiety. I would rush to the toilet to vomit if she looked at me a certain way in the hallways. I'd cry myself to sleep about it. She never had a reason to hate me. I never told my parents or teachers. I don't know why, I don't really have an answer to that.

Anyway. Fast forward. She messaged me 3 days ago. Saying something along the lines of:

Hi. I know this is a really strange thing to do and I know you probably never wanted to hear from me again. But then went on to explain that she'd had a child a number of years ago and physically cannot get past the way she treated me. How she looks at her child and feels sick because of how scared and upset I must have been of her etc.. and she's terrified of someone treating her child the same way.

She then proceeded to tell me she had been in a really bad depressive pit and has sought professional therapy, where the topic of me came up. Her therapist told her reaching out to me may be a way to close a door. Which I get, kind of- but holy fucking shit- she literally nearly killed me as a teen.

There was a lot more to the message, she gave reasons for the way she treated me( bad home life apparently, which I do sympathise with) but then went on to say that of course it was no excuse. She couldn't make me forgive her and I didn't have to but it would 'help her close a chapter' 🙃 if I did. I haven't replied. To be honest I've been spiralling a bit since the message. I don't know why, I'm a grown woman, married, my own house and career, my own children.

I did speak to my sister (who knew of the abuse as I'd told her years later). She basically told me not to reply and that she could bugger off. Part of me feels sorry for her, but I'm a huge empath. Anyway. This is a massive muddle of a message. What would you do?

OP posts:
LoveMyLittleFatCat · 09/09/2025 23:07

Good for you!

I got a similar message a few years back from a former line manager at work who took pleasure in making my life an utter fucking misery over 20 years previously. It was truly one of the most awful times I have experienced and I will never forget or forgive him for what he put me through.

From his message it was clear he was doing the Alcoholics Anonymous programme - apologise to everyone you've ever wronged. He didn't mean a word of it, it was just a blandly worded email. The funny thing was that I was now several grades more senior than he was when our employer eventually sacked him. Last I heard he was scraping an income selling shite on Ebay.

I blocked and deleted.

BatchCookBabe · 09/09/2025 23:08

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEZUZ, I am so sorry to hear you went through that @whattheheckkk (what you put in your latest post!) Whan a vile and sadistic cunt she is. Sadly this is believable, because whilst many girls are lovely, a few of them are utterly evil and vile, and I know several people who have been through similar at the hands of twisted, vindictive teenage girl bullies.. OMG I am so sorry Flowers

You are worth 10000000000000000000000000000000000 of her!

(I can't even say that number, as it's so many/so much!)

Take care lovely. 🤗

Wetoldyousaurus · 09/09/2025 23:10

Awesome response, good on you. She’s evil and she hasn’t changed. People like that don’t change. They just morph into different versions of the same shit. Narcissistic psychos. Her therapist should be struck off for telling her to contact you. I don’t know what is wrong with that industry these days but it seems they put very little thought into how their advice will impact anyone other that the person paying them to placate them. Fuck her, fuck her little gang and fuck her therapist too.

IhadaStripeyDeckchair · 09/09/2025 23:22

I too was bullied in secondary school & here are 2 girls who, if I saw them or they reached out to me, I would never forgive.
In fact I your shoes, it sounds like you suffered worse abuse than I did, I would respond honestly.

You bullied me relentlessly for years causing me physical, emotional & psychological harm. I considered self harm & suicide on multiple occasions. You ruined a period of my life that should have been fun & carefree with your awful, relentless bullying. I will never forgive you. You knew what you were doing was wrong, you knew it was having a huge negative effect on me but you did it anyway.
You are the worst person I have ever encountered in my life. I will never forgive your behaviour.

Then I'd delete & block them.

I could not give them the satisfaction of a non answer or forgiveness, which is what they want. " Oh, it's fine" "Oh, of course I forgive you" - it's not fine, I dont forgive you, you're a bitch & I hope you rot in hell.

KTMeetsTheRsUptown · 09/09/2025 23:24

What a truly nasty b'tard yr bully was. You have nothing to be ashamed of OP and despite that bully it sounds like you have grown into a wonderful human being. Sending you best wishes for the future ❤️

Letsgoroundagainnow · 09/09/2025 23:26

StripyShirt · 09/09/2025 21:57

I was making the point that the adult today is not the child of yesterday, ie they are effectively two different people, hence the futility of grudges.

Not your call, but a typical bully vile attitude, but a leopard never changes its spots does it?

You’re still a bully clearly..

You as an adult are still that vile child.

menopausalfart · 09/09/2025 23:37

What a sadistic fuck she was.

TheaBrandt1 · 09/09/2025 23:42

Jesus. Great response op. I totally disagree with you stripey. Yes we grow and mature and likely we’ve all done daft things as youngsters. But the behaviour meted out to lovely op was next level. I cannot believe a good person would ever behave like that - at any age, That’s calculated sick cruelty over a ling period of time. So sorry poor op had the misfortune to cross paths with such an evil freak.

Supermam · 09/09/2025 23:43

OP, that was the perfect, perfect response. Well done! So incredibly proud of you. ❤️Close (Slam!) that door and never waste another moment’s thought on her.

itsoktonotbeokitstrue · 09/09/2025 23:44

People who suggest things such as “ we were all just kids”, “we were growing up”, “it was a long time ago” etc… are bullies.
I had horrendous bullying, the worst were being chased with a knife, spat on, slapped, universal indicator thrown in my eyes, not having anyone to sit with in lessons, not getting picked for p.e till last, hiding in the loos to eat my lunch because if they found me god knows. Circled around after school, having to be escorted by teachers, threatened, isolated all the rest.

JohnTheRevelator · 09/09/2025 23:49

I would tell her to fuck off.

Charlize43 · 09/09/2025 23:50

I suppose sending a blank card with the words, 'I'm coming for your child.' sounds too Stephen King-ish,

FireBreathingDragon · 10/09/2025 00:12

whattheheckkk · 08/09/2025 20:30

Name changed for this one. Really random.

In high school (over 15 years ago) I was subjected to the most atrocious bullying by the same girl. I was pretty well liked overall, never really had a problem with anyone. I wasn't popular, had a little quiet friendship group.
Except this one girl. I did nothing to her, but when we were about 12 she decided she hated me, and she made my life hell. She was racist towards me, she called me fat, she poured a can of Coke into my school bag during PE. She put chewing gum in my hair. She spat on my lunch whilst I was eating it. She stole my blazer and trashed it. Told me to kill myself. She even flicked boiling hot metal from a soldering onto my hands during electronics class. Much more but you get the jist. She had a little possy of friends who all laughed.

My friends always told me to ignore her, but we were all kind of too quiet to say anything to her- she was scary tbh. I never let on to anyone, but she gave me the worst anxiety. I would rush to the toilet to vomit if she looked at me a certain way in the hallways. I'd cry myself to sleep about it. She never had a reason to hate me. I never told my parents or teachers. I don't know why, I don't really have an answer to that.

Anyway. Fast forward. She messaged me 3 days ago. Saying something along the lines of:

Hi. I know this is a really strange thing to do and I know you probably never wanted to hear from me again. But then went on to explain that she'd had a child a number of years ago and physically cannot get past the way she treated me. How she looks at her child and feels sick because of how scared and upset I must have been of her etc.. and she's terrified of someone treating her child the same way.

She then proceeded to tell me she had been in a really bad depressive pit and has sought professional therapy, where the topic of me came up. Her therapist told her reaching out to me may be a way to close a door. Which I get, kind of- but holy fucking shit- she literally nearly killed me as a teen.

There was a lot more to the message, she gave reasons for the way she treated me( bad home life apparently, which I do sympathise with) but then went on to say that of course it was no excuse. She couldn't make me forgive her and I didn't have to but it would 'help her close a chapter' 🙃 if I did. I haven't replied. To be honest I've been spiralling a bit since the message. I don't know why, I'm a grown woman, married, my own house and career, my own children.

I did speak to my sister (who knew of the abuse as I'd told her years later). She basically told me not to reply and that she could bugger off. Part of me feels sorry for her, but I'm a huge empath. Anyway. This is a massive muddle of a message. What would you do?

I would send her a message along the lines:

Seems you are eaten up with guilt over the abuse you inflicted on me for those years. Glad you have taken it upon yourself to find a therapist for your sadistic behaviour (do you remember scalding me with a soldering iron?)

Obviously I do not accept your belated apology as quite frankly I want nothing to do with someone as unhinged as you are (do you remember telling me to kill myself?).

Funny story: I took the trouble of having a voodoo doll made in your form years ago, it’s in the loft. Your message has reminded me of its whereabouts so I think I’ll get it down later and try it out. Just out of interest, which leg do you prefer, the right or left?

Please don’t message me again.

…..!!! 😂

ThisGreenShaker · 10/09/2025 00:15

1AnotherOne · 08/09/2025 20:38

I could never forgive this but I would want to respond.

id probably go along the lines of ‘hope this made you feel better and I sincerely hope your child never has to endure what I did from you’

This has got to be the best reply!

“ I sincerely hope your child doesn't have to endure what you did to me!!

It is saying that you have read her pity letter, but your not letting her in to your head again!

LadyLolaRuben · 10/09/2025 00:15

Well done. Great response, factual, polite and assertive.

After your latest update...what an utter disgusting scumbag she is. I can't believe she is totally different character as an adult, people don't change that much surely.

You've had the last word, don't let her ever communicate with you again. Let YOUR words and HER OWN memories of her actions haunt her. Its what she deserves, the author of her own misery.

You've fully closed a chapter in style. Run free OP xx

ThisGreenShaker · 10/09/2025 00:17

FireBreathingDragon · 10/09/2025 00:12

I would send her a message along the lines:

Seems you are eaten up with guilt over the abuse you inflicted on me for those years. Glad you have taken it upon yourself to find a therapist for your sadistic behaviour (do you remember scalding me with a soldering iron?)

Obviously I do not accept your belated apology as quite frankly I want nothing to do with someone as unhinged as you are (do you remember telling me to kill myself?).

Funny story: I took the trouble of having a voodoo doll made in your form years ago, it’s in the loft. Your message has reminded me of its whereabouts so I think I’ll get it down later and try it out. Just out of interest, which leg do you prefer, the right or left?

Please don’t message me again.

…..!!! 😂

This is brilliant!

Send it, send it 🤣

Onceisenoughta · 10/09/2025 00:22

Bin it & block her. Take the message as an apology but that's it - let her stew in it for ever. Save your empathy for people who deserve it x

declutteringmymind · 10/09/2025 00:26

So she’s making her mistreatment of you all about her and her feelings?

Did she apologise?

Did she even try and understand how she made you feel and the impact of her behaviour?

why does she feel entitled to forgiveness? Is she sorry? Has she changed? What does it matter to you?

Why does she get to determine how you feel/don’t feel about her? Just because she ‘feels bad ?

and how intrusive of her to expect you to respond at the click of her fingers? Do so in your own time, if and when you are

Inwould leave her on read.

Miaminmoo · 10/09/2025 00:51

I wouldn’t respond and if I did it would be to tell her to go fuck herself. I was bullied in a similar fashion but by a group of boys, I had the misfortune to run in to one years later and he actually tried to talk to me, he got told to go fuck himself as well. You don’t owe that person anything and we all had shit to deal with growing up but most of us didn’t decide the way to deal with it was by making someone else miserable. Despite me believing it actually made me stronger and more determined to succeed, I still won’t ever forgive the culprits.

Tropizienne · 10/09/2025 00:51

Wow. That’s quite emotionally manipulative of her. Quel surprise! I’m really unsure how I’d respond. Part of me feels it could be healing all round. The other part feels like she should just jog on. Her guilt & her child’s welfare are nothing to do with you. I think she’s manipulating you & guilt tripping you into clearing her conscience. Tell her to find a priest to confess her sins to instead as it is re traumatising for you & not helpful to have to re-live. Has she acknowledged the possible damage (of that nature) her contacting you could possibly cause you? If not & it’s all how terrible it is for her I’d refuse. Yes she’s said she realises you will not be expecting nor want to hear from her. But if she doesn’t empathise with & show genuine remorse for how she brutally hurt you, I’d tell her to carry on. Tough one OP. Let us know how it pans out.

Tortielady · 10/09/2025 01:13

YetAnotherAlias62 · 09/09/2025 12:44

Well done - very occasionally I wonder what I'd do if I bumped into the girl who used to bully me and now I know, I'd do what you did.
Although I'd probably include the "Fuck you Angela" bit 😂

Mine was Angela too. Actually there were two Angelas and if Angela W is out there, it's not you. It was Angela D at the school I was at before. Angela D had an aesthetic that involved pleated skirts and stripey jumpers like Minnie the Minx, but a sharp, spiteful face like Fusspot - readers of Whizzer and Chips will remember Fusspot. She'd sit next to me in class and punch me repeatedly on my right arm till it hurt all the time. I never understood why as I did nothing to hurt her. She was a nasty, warped little sociopath and she knew what she was doing. I hope she didn't have children - they'd have been either deeply unhappy or just like her.

QuayshhLawrain · 10/09/2025 01:24

I'm so sorry for what you went through @whattheheckkk, no child should ever have to endure something so awful.

FUCK YOU GEMMA.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 10/09/2025 06:53

whattheheckkk · 09/09/2025 21:59

Thank you so much everyone. I decided to switch off for the day and I've just spent a bit of time before bed reading the new comments. I'm so grateful for everyone's kind messages. I've never had so many people tell them they're proud of me ❤️ really, really lovely. Thank you for all the support. I feel really at peace with everything. I'm sure new emotions will still surface because after all this was years of abuse. But right now I feel a sense of relief x

Just a side note. To those saying I over reacted with my reply and that it was too harsh. That is completely fine, you're all welcome to your opinions, that's what I asked for after all! But I thought I would just add one more thing. I didn't want to put it in my original post as it is so dark and I feel so much shame.

So when I was about 13/14. I was walking home after a club. She knew I walked the back way and not many others did. She waited for me and assaulted me. She didn't punch me or kick me. Instead, her friends held me down whilst she smothered her used sanitary towel all over my face, in my mouth, in my eyes and in my hair. I had to walk another 20 minutes home covered in remnants of her blood. My parents were both in work when I got home. I showered and got into bed.

Her friends must've known she had gone too far as one told the teachers we'd had a scuffle after school and they spoke to us both separately and highlighted the importance of not fighting. My parents were disappointed I had been involved in said scuffle. I didn't say a word, too much shame.

So yeah, I feel pretty justified on my reply. Please imagine this happening to your daughter. Upon reflection, she was not damaged. She was evil.

To those saying I over reacted with my reply and that it was too harsh.

They just have never been where you are. I have. Your reply was perfect.

Leteveryoneseeit · 10/09/2025 07:10

whattheheckkk · 09/09/2025 21:59

Thank you so much everyone. I decided to switch off for the day and I've just spent a bit of time before bed reading the new comments. I'm so grateful for everyone's kind messages. I've never had so many people tell them they're proud of me ❤️ really, really lovely. Thank you for all the support. I feel really at peace with everything. I'm sure new emotions will still surface because after all this was years of abuse. But right now I feel a sense of relief x

Just a side note. To those saying I over reacted with my reply and that it was too harsh. That is completely fine, you're all welcome to your opinions, that's what I asked for after all! But I thought I would just add one more thing. I didn't want to put it in my original post as it is so dark and I feel so much shame.

So when I was about 13/14. I was walking home after a club. She knew I walked the back way and not many others did. She waited for me and assaulted me. She didn't punch me or kick me. Instead, her friends held me down whilst she smothered her used sanitary towel all over my face, in my mouth, in my eyes and in my hair. I had to walk another 20 minutes home covered in remnants of her blood. My parents were both in work when I got home. I showered and got into bed.

Her friends must've known she had gone too far as one told the teachers we'd had a scuffle after school and they spoke to us both separately and highlighted the importance of not fighting. My parents were disappointed I had been involved in said scuffle. I didn't say a word, too much shame.

So yeah, I feel pretty justified on my reply. Please imagine this happening to your daughter. Upon reflection, she was not damaged. She was evil.

This is beyond horrific - I can’t imagine the deep trauma you suffered.

I would suggest that this probably counts as a sexual assault and I would report it as an historic incident. There were many witnesses and this story would have gone round the school as she boasted and gloated about it.

Interesting that she hasn’t listed out all the detail or extent of the incidents - she probably presented stuff to her therapist as ‘pranks’.

This is deeply disturbing and unhinged behaviour. I am so sorry you were terrorised like this during the already vulnerable and challenging teenage years.

Letsgoroundagainnow · 10/09/2025 07:11

itsoktonotbeokitstrue · 09/09/2025 23:44

People who suggest things such as “ we were all just kids”, “we were growing up”, “it was a long time ago” etc… are bullies.
I had horrendous bullying, the worst were being chased with a knife, spat on, slapped, universal indicator thrown in my eyes, not having anyone to sit with in lessons, not getting picked for p.e till last, hiding in the loos to eat my lunch because if they found me god knows. Circled around after school, having to be escorted by teachers, threatened, isolated all the rest.

You are absolutely correct! How bullies can tell victims they “shouldn’t hold a grudge” god only knows! It’s obviously to make them feel better and forgiven. No, life with what you’ve done and hold that worry that your child may one day be a victim of someone like them.

What you experienced is life changing and I’m sorry.

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