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To think most men are filthy losers

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fightbackorriseabove · 07/09/2025 18:05

I'm going through the menopause, so have a low libido at the moment, which might explain my disgust. I don't know. I didn't use to be a prude, but I'm feeling more and more annoyed these days by men and their general behaviour.

I have a few male friends who, to varying degrees, always manage to slip in an innuendo or even an outright sexual remark. And out of politeness, or not wanting to cause a scene, I smile or roll my eyes in jest. I can only think of one occasion when I told a bloke to stop, and he REALLY took the hump. This was a married man who pursued me, but then said he was just joking and that I took myself too seriously. In fact, he got very angry.

I have lots of personal issues at the moment. Mad stuff. One of these issues lead to me googling my ex.

Well, the filth I found was disturbing. Men, thousands of them, masturbating online. I can only think they're doing it in front of each other. Becsuse there can't be many women wanting to sit and watch them. Surely? My ex was one of them.

I'm not talking about Only Fans where people pay. I'm talking about sex webcam stuff where men seem to just be filming themselves wanking. And watching each other. I don't even think it's gay. These are heterosexual men doing it for free. All ages.

Maybe I'm naïve.

But it's been a real eye opener for me.

I always knew men watched porn. But sitting there filming themselves and watching each other. It's madness.

I really do think that we, as women, spend our time worrying, working, caring, thinking, planning... and men just do the stuff thry have to do and then go back to messing with themselves or pestering women. Including their wives. And they keep having to up the limit because they can't get excited uness it's something really vile.

How many of us have felt obliged to have sex with a man, a partner, to avoid his anger, sulking, grumpiness. We've chosen sex as the lesser of two evils when we didn't want it.

It's not a human right, is it? They need to calm the fuck down.

Maybe I'm being unreasonable and grumpy, but I just think most of them ming.

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TheJoyOfWriting · 08/09/2025 20:15

GingerPower · 08/09/2025 20:05

But then you go and watch all the social experiments online and see how men rush to the aid of a woman, whilst everybody laughs and records it on their phones when she attacks the man.

That's partly for the practical reason that a woman is a LOT less likely to be strong enough to seriously harm a man the way a man can harm a woman.

But laughing & recording is vile, as is anyone being attacked.. Not sure it's confined to women attacking men though. I've read of several rape cases where people laughed & recorded, and people are generally not keen to aid others in distress: that's why it's advised to shout 'Fire!' rather than 'Help'!'

TheJoyOfWriting · 08/09/2025 20:17

GingerPower · 08/09/2025 20:02

It was already acknowledged as the likely reason pages ago. The point was that nobody tends to look for explanations when men commit violent crimes.

Some people do often defend criomimals in general w 'bad upbringing' or other excuses. Wrong in any case.

fightbackorriseabove · 08/09/2025 20:26

ForNoisyCat · 08/09/2025 20:14

I wondered about that too! You’d have to be on a dark web surely?

Yes. It was the first thing that came up. I don't know anything about the dark web or whether I was on it or not. I googled his username and that's what I saw. The second hit on the list was him coming third in a local chess tournament. I didn't stay for long, but from what I could tell there were free videos and pictures and then he'll do live shows for money or points or something. I'm not going on it again to check. But this is the truth. He has a very specific username. To be honest, I don't know why I did it. I've basically got a court date coming up in December and wanted to get as much stuff together as I could.

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SerafinasGoose · 08/09/2025 20:33

ForNoisyCat · 08/09/2025 20:14

I wondered about that too! You’d have to be on a dark web surely?

No. You can’t just run a general search on a browser in the same way you can on the clear web. You have to know precisely what you’re looking for and have interests in specific topics located via algorithms.

If the poster ran a search for this guy’s username and uncovered him in this way, then they’re operating in plain sight on the mainstream www. This IMO is even more disturbing if true as it shows how men’s predilections are indulged with complete impunity.

It’s grim as fuck, but it’s not on the level of some of the depraved stuff circulating on the dark web.

fightbackorriseabove · 08/09/2025 20:37

I just had a bit of a CHAT GPT session. This was the conclusion:

The majority of men — globally — still hold some level of sexist belief or participate in harmful behaviors, even if they don't see it as wrong. Some of it is cultural, some of it is peer pressure or online influence, and some of it is just plain entitlement. While progress is happening in some areas, the data shows that sexism, sexual pressure, and online abuse are not fringe behaviors — they are common, often ignored, and in some cases, getting worse.

Now, I know this wouldn't stand up to academic scrutiny, but it's interesting.

And I asked it for the counter view:

While it's true that sexist beliefs and problematic sexual behaviors are widespread among men, the full picture is more complex. Many men are evolving, many are not malicious, and a growing number are stepping up to support equality, question toxic norms, and reject violence or coercion. The key is recognizing that both truths can exist at once — we can hold men accountable while also acknowledging the potential and progress happening across generations and cultures.

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fightbackorriseabove · 08/09/2025 20:40

Obviously, using CHAT GPT isn't going to end the debate! But I did find it interesting. I'd rather have a proper good chat about it all, of course. And I think this thread has been revealing in so many ways. So, thank you everyone! 💚

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ThatWasJustANoise · 08/09/2025 20:48

Harry12345 · 08/09/2025 19:05

I do, I have 3 lovely sons, I know some lovely men but I’ve also experienced multiple sexual assaults, inappropriate behaviour and intimidation by men since the age of 13. You only need to read the comments by hundreds of men on recent articles about Pamela Anderson’s, Nelly furtado and katie price to see how disgusting many men’s attitudes are towards woman. They lusted over them whilst they were attractive to them and now they’re not the comments made are vile, thousand of comments about how many sexual partners they’ve had, what their vaginas look like, how they’re past it and have let themselves go, many stating there’s no excuse for a woman not being in amazing shape after children. This is post after post of misogynistic comments. So yeah I will say that far too many men are disgusting.

So you haven't seen the bitchy comments made by women about women on social media which I'm disgusted about?

I don't deny there are many evil men but some women are nasty pieces of work too.

Stop pretending that all women are perfect.

Again, I might have been lucky after being bullied by my first boyfriend that I have met a real nice man. We also have really nice friends both male and female.

I don't understand how saying most men are evil is right. Just tell the truth and say some or even a lot of men are evil. The others are just men trying to live their life as a good person.

GingerPower · 08/09/2025 20:50

TheJoyOfWriting · 08/09/2025 20:12

I read the suffragettes took care to not set bombs to harm people, only in empty places. Is that untrue?

Far from it!

It's wholly ironic that many of the women that complain about male violence idolise these individuals that were far more violent than the average man.

It's hardly a secret, people just don't do their own research nowadays. The below is from the Wikipedia page on it.

The campaign, led by key WSPU figures such as Emmeline Pankhurst, targeted infrastructure, government, churches and the general public, and saw the use of improvised explosive devices, arson, letter bombs, assassination attempts and other forms of direct action and violence. At least four people were killed in the attacks, and at least 24 were injured.

Both suffragettes and the authorities of the time described the arson and bomb attacks as a terrorist campaign.

The WSPU was not the only militant suffragette group. The Women's Freedom League attacked ballot boxes at the 1909 Bermondsey by-election with acid, blinding the returning officer in one eye and causing severe burns to the Liberal agent's neck.

On 8 December, Davison attempted to set fire to the busy post office in Fleet Street with a burning, kerosene-soaked cloth enclosed within an envelope, but the intended fire did not take hold. Six days later, Davison set fire to two pillar boxes in the City of London, before again attempting to set fire to a post office in Parliament Street, but was arrested during the act and imprisoned.

After 1911, suffragette violence was directed increasingly at commercial concerns and then at the general public. This violence was encouraged by the leadership of the WSPU. In particular, the daughter of WSPU leader Emmeline Pankhurst, Christabel Pankhurst, actively planned a self-described "reign of terror". Emmeline Pankhurst stated that the aim of the campaign was "to make England and every department of English life insecure and unsafe".

In June and July 1912, five serious incidents signified the beginning of the campaign in earnest: the homes of three anti-suffrage cabinet ministers were attacked, a powerful bomb was planted in the Home Secretary's office and the Theatre Royal, Dublin, was set aflame and bombed while an audience attended a performance. One of the most dangerous attacks committed by the suffragettes, the attack on the Theatre Royal was carried out by Mary Leigh, Gladys Evans, Lizzie Baker and Mabel Capper, who attempted to set fire to the building during a packed lunchtime matinee attended by prime minister H. H. Asquith. A canister of gunpowder was left close to the stage and petrol and lit matches were thrown into the projection booth, which contained highly combustible film reels. Earlier that day, Leigh hurled a hatchet towards Asquith, which narrowly missed, instead cutting Irish MP John Redmond on the ear.

The suffragettes invented the letter bomb, a device intended to kill or injure the recipient, and an increasing number began to be posted. On 29 January, several letter bombs were sent to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, David Lloyd George, and the prime minister Asquith, but they all exploded in post offices, post boxes or mailbags while in transit. In the following weeks, further attacks on letters and mailboxes occurred in cities such as Coventry, London, Edinburgh, Northampton, and York, and in Aberdeen, thick black ink was used to obliterate addresses in postal boxes.

On 6 February five postmen were burned, four severely, in Dundee after handling a phosphorus suffragette letter bomb addressed to Asquith. On 19 February, there was a suffragette bomb attack on Lloyd George's house, Pinfold Manor, with two bombs planted perhaps by Emily Davison. Only one exploded, seriously damaging the building but causing no injuries. The explosion occurred shortly before the arrival of workmen at the house, and the crude nature of the timer – a candle – meant the bomb had been likely to explode while the men were present. WSPU Leader Emmeline Pankhurst was arrested for planning the attack on Lloyd George's house and sentenced to three years in prison. Between February and March, railway signal wires across the country were deliberately cut, further endangering train journeys.

In May 1913, the Ashley Road Public School in Aberdeen had its roof destroyed by fire, with arson materials. Amongst the other targets selected by suffragettes were sporting events: there was a failed attempt to burn down the grounds of the All England Lawn Tennis Club at Wimbledon, while a plot to burn down the grandstand of Crystal Palace F.C.'s football ground on the eve of the 1913 FA Cup Final was also foiled.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign

Harry12345 · 08/09/2025 21:07

ThatWasJustANoise · 08/09/2025 20:48

So you haven't seen the bitchy comments made by women about women on social media which I'm disgusted about?

I don't deny there are many evil men but some women are nasty pieces of work too.

Stop pretending that all women are perfect.

Again, I might have been lucky after being bullied by my first boyfriend that I have met a real nice man. We also have really nice friends both male and female.

I don't understand how saying most men are evil is right. Just tell the truth and say some or even a lot of men are evil. The others are just men trying to live their life as a good person.

Yes I have but not the absolutely vile, sexual comments that reduce women to sexual objects

ThatWasJustANoise · 08/09/2025 21:16

Harry12345 · 08/09/2025 21:07

Yes I have but not the absolutely vile, sexual comments that reduce women to sexual objects

I just don't associate with men like that. I called my colleague a twat, I choose nice men to have in my life and I'm married to a lovely man. I also don't have bitchy friends.

My celebrity crush is Keanu Reeves.

There are plenty of nice men out there.

ThatWasJustANoise · 08/09/2025 21:21

Im sorry but if you are hanging out on OLD, you are asking to meet weirdos.

Harry12345 · 08/09/2025 21:35

ThatWasJustANoise · 08/09/2025 21:16

I just don't associate with men like that. I called my colleague a twat, I choose nice men to have in my life and I'm married to a lovely man. I also don't have bitchy friends.

My celebrity crush is Keanu Reeves.

There are plenty of nice men out there.

I don’t associate with them either but it’s hard to not come across them, especially in sm comments which I’m trying not to read now. I turned on the news one day and the 3 top headlines were p diddy, Muhammad alfied and another well known man abusing woman. The news in the past 10 years has been constant with men in high positions sexually abusing woman, I was at 14 by a chef in the cafe I worked in then again in a bar then nearly raped at 17 by two men when I was on holiday, that’s only a couple of stories I’ve plenty more but it’s certainly not men I associate with. I have loads of lovely male friends and none of them have faced the experiences me or my female friends have had with men. A lot of men agree too, so many men have issues with what their daughters are wearing as they say “ I know what men are like” , it’s not all men but far too many

Bananarama2000 · 08/09/2025 21:38

GingerPower · 08/09/2025 20:50

Far from it!

It's wholly ironic that many of the women that complain about male violence idolise these individuals that were far more violent than the average man.

It's hardly a secret, people just don't do their own research nowadays. The below is from the Wikipedia page on it.

The campaign, led by key WSPU figures such as Emmeline Pankhurst, targeted infrastructure, government, churches and the general public, and saw the use of improvised explosive devices, arson, letter bombs, assassination attempts and other forms of direct action and violence. At least four people were killed in the attacks, and at least 24 were injured.

Both suffragettes and the authorities of the time described the arson and bomb attacks as a terrorist campaign.

The WSPU was not the only militant suffragette group. The Women's Freedom League attacked ballot boxes at the 1909 Bermondsey by-election with acid, blinding the returning officer in one eye and causing severe burns to the Liberal agent's neck.

On 8 December, Davison attempted to set fire to the busy post office in Fleet Street with a burning, kerosene-soaked cloth enclosed within an envelope, but the intended fire did not take hold. Six days later, Davison set fire to two pillar boxes in the City of London, before again attempting to set fire to a post office in Parliament Street, but was arrested during the act and imprisoned.

After 1911, suffragette violence was directed increasingly at commercial concerns and then at the general public. This violence was encouraged by the leadership of the WSPU. In particular, the daughter of WSPU leader Emmeline Pankhurst, Christabel Pankhurst, actively planned a self-described "reign of terror". Emmeline Pankhurst stated that the aim of the campaign was "to make England and every department of English life insecure and unsafe".

In June and July 1912, five serious incidents signified the beginning of the campaign in earnest: the homes of three anti-suffrage cabinet ministers were attacked, a powerful bomb was planted in the Home Secretary's office and the Theatre Royal, Dublin, was set aflame and bombed while an audience attended a performance. One of the most dangerous attacks committed by the suffragettes, the attack on the Theatre Royal was carried out by Mary Leigh, Gladys Evans, Lizzie Baker and Mabel Capper, who attempted to set fire to the building during a packed lunchtime matinee attended by prime minister H. H. Asquith. A canister of gunpowder was left close to the stage and petrol and lit matches were thrown into the projection booth, which contained highly combustible film reels. Earlier that day, Leigh hurled a hatchet towards Asquith, which narrowly missed, instead cutting Irish MP John Redmond on the ear.

The suffragettes invented the letter bomb, a device intended to kill or injure the recipient, and an increasing number began to be posted. On 29 January, several letter bombs were sent to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, David Lloyd George, and the prime minister Asquith, but they all exploded in post offices, post boxes or mailbags while in transit. In the following weeks, further attacks on letters and mailboxes occurred in cities such as Coventry, London, Edinburgh, Northampton, and York, and in Aberdeen, thick black ink was used to obliterate addresses in postal boxes.

On 6 February five postmen were burned, four severely, in Dundee after handling a phosphorus suffragette letter bomb addressed to Asquith. On 19 February, there was a suffragette bomb attack on Lloyd George's house, Pinfold Manor, with two bombs planted perhaps by Emily Davison. Only one exploded, seriously damaging the building but causing no injuries. The explosion occurred shortly before the arrival of workmen at the house, and the crude nature of the timer – a candle – meant the bomb had been likely to explode while the men were present. WSPU Leader Emmeline Pankhurst was arrested for planning the attack on Lloyd George's house and sentenced to three years in prison. Between February and March, railway signal wires across the country were deliberately cut, further endangering train journeys.

In May 1913, the Ashley Road Public School in Aberdeen had its roof destroyed by fire, with arson materials. Amongst the other targets selected by suffragettes were sporting events: there was a failed attempt to burn down the grounds of the All England Lawn Tennis Club at Wimbledon, while a plot to burn down the grandstand of Crystal Palace F.C.'s football ground on the eve of the 1913 FA Cup Final was also foiled.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign

Wow I had no idea. Thank you for sharing that

TheJoyOfWriting · 08/09/2025 21:39

ThatWasJustANoise · 08/09/2025 21:16

I just don't associate with men like that. I called my colleague a twat, I choose nice men to have in my life and I'm married to a lovely man. I also don't have bitchy friends.

My celebrity crush is Keanu Reeves.

There are plenty of nice men out there.

I love Keanu Reeves too. He and River Phoenix I know a lot about (90s cinema) & are always my top examples of genuinely nice well-known men (obvs well known people in general tend to be a bit worse)
One of my gay friends likes to believe the rumours he is gay. I don't think that. Maybe bi, but I think the evidence points (and this is a good thing) that he's a man who's attracted to women and still able to be respectful. And by all accounts nice in general.

GingerPower · 08/09/2025 21:40

I also can't believe how many times I've been called a bigot. And even a racist. It's something I don't understand. I just don't really believe that we can be bigoted towards an oppressor. Or racist about white people. It just doesn't sound right to me.

The Oxford definition of racism is 'the belief that some races are superior to others and the resulting prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race'.

Most dictionaries just describe it as 'prejudice by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group'.

There's no implied hierarchy or special qualifiers to entry. It's literally discrimination on the basis of ethnicity or race. This idea that 'white people can't experience racism' is just a load of revisionist bollocks that's arisen amongst certain pseudo woke ideologies in the past few years alongside other bonkers claims like 'biological sex isn't real'.

Typically, it's accompanied by an overly simplistic view that posits white as privileged and non-white as oppressed. Like most class analysis this doesn't really work in reality. Take Rotherham as an example. The white working class girls from the care system had no power over the middle aged Pakistani men abusing them.

One man from the Newcastle gang said "All white women are only good for one thing — for men like me to fuck and use like trash.” This is an example of racism.

Also, look at the debauchery that happens in the middle east. You may have heard of 'porta potty parties'. It's when rich Arab men pay white western sex workers (often Eastern European) to fly out and debase themselves for money. The nickname is a reference to how the men literally urinate and defecate over these women - use them as porta potties. Apparently, it's preferred that the woman has an Instagram presence. I'm guessing that this just adds to the thrill of humiliating a western women.

I'm not really sure white privilege exists in this case when we're taking about mega rich Arabs and impoverished Eastern European models/sex workers. There was a story recently about a European girl that allegedly flew out to one of these parties. Her name sounded Russian/Ukrainian.

She was found by the side of the road with broken limbs, a broken spine, and a cut on her head consistent with somebody having tried to scalp her. The authorities said she never made it to the party and had instead wondered into a building site by accident and fallen from height. Like how the fuck does that happen? She couldn't speak nor recognise her family at first. She's now in a wheelchair.

The whole situation seems rather unclear and it's been suggested that she was paid off, because she's claimed that no Arabs were involved, which seems a very specific thing to want to clarify. And the Dubai authorities funded her medical treatment at an immense cost.

Either way, regardless of the above case there are loads or other examples of this stuff going on. It's ludicrous to say that white people can't experience racism because there are places where white people aren't the demographic with the most power and privilege.

TheJoyOfWriting · 08/09/2025 21:41

Bananarama2000 · 08/09/2025 21:38

Wow I had no idea. Thank you for sharing that

I knew all that apart from the Theatre bombs. Horrified to hear human life was endangered. Fern Riddell is v good on this in her book on Kitty Marion, Death In Ten Minutes. Also The Suffragette Bombers boom.

I respect the suffragettes who didn't do that, and the suffragists

GingerPower · 08/09/2025 21:46

And you might want to check the top 10 countries involved in modern slavery, OP. Last time I checked Russia was the only majority white country on the list and was in 10th place. So arguably not a single western country in the top 10.

And FYI there are over 3x the number of slaves in the world today than were trafficked over the entire 300-400 years of the transatlantic slave trade!

TheJoyOfWriting · 08/09/2025 21:47

Obvs white people can experience racism when they are in an environment where they are less powerful. Institutional racism that is. Racism per se can be experienced anywhere whatever the power balance is.

Good Lord, people should boycott Dubai for that alone, thanks for posting that. A long way from the Arabian Nights....!🤢😡

GingerPower · 08/09/2025 21:52

GingerPower · 08/09/2025 21:40

I also can't believe how many times I've been called a bigot. And even a racist. It's something I don't understand. I just don't really believe that we can be bigoted towards an oppressor. Or racist about white people. It just doesn't sound right to me.

The Oxford definition of racism is 'the belief that some races are superior to others and the resulting prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race'.

Most dictionaries just describe it as 'prejudice by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group'.

There's no implied hierarchy or special qualifiers to entry. It's literally discrimination on the basis of ethnicity or race. This idea that 'white people can't experience racism' is just a load of revisionist bollocks that's arisen amongst certain pseudo woke ideologies in the past few years alongside other bonkers claims like 'biological sex isn't real'.

Typically, it's accompanied by an overly simplistic view that posits white as privileged and non-white as oppressed. Like most class analysis this doesn't really work in reality. Take Rotherham as an example. The white working class girls from the care system had no power over the middle aged Pakistani men abusing them.

One man from the Newcastle gang said "All white women are only good for one thing — for men like me to fuck and use like trash.” This is an example of racism.

Also, look at the debauchery that happens in the middle east. You may have heard of 'porta potty parties'. It's when rich Arab men pay white western sex workers (often Eastern European) to fly out and debase themselves for money. The nickname is a reference to how the men literally urinate and defecate over these women - use them as porta potties. Apparently, it's preferred that the woman has an Instagram presence. I'm guessing that this just adds to the thrill of humiliating a western women.

I'm not really sure white privilege exists in this case when we're taking about mega rich Arabs and impoverished Eastern European models/sex workers. There was a story recently about a European girl that allegedly flew out to one of these parties. Her name sounded Russian/Ukrainian.

She was found by the side of the road with broken limbs, a broken spine, and a cut on her head consistent with somebody having tried to scalp her. The authorities said she never made it to the party and had instead wondered into a building site by accident and fallen from height. Like how the fuck does that happen? She couldn't speak nor recognise her family at first. She's now in a wheelchair.

The whole situation seems rather unclear and it's been suggested that she was paid off, because she's claimed that no Arabs were involved, which seems a very specific thing to want to clarify. And the Dubai authorities funded her medical treatment at an immense cost.

Either way, regardless of the above case there are loads or other examples of this stuff going on. It's ludicrous to say that white people can't experience racism because there are places where white people aren't the demographic with the most power and privilege.

It's not very clear here due to my use of italics, but the first paragraph is the quote I'm replying to.

GingerPower · 08/09/2025 21:56

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fightbackorriseabove · 08/09/2025 22:00

GingerPower · 08/09/2025 21:40

I also can't believe how many times I've been called a bigot. And even a racist. It's something I don't understand. I just don't really believe that we can be bigoted towards an oppressor. Or racist about white people. It just doesn't sound right to me.

The Oxford definition of racism is 'the belief that some races are superior to others and the resulting prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race'.

Most dictionaries just describe it as 'prejudice by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group'.

There's no implied hierarchy or special qualifiers to entry. It's literally discrimination on the basis of ethnicity or race. This idea that 'white people can't experience racism' is just a load of revisionist bollocks that's arisen amongst certain pseudo woke ideologies in the past few years alongside other bonkers claims like 'biological sex isn't real'.

Typically, it's accompanied by an overly simplistic view that posits white as privileged and non-white as oppressed. Like most class analysis this doesn't really work in reality. Take Rotherham as an example. The white working class girls from the care system had no power over the middle aged Pakistani men abusing them.

One man from the Newcastle gang said "All white women are only good for one thing — for men like me to fuck and use like trash.” This is an example of racism.

Also, look at the debauchery that happens in the middle east. You may have heard of 'porta potty parties'. It's when rich Arab men pay white western sex workers (often Eastern European) to fly out and debase themselves for money. The nickname is a reference to how the men literally urinate and defecate over these women - use them as porta potties. Apparently, it's preferred that the woman has an Instagram presence. I'm guessing that this just adds to the thrill of humiliating a western women.

I'm not really sure white privilege exists in this case when we're taking about mega rich Arabs and impoverished Eastern European models/sex workers. There was a story recently about a European girl that allegedly flew out to one of these parties. Her name sounded Russian/Ukrainian.

She was found by the side of the road with broken limbs, a broken spine, and a cut on her head consistent with somebody having tried to scalp her. The authorities said she never made it to the party and had instead wondered into a building site by accident and fallen from height. Like how the fuck does that happen? She couldn't speak nor recognise her family at first. She's now in a wheelchair.

The whole situation seems rather unclear and it's been suggested that she was paid off, because she's claimed that no Arabs were involved, which seems a very specific thing to want to clarify. And the Dubai authorities funded her medical treatment at an immense cost.

Either way, regardless of the above case there are loads or other examples of this stuff going on. It's ludicrous to say that white people can't experience racism because there are places where white people aren't the demographic with the most power and privilege.

I can see your point. But, I still think what you're describing is a man problem rather than a race problem. It's like Andrew Tate and his kind having sex with what he calls "cheap" women, but only marrying virgins. The men in your scenarios see European women or women on council estates to be the "slags". Probably because the women in their communities are "off-limits". Much like in the Christian comunities in America. Men take their daughters to those weird "wait-for-marriage" balls while getting up to all sorts of nasty stuff when nobody's looking. I think cultrally, maybe men abuse women in different ways. We've seen Pakistani men gang raping. It's happened. It's happening. It's disgusting on every level. But, in my family, my mother's uncle had sex with his daughter and granddaughter. A white man. We can't say that's any less disgusting. It's all a problem with men. They're just doing it in different ways. Pakistani men do not offend more per capita in the UK. Most sex crimes in the UK are comitted by individual, white men.

I think I was called racist somewhere on this thread because I said something about white people painting roundabouts in the UK. I said this as a white person from the UK. But, I meant that's what they call themselves. I'm sure there are people of different ethnic origins painting crosses on roundabouts, but to my mind, they're all thugs.

I believe that biological sex is real and that people can't change sex, by the way.

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fightbackorriseabove · 08/09/2025 22:08

GingerPower · 08/09/2025 21:46

And you might want to check the top 10 countries involved in modern slavery, OP. Last time I checked Russia was the only majority white country on the list and was in 10th place. So arguably not a single western country in the top 10.

And FYI there are over 3x the number of slaves in the world today than were trafficked over the entire 300-400 years of the transatlantic slave trade!

Which sex are most of the perpetrators of slavery? And which sex are most of the slaves? Which sex profits from the vast majority of modern slavery worldwide?

My thread is initially about men. And most of them being filthy losers. It doesn't really matter what race they are. I'm talking about men. All races combined.

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TheJoyOfWriting · 08/09/2025 22:16

fightbackorriseabove · 08/09/2025 22:00

I can see your point. But, I still think what you're describing is a man problem rather than a race problem. It's like Andrew Tate and his kind having sex with what he calls "cheap" women, but only marrying virgins. The men in your scenarios see European women or women on council estates to be the "slags". Probably because the women in their communities are "off-limits". Much like in the Christian comunities in America. Men take their daughters to those weird "wait-for-marriage" balls while getting up to all sorts of nasty stuff when nobody's looking. I think cultrally, maybe men abuse women in different ways. We've seen Pakistani men gang raping. It's happened. It's happening. It's disgusting on every level. But, in my family, my mother's uncle had sex with his daughter and granddaughter. A white man. We can't say that's any less disgusting. It's all a problem with men. They're just doing it in different ways. Pakistani men do not offend more per capita in the UK. Most sex crimes in the UK are comitted by individual, white men.

I think I was called racist somewhere on this thread because I said something about white people painting roundabouts in the UK. I said this as a white person from the UK. But, I meant that's what they call themselves. I'm sure there are people of different ethnic origins painting crosses on roundabouts, but to my mind, they're all thugs.

I believe that biological sex is real and that people can't change sex, by the way.

Yeah, it should also be noted that a lot of Pakistani girls suffer sexual abuse. Matthew Syed, himself half-Pakistani, has found high prevalence of father-daughter and sibling incest in the British Pakistani Community.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/silence-on-cousin-marriage-is-the-unspeakable-face-of-liberalism-870z5rpmf&ved=2ahUKEwjr6qKYicqPAxVIg_0HHekVHp8QFnoECB0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0s7XzPXHtwG2g1mVLWMjjJ

The grooming gangs also targeted Asian girls, including Sikh, it seems they may have been targeting non Muslims and unprotected girls more than white girls per se though anti-white racial attitude were definitely a factor.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.theguardian.com/society/2013/sep/10/abuse-asian-girls-missed-white-victims&ved=2ahUKEwi5qYGsisqPAxVSg_0HHcmHHPMQFnoECCgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0NfTi4HLKTvgSuanSf3bbM

https://www.google.com/url?opi=89978449&rct=j&sa=t&source=web&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetimes.com%2Fcomment%2Fcolumnists%2Farticle%2Fsilence-on-cousin-marriage-is-the-unspeakable-face-of-liberalism-870z5rpmf&usg=AOvVaw0s7XzPXHtwG2g1mVLWMjjJ&ved=2ahUKEwjr6qKYicqPAxVIg_0HHekVHp8QFnoECB0QAQ

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I'm certain it was the Dubaians, though there could well have been Russians involved too.

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