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To not want to cook for my sister and nephew when she comes over?

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Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 06/09/2025 08:12

My sister lives in Australia with my nephew, soon to be 12.
She's coming over for a visit next month and obviously we spend as much time as possible with her while she's here.
Last time she came was Easter last year and I had everyone round my house for an Easter roast.
My mum is asking me to get everyone at mine together again for a roast as I have the biggest house and my roasts are "amazing" (they are, even if I do say so myself 😜) and she's told my sister that she's sure I will do this and sister is now looking forward to a "proper British roast". Great.

Last time she was here, she came into my kitchen while I was cooking, opened the oven while my YORKSHIRES were in there (!!!!) and put in a cheese and tomato pizza. She then gave this to her son because "he won't eat roasts".
This pizza was not discussed with me, she didn't ask if she could shove it in my oven and made no attempt to get nephew to join in and eat what the rest of us were eating. I then had to try and get my kids to eat their vegetables while their cousin is sat two feet away, chowing down on pizza.

I don't want pizzagate happening again, and I don't want nephew eating something my kids would rather be eating right in front if them (they like roasts, but it's PIZZA) but sister will insist its necessary because nephew is autistic.

I have suggested that he eat before he comes but sister says she doesn't want him excluded (neither do I)

I've suggested we all just have pizza but sister wants her "proper British roast" and I love cooking for everyone and giving my family food cooked with love.

What to do?

OP posts:
DangerousAlchemy · 06/09/2025 12:23

Hmmmm. Cook a roast but also cook a pizza and let your kids have roast AND pizza if they want 🤷‍♀️ no big deal. Let your nephew eat what he likes in a strange house far from home and outside his comfort zone. I imagine you don't see them very often so is it really that big a deal? Worth spoiling Easter/Christmas Day over?

Chobby · 06/09/2025 12:23

FormidableMizzP · 06/09/2025 12:22

Interesting how people are saying it's ONE meal so let the kids have pizza. It is the main get together for a distanced family. So since it's just ONE meal then why can't the kids just eat it like everyone else? If the roast is so amazing they would. The kids could have pizza later if need be.

Am so tired of hearing parents impose things on kids when their taste buds are developing all the time. (That nephew may not have liked a roast before because his Mum makes a bad one?). Heard it so much when mine were younger but at class parties or play dates, those kids happily ate the very things the parents said they would not 😂

It's hard enough juggling hot oven space for a roast without adding extras. It was very rude to open the oven and add a pizza without checking first, because the pizza could've been put in the oven while the roast was being dished up - they take like 8minutes!

Are your kids autistic?

DangerousAlchemy · 06/09/2025 12:26

I have memories of Christmas meals around my PIL house. My Husbands auntie (around mid 60s) eating spaghetti hoops as she doesn't like vegetables but my BIL/his girlfriend getting cross with my nephew & making him cry as they were nagging so much about him eating his broccoli. Honestly it's a lovely family day together. Let people eat what they prefer.

Growlybear83 · 06/09/2025 12:26

I think you’re being ridiculous. What is the problem with opening the oven door when you’re cooking Yorkshire puddings? And what was wrong with your sister putting a pizza in your oven? If she knows her child won’t eat a roast, surely it was better for her to have brought something that she knew he would eat? Not everyone loves roast dinners - there are very few things I loathe more than roast meat (apart from turkey and chicken) and potatoes and I don’t think I could eat a roast dinner if my life depended on it. It’s not as if your sister was asking you to make a separate meal for your nephew.

Bloozie · 06/09/2025 12:26

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 06/09/2025 12:22

Yeah, I think "my sister brings her airfryer" and all of the obvious pre-planning and awareness in your situation makes it very different from mine.

That's true. But now you know, you can work around it, rather than not want to cook for them because your sister's kid has a diagnosed condition that means they are can't eat 'seasonally'. Which I agree is an utter joy, but fixating on it is a bit too trad wife for me.

InfoSecInTheCity · 06/09/2025 12:26

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 06/09/2025 12:22

Yeah, I think "my sister brings her airfryer" and all of the obvious pre-planning and awareness in your situation makes it very different from mine.

except this this you do know about it in advance and have plenty of time to come to terms with it.

Id cook my nephew a pizza alongside the roast, it’s just not a big deal.

WittyTaupeFox · 06/09/2025 12:27

It sounds like there are some big emotions here for you linked to something so minor as catering for your nephews eating.

Kindly can you explore why you are resentful of your sister - maybe for living on the other side of the world and visiting you when you are perceiving yourself to have to do all the work. Her son shouldn’t take the brunt of your adult emotion.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 06/09/2025 12:28

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable!

I’d say “I’m happy to do pizza for everyone so that we’re all having the same, but if she wants a proper roast one day I’m happy to meet up at x pub/ restaurant to have one - let’s all pay for ourselves to keep it simple”

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 06/09/2025 12:30

InfoSecInTheCity · 06/09/2025 12:26

except this this you do know about it in advance and have plenty of time to come to terms with it.

Id cook my nephew a pizza alongside the roast, it’s just not a big deal.

A roast is tricky re timing everything to come at the same time though.

Shoving in a pizza to be ready at the same time as everything else would be too much for me. And having all the kids eat pizza wouldn’t work as pizzas take up a lot of oven space.

Octoberfest · 06/09/2025 12:30

I understand your frustration. One Christmas we had to endure my not-so-young nephew being hand fed chocolate and crisps (at the table, as a main course) by his parents while my children looked on jealously, while eating their Christmas roast. But if parents are making these choices for their children, I don't think there's much we can do about it.

On a separate note, I do wonder how children who are fussy about food are dealt with in France, where even very young children are expected to eat the same food as adults at family meals.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 06/09/2025 12:31

DangerousAlchemy · 06/09/2025 12:26

I have memories of Christmas meals around my PIL house. My Husbands auntie (around mid 60s) eating spaghetti hoops as she doesn't like vegetables but my BIL/his girlfriend getting cross with my nephew & making him cry as they were nagging so much about him eating his broccoli. Honestly it's a lovely family day together. Let people eat what they prefer.

Yeah they should never be making their kid cry on Christmas Day over broccoli

LoveSandbanks · 06/09/2025 12:33

i have an autistic son. He quite likes a roast dinner but on Christmas Day I make him macaroni cheese. That’s his favourite meal and having that on Christmas Day makes him feel that he’s also been considered on Christmas Day.

Food for autistic people is a Big Deal. It’s a big family dinner where everyone is eating something they love. It’s a fucking pizza that just needs shoving in the oven, not even extra work. Trust me, him having a pizza means that he’s been accommodated and you can spend more time with your sister without him having a meltdown. Show your sister that you love and accept your nephew and ask her which pizza you should buy for your him.

Her life (and his) is difficult enough without family visits being made harder.

DancingNotDrowning · 06/09/2025 12:34

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 06/09/2025 10:50

This is nonsense.

OP did not get angry with her sister for meeting her nephew's needs. OP got angry with her sister for barging into her kitchen while she was busy cooking a lot of food for a lot of people, and helped herself to her oven without prior arrangement, disrupting the cooking process that she had spent hours on, and probably extra hours just planning.
Sister could have just spoken to OP and OP would have been able to factor in something as simple as a pizza.

Someone else suggested that food is probably the OP's love language and I think that sounds spot on. It's important to her that everything is perfect. Just like when you throw a party for someone you love, or spend time picking the perfect Christmas present.

There's nothing here suggesting narcissism whatsoever.

Oh so much drama around putting a bloody pizza in the oven - “disrupting the cooking process”, “barging into the kitchen” not “seeking prior agreement” Grin

and then to pretend it’s all about cooking with love, it’s the ultimate in performance hosting, nothing about ensuring your guests are happy and enjoy the food, all about the veneer of perfection whilst asking your DN to eat advance because you don’t want to disrupt your grand show.

noworklifebalance · 06/09/2025 12:34

Octoberfest · 06/09/2025 12:30

I understand your frustration. One Christmas we had to endure my not-so-young nephew being hand fed chocolate and crisps (at the table, as a main course) by his parents while my children looked on jealously, while eating their Christmas roast. But if parents are making these choices for their children, I don't think there's much we can do about it.

On a separate note, I do wonder how children who are fussy about food are dealt with in France, where even very young children are expected to eat the same food as adults at family meals.

The nephew is not fussy, he is autistic.

CremeBruhlee · 06/09/2025 12:36

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 06/09/2025 12:20

Thank you, and we agree

Eating seasonably is an absolute joy. There's nothing nicer than looking forward to a lovely apple and blackberry crumble in early autumn, a mince pie at Christmas, strawberries and cream in the summer, roast lamb in the spring etc.

This "eat what you want when you want" thing takes all of the joy out of looking forward to something and it's so bad for the environment, having everything imported all the time just to satisfy people's food whims. I say "urgh" to that.

And now I am off to make a crumble!! :) my kids are helping and we will have a very joyful time :) they've been looking forward to it helped pick the blackberries!

Wonderful, so glad you and your NT kids are living the dream life……… read the room…. you clearly want a pat on the back for your kids who help you bake and eat veg. So well done on that.

Mine do too (as if it matters) but your sisters child has a disability….. it’s not the same thing.

Living the dream life in my world is about being inclusive, welcoming and checking your privilege. Not being some Meghan Markle clone with your blackberry crumble. But you know, well done you!

Brianthepug · 06/09/2025 12:36

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 06/09/2025 12:08

Don't do it then.

I wanted to have it in the oven by 5am so it could come out at 12 so I could have everything else ready by lunchtime. It slow-cooks for 7 hours on a low heat, so I couldn't put other things in at the same time.

I went back to bed until 8am 😆

Don't you have an oven timer? Set it to come on at 4am.

Pices · 06/09/2025 12:39

People are reacting because an autistic child will be singled out and excluded over and over in his life. Asking him to eat ahead of time and then watch his family eat because his own aunt won’t accommodate him is going to get peoples backs up. Be grateful if you haven’t had to watch your child struggle to be included at every single turn. Have a look at the rates of suicide for autistic men. I’m not being dramatic. Their mental health is a HUGE problem. The idea of this child sitting at his own family’s table excluded is heartbreaking. Sorry but the OP isn’t remotely acting like a decent human here.

SouthLondonMum22 · 06/09/2025 12:40

FormidableMizzP · 06/09/2025 12:22

Interesting how people are saying it's ONE meal so let the kids have pizza. It is the main get together for a distanced family. So since it's just ONE meal then why can't the kids just eat it like everyone else? If the roast is so amazing they would. The kids could have pizza later if need be.

Am so tired of hearing parents impose things on kids when their taste buds are developing all the time. (That nephew may not have liked a roast before because his Mum makes a bad one?). Heard it so much when mine were younger but at class parties or play dates, those kids happily ate the very things the parents said they would not 😂

It's hard enough juggling hot oven space for a roast without adding extras. It was very rude to open the oven and add a pizza without checking first, because the pizza could've been put in the oven while the roast was being dished up - they take like 8minutes!

The difference is OP's nephew is autistic. His food needs are due to his disability and have nothing to do with how good or badly something is cooked.

MixedFeelingsNoFeelings · 06/09/2025 12:42

My thoughts are -

It was thoughtless of your sister to put something in the oven you were using without checking first, autistic son or not. A little awareness and mild contrition from her would have helped. It would also have given you the chance to show that you understood about DS, and maybe opened up a helpful conversation around compromises you could both make, to make (no doubt much-anticipated) visits and family relationships a bit less fraught. It doesn't do anyone any good to let these things fester.

Also, I totally understand that if cooking is your 'love language' (ha, I've just seen someone upthread use that term too!) then lavishing all this hard work on a great meal for the adults while giving your kids pizza just isn't a solution for you. You've tried to compromise by suggesting you all have pizza, but your sister and mum insist on having your "proper British roast" - which to me is unreasonable.

As a side note, I have a family member with skills which are very useful to friends and family. She's brilliant at what she does precisely because, like you, she's a perfectionist. But you can't have it both ways. If you want her services, you have to let her do it her way and not do it cheaper or quicker or whatever, just because you think it's ok. That's the deal.

Back to my point, which is that I think food here is just the flashpoint. The bigger issue is communication. You seem to have got yourself in roles. You're the brilliant cook who's a bit of an anxious perfectionist, and therefore exploitable. Your sister is the understandably stressed mum whose wishes take precedence because of DS's needs. However, she and mum seem to be leaning a bit too heavily into that to get what they want, without appreciating the impact on you. Even if it is 'just' a roast, it takes it out of you to do it to the standard you (and clearly they!) want.

For your part, you might relax your rules and principles a bit for the sake of family harmony.

I think an honest convo along the lines of 'how can we make mealtimes work for everyone' will give you all the chance to air some issues and assumptions.

KeepCalmAndCarryOnScrolling · 06/09/2025 12:42

Make the roast
Order the kids Dominos

Depending on your home layout, they have a party table just for them or watch a movie with their pizza, then join you at main table for dessert

It is not that hard OP

katepilar · 06/09/2025 12:45

I guess you would have totally different feeling about the situation if your sister handled the situation at Easter properly.
You dont go into someone's kitchen and use their oven without asking. More over you dont do that if something is already cooking in that oven. Let alone something delicate.
Also, your sister doesnt seem to be very polite about wanting a roast or in talking to you in general.

Mydadsbirthday · 06/09/2025 12:48

Ugh you sound awful, do you actually like your family? Seriously what's the big deal?

bewilderedhedgehog · 06/09/2025 12:49

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 06/09/2025 12:12

I'll PM it to you :)

Thank you so much!

Bringmeahigherlove · 06/09/2025 12:49

Imagine caring about this kind of thing! How do some people cope with actual stressors in life???

Bringmeahigherlove · 06/09/2025 12:50

katepilar · 06/09/2025 12:45

I guess you would have totally different feeling about the situation if your sister handled the situation at Easter properly.
You dont go into someone's kitchen and use their oven without asking. More over you dont do that if something is already cooking in that oven. Let alone something delicate.
Also, your sister doesnt seem to be very polite about wanting a roast or in talking to you in general.

They’re siblings! They should have a decent enough relationship to be able to open an oven without causing emotional trauma.