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To not want to cook for my sister and nephew when she comes over?

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Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 06/09/2025 08:12

My sister lives in Australia with my nephew, soon to be 12.
She's coming over for a visit next month and obviously we spend as much time as possible with her while she's here.
Last time she came was Easter last year and I had everyone round my house for an Easter roast.
My mum is asking me to get everyone at mine together again for a roast as I have the biggest house and my roasts are "amazing" (they are, even if I do say so myself 😜) and she's told my sister that she's sure I will do this and sister is now looking forward to a "proper British roast". Great.

Last time she was here, she came into my kitchen while I was cooking, opened the oven while my YORKSHIRES were in there (!!!!) and put in a cheese and tomato pizza. She then gave this to her son because "he won't eat roasts".
This pizza was not discussed with me, she didn't ask if she could shove it in my oven and made no attempt to get nephew to join in and eat what the rest of us were eating. I then had to try and get my kids to eat their vegetables while their cousin is sat two feet away, chowing down on pizza.

I don't want pizzagate happening again, and I don't want nephew eating something my kids would rather be eating right in front if them (they like roasts, but it's PIZZA) but sister will insist its necessary because nephew is autistic.

I have suggested that he eat before he comes but sister says she doesn't want him excluded (neither do I)

I've suggested we all just have pizza but sister wants her "proper British roast" and I love cooking for everyone and giving my family food cooked with love.

What to do?

OP posts:
popcornandpotatoes · 06/09/2025 11:12

whitedoorsgalore · 06/09/2025 10:32

I knew as soon as I saw this thread that it’d turn into a pile on. MN can be such a mean place. Ignore them OP!

Firstly, sounds like food is your ‘love language’. You put all the love into the food to let people know you care about them. And then along comes someone, messes with the yorkies and drops a frozen pizza in the mix. I understand the gin swigging!

You just have to give your sister and nephew a ‘free pass’ on account of nephew’s dietary requirements. And as others have suggested, you could let all the kids have a pizza party together - special pizza for the nephew and order in for the others. Stick them all in another room with some gaming or whatever and let the adults enjoy their grown up roast. These family celebrations obviously don’t happen often so just let everyone chill in their own way.

For goodness sake. Food isn't a love language if everyone is forced to eat it whether they want to or not! Especially an autistic child.

Ally886 · 06/09/2025 11:13

Everyone seems to be focusing on the pizza or no pizza point. I really don't think that's OPs question.

Her concern is her sisters ignorance of shoving a pizza in the oven without running past her host, compromising the roast. I'd have no problem with accommodating for my autistic nephew but id have a huge issue with someone else interfering in my kitchen. All she had to say is "Will won't eat a roast so can you stick this pizza in when convenient".

Don't get me started on the Yorkshires. I accidentally checked the meat when the Yorkies were in when I was young and got a slotted spoon round the face from my Nan

pictoosh · 06/09/2025 11:13

And whoever suggested doing pizza for the kids and your roast for the adults was spot on.
Why dig your heels in?

noworklifebalance · 06/09/2025 11:14

Dannydevitoiloveyourart · 06/09/2025 10:34

You can be a good sister and still be rigid in thinking.

I have a sister like OP so maybe that's why I'm so sympathetic to OP and shocked at the pile on. My sister can be inflexible, she does like everything perfect, she will cook puddings from scratch and try not to wince at my store bought options, and she is very organised - basically the opposite of me!

But for all the rigidity, she is the glue of our family. The one that ensures we still celebrate life and each other even when illness, bereavement, work stress makes it all seem impossible. She's the first to turn up and get her knees and hands dirty in a crisis, and the last to go home after someone's had a bad day. She's a great sister, and her inflexibility and rigid values are all part of that.

I can see a lot of my sister in OP and I think she's trying her best and has started this thread because she wants to make sure it's perfect for her sister, nephew and everyone else. Cut her some slack.

Imagine how difficult it must be for her sister with an autistic child who have travelled from Australia. The child may have fixed preferences or needs for many things and the pizza may just be one of them.
As an adult, presumably without SEN, I would expect OP to see beyond her Yorkshire puddings in that one instance - take a deep breath, move on and order pizzas next time for the children.
Anyway, I hope OP’s non-dilemma has been solved by the helpful suggestions from PPs.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 06/09/2025 11:15

DarkForces · 06/09/2025 08:20

You need to invest in Aunt Bessie's to avoid this problem (runs and hides 😂)

Edited

Sacrilege!

I do have a double oven which helps . Roast potatoes cook while the Yorkshire Pudding tins heat up the the potatoes go in the air-fryer for the last few cispy up minutes .

NOBODY touches the oven when the Yorkies are in.
Our male cat gazes through the glass in awe (though I think he's just admiring his reflection)

Until I remove them with a Bart Simpson "Prepare To Be Dazzled" flourish .

She (your Sis) is a savage , but yeah , give the DC pizza : Easy Life Win/Win

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 06/09/2025 11:15

Sooz817 · 06/09/2025 11:10

My autistic daughter will eat a roast (though it’s one of only 3 meals she will eat) but my autistic niece won’t. When we hosted Christmas I put chicken dippers and potato waffles into the oven 15 mins before serving up the rest of the food because honestly, a good host caters for dietary needs. Autistic people struggle massively with food textures and safe foods. It’s not an excuse, it’s a fact. I’m sure your sister wishes he would sit and eat the roast (the same as I wish my autistic daughter would eat bolognese, chilli, lasagne, Christ even a burger or sausage!) but he won’t. He will sit there and look at the meal, possibly get upset over it and certainly not eat it. The pizza for him solves the eating and disruption issue. You could be understanding of this and either: serve pizza for ALL the kids and a roast for the adults OR you could use this as a teaching moment for your children and privately in advance explain about different neurotypes and why some people might require accommodations.

You don’t appear particularly accommodating or understanding from the way you have worded your post. It’s not like you see them very often either.

On a related note, a recent study showed that parents of autistic children show the same stress levels as combat soldiers. Your sister’s life is likely full of all kinds of struggles that you aren’t privy to and for her food is not the hill to die on with him, it does not harm to support her with that.

This is all very well but OP's problem isn't accommodating her nephew's needs, it's the sister doing something inconsiderate and just helping herself to OP's busy kitchen which is stressful for the OP.

She now wants to find a solution to the issue that works for everyone including nephew, and including her own DC and has said thank you for the suggestions.

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 06/09/2025 11:18

popcornandpotatoes · 06/09/2025 11:12

For goodness sake. Food isn't a love language if everyone is forced to eat it whether they want to or not! Especially an autistic child.

No one is forcing the autistic child to eat the roast.

Notonthestairs · 06/09/2025 11:19

Fucks sakes she doesn’t need a solution to her sister putting the pizza in.
She tells her sister she will put the pizza in the oven at the appropriate time. The sister is only involved when the pizza comes out.

Unless the Op is someone who likes to stew on the same non problem endlessly.

Crunchymum · 06/09/2025 11:19

Kids have pizza, adults have the roast and nobody but you are allowed to open the oven door @Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar

Sorted!!

Subsequent posts have sort of clarified the main issue was with the physical act of ruining your Yorkshire puddings by opening the oven, this particular situation can easily be avoided?

Nobody needs to get up at 4am to put the lamb on. That's insane!!

Doggymummar · 06/09/2025 11:19

ExtraOnions · 06/09/2025 09:52

A roast dinner isn’t even that hard …pre-prep and a decent plan .

Exactly, even Christmas dinner you work out the timings, prepare the night before and use timers to make sure everything is ready together. I trained as a chef, but even my other half can do it and he really isn't a chef, but he is autistic and can follow instructions.

Gettingbysomehow · 06/09/2025 11:20

Think yourself lucky I have to cook for assorted gluten free, dairy free, vegan, vegetarian, people who hate peas and allergies. It's a literal minefield.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 06/09/2025 11:20

You could buy a separate pizza oven and cook the pizza in that

BluePearOntheRocks · 06/09/2025 11:21

Ally886 · 06/09/2025 11:13

Everyone seems to be focusing on the pizza or no pizza point. I really don't think that's OPs question.

Her concern is her sisters ignorance of shoving a pizza in the oven without running past her host, compromising the roast. I'd have no problem with accommodating for my autistic nephew but id have a huge issue with someone else interfering in my kitchen. All she had to say is "Will won't eat a roast so can you stick this pizza in when convenient".

Don't get me started on the Yorkshires. I accidentally checked the meat when the Yorkies were in when I was young and got a slotted spoon round the face from my Nan

it's her sister, she should just tell her, how hard can it be?

And no, it's not "common knowledge" that you don't open an oven, many people don't know or don't care in their own home.

If the OP is feeling so strongly and making such a huge deal about a roast and being defined by her cooking, bet the family is requesting one just to keep her happy.

BluePearOntheRocks · 06/09/2025 11:22

Notonthestairs · 06/09/2025 11:19

Fucks sakes she doesn’t need a solution to her sister putting the pizza in.
She tells her sister she will put the pizza in the oven at the appropriate time. The sister is only involved when the pizza comes out.

Unless the Op is someone who likes to stew on the same non problem endlessly.

Unless the Op is someone who likes to stew on the same non problem endlessly.

it's unlikely

Last time she came was Easter last year 😂

TitaniasAss · 06/09/2025 11:23

Just do your roast and give all the kids pizza beforehand. It's just one meal and not really anything to get in a tiz about.

Cantheowneroftheredcorsapleasemovetheircar · 06/09/2025 11:23

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 06/09/2025 11:18

No one is forcing the autistic child to eat the roast.

Exactly, thank you. At no point did I force anyone to eat anything nor did I suggest anyone should eat anything they don't want.

I did not suggest to my sister or to anyone that nephew should just be made to eat the roast either. It didn't even occur to me until this moment.

Honestly.. I just wanted a few replies, some helpful suggestions (which I got - thank you again) and maybe a bit of humour. I didn't think it would garner this much interest, never mind this much hate. It thought I'd get a couple of pages of responses, if that.

OP posts:
Amonthinthecountry · 06/09/2025 11:24

I’d just suggest booking in at a nice country pub. Anyone who wants a roast can have one and others can eat what they like from the menu.

GinGella · 06/09/2025 11:26

I have a kid that is very specific with what he eats, sensory and texture based so get the need for the pizza but YANBU as the oven was OPENED while the Yorkshires were in absolute madness. I think you did well to keep your outraged internalised 🤣🤣 just cook the pizza earlier. Especially if you cook a decent roast it's probably likely yours is better than going out.

pictoosh · 06/09/2025 11:27

Knowing your nephew has autism, you are seriously considering refusing to cook for them after pizzagate.
AYBU?
Well of course you are. You're not obliged to inform yourself about his condition but knowing a few basics and how they impact on family life might be helpful to you.

Enjoy your family when they arrive and good luck. x

once1caughtafishalive · 06/09/2025 11:28

Ffs, your poor sister. Coming all the way over and youre being so uptight.

Ask her what he wants and cater for him separately? It's no big deal

orangesandlemonssaythebellsofstclements · 06/09/2025 11:31

pictoosh · 06/09/2025 11:27

Knowing your nephew has autism, you are seriously considering refusing to cook for them after pizzagate.
AYBU?
Well of course you are. You're not obliged to inform yourself about his condition but knowing a few basics and how they impact on family life might be helpful to you.

Enjoy your family when they arrive and good luck. x

Edited

She's not obliged to cook for them either though??

Why is it unreasonable for her to say "yeah, that's too much of a headache, I'm not cooking/hosting, someone else can do it or we can go out"

I really don't get the line "you are seriously refusing to cook for them"

pictoosh · 06/09/2025 11:32

Personally, I'd expect to nonchalently bung a pizza in like that with my close family.
She said, "it's for (nephew) he won't eat the roast."

Bash on.

Mistyglade · 06/09/2025 11:32

whitedoorsgalore · 06/09/2025 10:32

I knew as soon as I saw this thread that it’d turn into a pile on. MN can be such a mean place. Ignore them OP!

Firstly, sounds like food is your ‘love language’. You put all the love into the food to let people know you care about them. And then along comes someone, messes with the yorkies and drops a frozen pizza in the mix. I understand the gin swigging!

You just have to give your sister and nephew a ‘free pass’ on account of nephew’s dietary requirements. And as others have suggested, you could let all the kids have a pizza party together - special pizza for the nephew and order in for the others. Stick them all in another room with some gaming or whatever and let the adults enjoy their grown up roast. These family celebrations obviously don’t happen often so just let everyone chill in their own way.

‘Love language’ this reeks of Instagram nonsense.

AcquadiP · 06/09/2025 11:32

DarkForces · 06/09/2025 08:20

You need to invest in Aunt Bessie's to avoid this problem (runs and hides 😂)

Edited

Yorkshire woman here. Wash your mouth out Darkforces.

BloomingGardens · 06/09/2025 11:33

I don't understand why you don't just cook a roast for everyone and a pizza for your nephew. Surely the kids can understand why it's different for him? When my family come around I'm cooking something yummy for everyone who'll eat it and also accommodating the veggie, the milk free, the gluten free, and the autistic. It's only every now and then, and takes a bit of planning, but everyone gets to have a nice time and enjoy their food.

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