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Woman shouted because Dd wee’d in the car park

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Hetoldherthatmagicdoesntexist · 05/09/2025 21:56

Dd, 6 and I were at the supermarket today
We were in a rush, had walked all the way back to car, I was struggling with three large bags, putting them in the boot.
Dd was moaning and difficult most of the day, she said she was desperate for the toilet. I said to just wait a moment as I had to put the bags in etc and we’d go back. She started getting upset saying she was really desperate and about to wee and could she wee by our car quickly. I let her.
As I was fastening her car seat, an older woman walked past and shouted’There are loos inside you know!’ in not a very nice way. I shouted back ‘Excuse me?’ She said she was just saying there were loos inside that can be used (again, it wasn’t said in a nice way’ I said to her ‘She’s 6 years and was desperate and couldn’t hold it in, she’s 6!’ She pulled a face and got in her car.
Dd was upset and asked if she’d done something wrong and felt scared of the mean lady.

It really pissed me off, was I out of order??

OP posts:
BananaPeels · 06/09/2025 09:54

the7Vabo · 06/09/2025 09:49

That’s an assumption. It sounds more likely to me that she’d reached the point of wetting herself.

Yeah - if you child is that desperate then you risk them wetting themselves in the supermarket before they make the loos. I can imagine that is a lot worse.

I once was on a road trip and my son announced that he needed the loo urgently. Completely out the blue he was almost crying. I’m he was about 8- we couldn’t work out why the didn’t give any notice but he said it just came on. We ended up pulling up to a restaurant and had him running their loos without asking as we had zero idea what to do. I bought a coffee of them and apologised but I was stuck with as you say, peeing in a car park without any shelter (we would have used a tree if there had been cover) or basically barge our way into an establishment without permission. Sometimes you have to make a choice in a split second.

Camille99 · 06/09/2025 09:56

A six year old pissing in a car park is disgusting.

Isobel201 · 06/09/2025 09:56

Sorry I wouldn't look twice at a child needing a wee in a car park, she was desperate. I've done the odd wild wee in the past.

paddyclampster · 06/09/2025 09:56

Would she go round berating dog owners?

Or drunken men?

Was there a bush she could have gone behind?

the7Vabo · 06/09/2025 09:56

NuffSaidSam · 06/09/2025 09:50

I know what your point was, as I said someone else already made the same point. I agree. She wouldn't confront a man or group of men doing the same...for fear that she'd be battered to death. Isn't that a shame? That we live in that sort of fear. It's true, but unrelated to what happened in the car park. It's brave to call out any sort of antisocial behaviour. Just because she might not be brave enough to take on a man doesn't mean she wasn't brave to speak up when she saw the OP behaving badly (there are of course lots of violent women too). If, as a society, we called out low level antisocial behaviour more often I think we'd probably all be living in much nicer communities.

Yes, there are lots of violent women & men that engage everyday in actual clear cut anti social behaviour that leaves people terrified to leave their houses.

The OP’s child in a moment of desperation peed in a carpark. A passing woman assuming it’s because the mother doesn’t give a shit and yelling at her doesn’t really solve anything IMO.

It’s not brave to pick on a mother & child.

Khanga27 · 06/09/2025 09:57

the7Vabo · 06/09/2025 09:32

For goodness sake the Op doesn’t need you to be lecturing her & being condensing to her about public order offences.

It is relevant that children are not prosecuted because it recognised between adults & children!

As you said yourself it sounds like a one off and she didn’t “encourage her”, the child suggested it and in a moment of desperation she agreed. She didn’t have a lot of options!

So I think her likelihood of peeing in public as an adult hasn’t greatly increased!

Again, not lecturing anyone r condescending at all. Literally stating a fact in a very short sentence, followed by a longer section to empathise with more practical suggestions. I acknowledged stressful situations things happen and parenting is hard and just to chalk it up as a lesson learnt for the future. Not sure why you’re fixated on that first line in a much longer post trying to actually support and give constructive advice to the op who sounds like was in a tricky situation, and your last post just shows you like to have an argument for the sake of it.

nopiesleftinthisvehicle · 06/09/2025 09:58

What would happen in her school if she told the teacher she couldn't make it out of the classroom to the toilets do you think? 🤔

Dodgethis · 06/09/2025 10:00

Camille99 · 06/09/2025 09:56

A six year old pissing in a car park is disgusting.

That’s how I feel about dogs. Perhaps they shouldn’t go out in public unless they are fully toilet trained.

LimpysGotCancer · 06/09/2025 10:01

You didn't do anything wrong OP (well, apart from trying to justify anything at all to her instead of just hissing at her to piss off). It's the most minor thing imaginable, and most normal people (i.e. not the majority of this website) couldn't give a stuff.

the7Vabo · 06/09/2025 10:02

Khanga27 · 06/09/2025 09:57

Again, not lecturing anyone r condescending at all. Literally stating a fact in a very short sentence, followed by a longer section to empathise with more practical suggestions. I acknowledged stressful situations things happen and parenting is hard and just to chalk it up as a lesson learnt for the future. Not sure why you’re fixated on that first line in a much longer post trying to actually support and give constructive advice to the op who sounds like was in a tricky situation, and your last post just shows you like to have an argument for the sake of it.

Edited

A “fact” that has no direct relevance to a 6 year old child. The Op no doubt knows that peeing in public is a public order offence. She doesn't need you to convey this information. She knows!!

All the poor woman needs at this stage is a massive pile on if she’s still even reading is a bit of empathy. She knows what went wrong it’s in her first post!

I have zero interest in arguing with you at all. It’s not about you. All I want at this stage is to be one of a handful of people who isn’t piling on on the Op

ForeverDelayedEpiphany · 06/09/2025 10:02

BilbaoBaggage · 06/09/2025 09:33

This about sums it up for me. A healthy normal six year old should not need to be peeing in a car park where they have only a couple of minutes earlier been in a building with a public loo in it.

I think it is likely that the moaning difficult behaviour was the child giving signals that something was wrong and OP ignored them for too long.

I remember wetting myself in a shop aged about 7 or 8 because my father was rushing, not listening to me and I was too scared to say to him that I was desperate. With hindsight, being so afraid of him as a child that I couldn't say I needed the loo should have been a massive clue that he was an emotionally abusive arsehole.

I had a similar situation at school once when I was aged 7,where I left it too late to ask a teacher to use the toilet then wet myself. I was scared of her, absolutely terrified of asking her so I knew it was avoidable but of course, it ended badly.

The teacher wasn't that scary in hindsight, just rather unsympathetic with children who cried when they had a bad grade or something - apparently that made them babyish. "Oh don't be such a baby!' shd used to say. 😳😕

NuffSaidSam · 06/09/2025 10:02

the7Vabo · 06/09/2025 09:56

Yes, there are lots of violent women & men that engage everyday in actual clear cut anti social behaviour that leaves people terrified to leave their houses.

The OP’s child in a moment of desperation peed in a carpark. A passing woman assuming it’s because the mother doesn’t give a shit and yelling at her doesn’t really solve anything IMO.

It’s not brave to pick on a mother & child.

From what I can gather she said (from a distance, didn't approach the car) 'there are toilets inside'.

If you consider that being 'picked on' while your child pisses in a car park then I'd suggest a slightly thicker skin!

If she'd come over and said 'Oi you disgusting cunt! Stop pissing on the floor!' I would agree that was completely unreasonable. But commenting that they could have used the facilities mere movements away instead of fouling the pavement? The woman was entirely reasonable and correct.

It's always brave to speak up when you see antisocial behaviour. Always. The world would be a better place if we felt empowered to do it more often.

Kelly1969 · 06/09/2025 10:03

Knickersnolongerinatwist · 06/09/2025 09:42

I think weasel cheeks is missing another possible option. The OP's DD does this regularly either because she finds it fun or just plain doesn't like supermarket toilets. It reminds me of when my son was in preschool aged 4 and we'd queue outside waiting for the door to open. One child declared hilself "desperate" so his mother suggested he pee in the drain rather than wait the couple of minutes until the doors were optner. Immediately all the others boys were also desperate and pleasing with their parents to pee in the drain. Most of them did. This because a ritual every morning. One morning the preschool staff came out and saw them doing it. Parents apologetic. Kids were desperate. It was very hard to break the habit after that because it was so normal and part of their preschool routine. I think possibly the op's DD also had this habit but no one has called her out on it before and this is why it's notable this time.

Yes you might be right, given the child’s surprise at the woman’s comment!
The op is normalizing lazy, dirty behaviour and so the child knows no different.
Its totally gross that all the boys were pissing in the drain, I mean how far have these kids travelled from that they’re all desperate, not that far I’m sure!

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 06/09/2025 10:03

Hetoldherthatmagicdoesntexist · 05/09/2025 22:03

There was no one really around, we were parked in a quiet spot away from other cars quite far from the doors

Well, obviously there was someone around who was sufficiently pissed off to rebuke public (visible) pissing in a car park

CountryQueen · 06/09/2025 10:04

YABU and disgusting. Why do you think it’s ok for the next car to come along and jump out into a puddle of piss? You’d walked past the toilets just seconds before. Take responsibility and make sure your kid uses the toilet regularly

Kelly1969 · 06/09/2025 10:04

Isobel201 · 06/09/2025 09:56

Sorry I wouldn't look twice at a child needing a wee in a car park, she was desperate. I've done the odd wild wee in the past.

Nothing wild about a car park, near a supermarket with toilets

the7Vabo · 06/09/2025 10:04

NuffSaidSam · 06/09/2025 10:02

From what I can gather she said (from a distance, didn't approach the car) 'there are toilets inside'.

If you consider that being 'picked on' while your child pisses in a car park then I'd suggest a slightly thicker skin!

If she'd come over and said 'Oi you disgusting cunt! Stop pissing on the floor!' I would agree that was completely unreasonable. But commenting that they could have used the facilities mere movements away instead of fouling the pavement? The woman was entirely reasonable and correct.

It's always brave to speak up when you see antisocial behaviour. Always. The world would be a better place if we felt empowered to do it more often.

I disagree with you about it being brave to comment on a young child but we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one.

Me20176 · 06/09/2025 10:06

I can’t believe the level of excitement and outrage over this. A six year old did a wee in a carpark. Nobody died. I’d let my eight year old do the same. Parenting is exhausting and I can’t deal with all the carry on of getting him back into the supermarket. Scandalous! 🤣

NuffSaidSam · 06/09/2025 10:07

the7Vabo · 06/09/2025 10:04

I disagree with you about it being brave to comment on a young child but we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one.

I can agree to disagree.

the7Vabo · 06/09/2025 10:07

Me20176 · 06/09/2025 10:06

I can’t believe the level of excitement and outrage over this. A six year old did a wee in a carpark. Nobody died. I’d let my eight year old do the same. Parenting is exhausting and I can’t deal with all the carry on of getting him back into the supermarket. Scandalous! 🤣

You better brace for the pile on….

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 06/09/2025 10:08

Does this school girl piss herself at school, or on the sofa at home, or in your car, or in bad? If so, you likely have a problem bigger than pissing in a car park. Time maybe for a visit to the GP

Devonshiregal · 06/09/2025 10:09

Springadorable · 05/09/2025 21:58

I would expect my recently turned 4 year old to hold until we were back in the supermarket. At an absolute push I'd let my 2 year old wee in the car park but unlikely. No way should a 6 yo be weeing there, you were very unreasonable and well done to the other lady for calling you out on it.

Yet the same people who would rather a little child wet themselves rather than have a quick wee outside will let their dog piss and shit all over the floor….because that makes sense.

Hellohelga · 06/09/2025 10:09

All these children peeing in car parks. Im shocked 16% of people think it’s ok to teach your child to squat and pee where they are because it’s easy. Using the loo before you leave home, holding it in and rushing around looking for a loo when needed, are life skills that should be learned. Next you’ll be saying children go to school in nappies.

Hellohelga · 06/09/2025 10:10

Devonshiregal · 06/09/2025 10:09

Yet the same people who would rather a little child wet themselves rather than have a quick wee outside will let their dog piss and shit all over the floor….because that makes sense.

Oh give over turning this into a rant about dogs.

BananaPeels · 06/09/2025 10:10

Kelly1969 · 06/09/2025 10:04

Nothing wild about a car park, near a supermarket with toilets

but what if the child couldn’t make it to the loos? You are making an assumption she could hold it in. None of us know.

Is it better the child peed in the supermarket? The mum had a split second choice to make. I’d have let my daughter pee if she were desperate than risk her weeing on the floor inside. I think that is much worse

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