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To think Farage surely has to go

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 13:50

So Farage has some dodgy private company set up to avoid paying tax. Is he being pressured to resign as head of Reform? Of course not. Because he’s an entitled privileged man.

The double standards are incredible really. Here’s the story https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

While I think Rayner had to resign, why are the same standards not being applied?

Nigel Farage uses private company to pay less tax on GB News earnings

Exclusive: Reform leader’s use of personal services firm is a practice criticised across the political spectrum

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

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TopPocketFind · 05/09/2025 17:33

Jadefade · 05/09/2025 17:31

He has done nothing wrong, most people in broadcasting would set up their affairs like this. It's common practice; you might as well call those who use an ISA guilt of tax evasion.

He is an MP now,, not a person in broadcasting.

Admittedly, it's a thin line.

And probably a reason why people in broadcasting aren't too keen challenging it.

ScholesPanda · 05/09/2025 17:34

He won't go because like Trump, his first line of defence is offence, and he never apologises (whereas the left are always trying to appear decent and rational).

Also, his supporters love him regardless and distrust the MSM so will believe it's probably been made up by the evil lefties in alliance with Hilary Clinton or some such stuff.

Angela Rayner is a successful woman, Northern and working class- that alone was enough for a lot of people to hate her. She was also a reasonably left wing bulwark within Labour, and the establishment were always looking to get rid before she damaged their interests.

TopPocketFind · 05/09/2025 17:35

Brunettesmorefun · 05/09/2025 17:31

Very tiresome!

Social mobility is to some

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:37

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 17:33

Don't you mean, Brexit "didn't work" for most people.

Project Fear was completely wrong. The world didn't end. Very little changed. Starmer is benefiting massively being able to negotiate on the world stage. We don't have EU levels of tariffs etc. Just like not bringing in hundreds of thousands of immigrants won't hurt, and people will realise working for a living isn't that bad.

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2025 17:40

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:37

Project Fear was completely wrong. The world didn't end. Very little changed. Starmer is benefiting massively being able to negotiate on the world stage. We don't have EU levels of tariffs etc. Just like not bringing in hundreds of thousands of immigrants won't hurt, and people will realise working for a living isn't that bad.

https://niesr.ac.uk/blog/five-years-economic-impact-brexit

Five Years On: The Economic Impact of Brexit - NIESR

On 31 January 2020, the United Kingdom became the first member state to leave the European Union. In the five years since, what impact has Brexit-related uncertainty had on UK investment and trade? And how has Brexit compared to other economic shocks?...

https://niesr.ac.uk/blog/five-years-economic-impact-brexit

YesImaman1100 · 05/09/2025 17:41

OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 13:56

Rubbish. He’s avoiding tax. She made a stupid mistake. Both in public life but massive levels of hypocrisy. He’s the leader of a political party lecturing everyone else on how they should live while taking the piss.

All politicians should live by the same standards. We are paying their bloody salaries.

Quite obvious that you aren't looking objectively, it's a different situation completely. Also legal and not a breach of ethics.

TopPocketFind · 05/09/2025 17:42

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:37

Project Fear was completely wrong. The world didn't end. Very little changed. Starmer is benefiting massively being able to negotiate on the world stage. We don't have EU levels of tariffs etc. Just like not bringing in hundreds of thousands of immigrants won't hurt, and people will realise working for a living isn't that bad.

Project Fear didnt predict the end of the world, never mind the loss in GDP

Increased immigration was a result of Brexit

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 17:42

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:37

Project Fear was completely wrong. The world didn't end. Very little changed. Starmer is benefiting massively being able to negotiate on the world stage. We don't have EU levels of tariffs etc. Just like not bringing in hundreds of thousands of immigrants won't hurt, and people will realise working for a living isn't that bad.

What's "Project Fear"?

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2025 17:43

YesImaman1100 · 05/09/2025 17:41

Quite obvious that you aren't looking objectively, it's a different situation completely. Also legal and not a breach of ethics.

It doesn’t pass the smell test though. Nor does the second home he owns in his partner’s name.

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:45

Brexit hating think-tank writes anti-brexit report shocker. Labour shortages aren't driven by Brexit - they are driven by our lavish benefits system that pays far too many people not to work. Once Reform cut that back the vacancies will be filled with Brits.

Q2C4 · 05/09/2025 17:46

EasternStandard · 05/09/2025 17:25

It’s not in their remit, they were not irresponsible. No MP could use the bad advice line as the defence anymore.

If tax wasn’t in their remit I’d argue they should not have expressed any view re the tax position, other than to recommend that specialist advice should be taken.

TopPocketFind · 05/09/2025 17:46

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:45

Brexit hating think-tank writes anti-brexit report shocker. Labour shortages aren't driven by Brexit - they are driven by our lavish benefits system that pays far too many people not to work. Once Reform cut that back the vacancies will be filled with Brits.

And unicorns exist

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:48

TopPocketFind · 05/09/2025 17:46

And unicorns exist

I'm sorry you can't see a more successful future for the UK.

Zapx · 05/09/2025 17:49

Didn’t Ken Livingstone have an almost identical arrangement?

TopPocketFind · 05/09/2025 17:50

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:48

I'm sorry you can't see a more successful future for the UK.

Oh I can but not with Farage

Paying the Taliban for example?

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2025 17:50

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:45

Brexit hating think-tank writes anti-brexit report shocker. Labour shortages aren't driven by Brexit - they are driven by our lavish benefits system that pays far too many people not to work. Once Reform cut that back the vacancies will be filled with Brits.

The National Institute of Economic and Social Research draws upon its collective memory of policy influence since 1938 to play a pivotal role in national and international policy debates, particularly through our quarterly Economic Outlooks and our Review. We deploy our convening power for policymakers, academics, the media, and other research institutes – from our Westminster base – to bring about better policy.

Another source since you didn’t like the first one.

https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/07/25/why-is-the-uk-struggling-with-its-gdp-growth-and-is-brexit-to-blame

And another.

https://obr.uk/forecasts-in-depth/the-economy-forecast/brexit-analysis/#assumptions

The UK’s weak economic growth and Brexit: Is the worst over?

The UK’s weak economic growth and Brexit: Is the worst over?

The UK’s decision to leave the European Union has left lasting impacts on the country’s economy. While many of the repercussions appear to be longstanding, including low productivity, Euronews Business asked experts whether they think the worst is over...

https://www.euronews.com/business/2025/07/25/why-is-the-uk-struggling-with-its-gdp-growth-and-is-brexit-to-blame

Menopausalsourpuss · 05/09/2025 17:50

ScholesPanda · 05/09/2025 17:34

He won't go because like Trump, his first line of defence is offence, and he never apologises (whereas the left are always trying to appear decent and rational).

Also, his supporters love him regardless and distrust the MSM so will believe it's probably been made up by the evil lefties in alliance with Hilary Clinton or some such stuff.

Angela Rayner is a successful woman, Northern and working class- that alone was enough for a lot of people to hate her. She was also a reasonably left wing bulwark within Labour, and the establishment were always looking to get rid before she damaged their interests.

The only success she has is at milking the taxpayer - she had never done a non taxpayer funded job that I'm aware of. And it is usually middle class mumsnet types who hate the working classes (see Brexit and flying British flags). And people like Rayner ARE the establishment - who has more power than the likes of her?

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:51

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 17:42

What's "Project Fear"?

You don't remember Project Fear? Are you just out of school?

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 17:53

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:45

Brexit hating think-tank writes anti-brexit report shocker. Labour shortages aren't driven by Brexit - they are driven by our lavish benefits system that pays far too many people not to work. Once Reform cut that back the vacancies will be filled with Brits.

So they were driven by the "lavish benefits system" that existed under a Conservative government, in times of austerity?

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 17:54

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:51

You don't remember Project Fear? Are you just out of school?

No, I don't know what it is, explain it to me like I'm 6?

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 05/09/2025 17:54

Brunettesmorefun · 05/09/2025 17:15

I don’t think so. I have heard that she was popular within the Labour Party. Personally I am glad I don’t have to hear her going on about coming from a working class background, pregnant at 16 etc. It became very tiresome.

“I’m working class and we like to dance” is my favourite AR quote.

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 17:58

Yes since Blair introduced benefits for all. The system has ballooned and ballooned. That is why people have got so used to it. It is shocking what happened under the Conversative Government. That is why the system needs to be Reform ed.

EasternStandard · 05/09/2025 17:58

Q2C4 · 05/09/2025 17:46

If tax wasn’t in their remit I’d argue they should not have expressed any view re the tax position, other than to recommend that specialist advice should be taken.

They told her to get specialist advice. She failed to go through with that. She only has herself to blame which is why she’s now out.

No MP could do the media round with any defence.

Katherine9 · 05/09/2025 18:01

Pulling at straws here, OP

BallerinaRadio · 05/09/2025 18:04

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 17:54

No, I don't know what it is, explain it to me like I'm 6?

Genuine concerns about the effects of Brexit spun by the right wing media and grifters as having no faith in your country that turned out to be true and we're yet to see the sunlit uplands.

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