To think Farage surely has to go

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So Farage has some dodgy private company set up to avoid paying tax. Is he being pressured to resign as head of Reform? Of course not. Because he’s an entitled privileged man.

The double standards are incredible really. Here’s the story https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

While I think Rayner had to resign, why are the same standards not being applied?

I don’t think someone who supports education tax would understand the view on why the ECHR has failed us. We’ll agree to disagree. It’s swung my vote though and the polls look promising for it happening.

It’s not an education tacos. The ECHR hasn’t failed us.
Which rights are you most looking forward to giving up?

Tax*
Autocorrect fail

I’ve already explained I’m looking forward to it being replaced by something that does protect my rights and provided a recent example of where the ECHR failed to do that. I understand you don’t agree, but it’s a big issue for me and I personally rank my basic rights high on priority list when supporting a political party.

So do you trust all politicians of whatever political persuasion to protect your rights? Because without an external legal framework you have no recourse against your government whatsoever. You may trust Farage (though I’m not sure why anyone would trust a proven liar) but even if he gets in next time he won’t be in forever, and sooner or later someone you dont like as much will hold the power.
It’s not so much I don’t agree, it’s that it’s nonsense to suggest tax free private education is a human right - which is what the ECHR decided I assume. What about the right to free speech? Workers’ rights? Healthcare? Who will protect you on these issues of actual rights if there’s no ECHR? And why do you want to be an outcast from international communities - look who else isn’t signed up. Do you want to be like Russia? Belarus?
It’s a very short sighted position to take.

I don’t know how else to explain it to you, we have an authoritarian Government restricting access to non state education options for ideological reasons. The ECHR should prevent this, it hasn’t and I want it replaced with something that guarantees basic rights. You disagree, I get that, but for me education choice is a cornerstone of civilisation and it’s more important than being an outcast from international communities.

What is your proposal? Nigel said that we should get the Navy to force boats back into French territory. Robert Peston asked him about this plan, and pointed out that doing so is in fact an act of war against France. Nigel’s reaction? Laughter. I don’t know how we can take him seriously.

He also promised last Friday that if he’s PM, illegal crossings will stop within 2 weeks. Laura Kuenssberg pushed back on this on Sunday, and he admitted it wouldn’t be 2 weeks from being sworn in as PM.

It’s all fun and games when your party only has 5 MPs and you can promise the world, on the basis that you’ll never be the majority party in power. But if you want to be in power, you need credible plans that are a) honest (not this 2 weeks before all boats stop business), and b) credible (his idea to get the Navy to enact an act of war against France won’t cut it, neither will his budget, which does not add up).

Time to come of with some realistic plans if Reform are serious about being in the majority. These false promises are an absolute joke.

This is perfectly legal right? He's just being a smart businessman. I'd legally minimise my tax bill if I could.

I’ve never voted Labour in my life. Not once. However, I think we can all agree that they always had a credible chance of being voted in, seeing that they’ve never had just 5 MPs in Parliament. I didn’t agree with their budget, but at least Kier wasn’t making proposals that were acts of war against France, and laughing about it when questioned.

Labour didn't have only 5 MPs.

It’s not a flex, when questioning someone’s intelligence, to misspell “aren’t”.

Where is this ‘act of war’ stuff coming from? The French might beat us to it anyway with the navy as RN are leading in the polls and their GE is earlier.

Actually I can remember the popular phrase of the 2010 election being "I m voting Conservative because they can't be any worse than the Government (Labour) we've got now".

And again in last year's election a friend said the same thing "I m voting Labour because they can't be any worse than the Government (Conservative ) we've got now".

The reality is that Governments (Conservative or Labour) are incredibly limited as to what real change they can do.

Borrow too much money and the bond markets stop you.
increase taxes and the economy slows or turns into a recession further reducing tax revenue
Cut spending and those voters that lose out will be very vocal and n their objections whilst those voters that are unaffected or even winners stay silent. Resulting in rebellion by your own MPs who are desperate to keep their seats.

The only solution for real change is for the next Government to push through incredibly unpopular policies and work on the assumption that they won't be in power at the following election

Nigel said that the solution to the small boat problem is for the Navy to force the boats back into French territory. It was pointed out to him that this action is technically an act of war against France, and he laughed.

I don’t make the maritime laws on what is considered an act of war…I’m just relaying that when it was pointed out to Nigel, his answer was not words, but laughter.

Because he hasn't got a fucking clue and is basically the British host of the MAGA reality TV format...

If the RN are in they’ll probably decide at the same time, it’s their policy too.

I guess I didn’t realise that the Navy were allowed to unilaterally make their own decisions on when to partake in acts of war. I was under the impression that Parliament decides and the orders are given to the armed forces.

Same tbf and is it more to do with legality? If they are ordered and it’s legal can they object?

I think only have 5 MPs is pretty significant, I mean it's quite the challenge don't you think...

I am pretty bright, how about you or should that be 'U'?

It's not the spelling....

Total Trumpism. Lie about the impossible to achieve until in power than laugh in the faces of those daft enough to have believed "He doesn't mean ME". He probably does.