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To think Farage surely has to go

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 13:50

So Farage has some dodgy private company set up to avoid paying tax. Is he being pressured to resign as head of Reform? Of course not. Because he’s an entitled privileged man.

The double standards are incredible really. Here’s the story https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

While I think Rayner had to resign, why are the same standards not being applied?

Nigel Farage uses private company to pay less tax on GB News earnings

Exclusive: Reform leader’s use of personal services firm is a practice criticised across the political spectrum

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

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dottiehens · 06/09/2025 21:31

This is ridiculous. Every time Labour fuck it up there are a myriad of posts about other politicians who have done nothing wrong. Sorry AR is a con artist so do not say she made a mistake. She was up to the neck and needed to be sacked on the spot.

BIossomtoes · 06/09/2025 21:59

Onwardspeople · 06/09/2025 20:53

According to Rightmove, average house price Clacton on Sea is £251k. Average house price Ashton Under Lyne? £205k.

Farage is unlikely to live in the average house but even so £40k stamp duty is a stretch.

yellowspanner · 06/09/2025 22:22

Nigel Farage's tax affairs are legal . You may not like him or his tax affairs but he is not acting illegally .
Rayner was told to take tax advice. She refused and she then tried to push a small form of all women solicitors under a bus saying they gave her bad advice.
They gave her no advice.
She is a liar and committed fraud by underpaying £40000 in stamp duty.
She will rightly be fined by HMRC.
If you believe that was a genuine mistake then you'll believe pigs can fly

Serpentstooth · 07/09/2025 10:16

Sometimes at moments like this, Farage conference, I take a close look and wonder if David Icke had a point about the lizard people.

Serpentstooth · 07/09/2025 10:19

yellowspanner · 06/09/2025 22:22

Nigel Farage's tax affairs are legal . You may not like him or his tax affairs but he is not acting illegally .
Rayner was told to take tax advice. She refused and she then tried to push a small form of all women solicitors under a bus saying they gave her bad advice.
They gave her no advice.
She is a liar and committed fraud by underpaying £40000 in stamp duty.
She will rightly be fined by HMRC.
If you believe that was a genuine mistake then you'll believe pigs can fly

If you believe in Farage's guff, you're welcome to accompany me watching the sky where winged pigs abound.

EmpressoftheMundane · 07/09/2025 10:20

The Mirror 😏

What he did was legal. What she did was illegal. I feel sorry for her, but we need people running the country who are extremely competent. She is not. The average person may have made the same mistake. I want someone better than average governing me!

Farage’s supporters will not care a jot that his French wife bought the house he is living in. He is promising to lead the country in a direction they want to go. That is their priority.

Serpentstooth · 07/09/2025 10:29

He's just said on Kuensbergs programme that he doesnt have the experience to do that. He will garner to him advice and practice via ex Tories who are yet to join him. So far, he's got Lee Liar Anderson and Nadine it's not fair Dorŕies. Both intellectual Giants of the Right. Good luck with them running the show.

yellowspanner · 07/09/2025 11:21

If Nigel Farage does become PM he will definitely take the country in the direction I want it to go. I'm hoping the Tory right will regroup and do a deal with Reform to leave the ECHR and join a pact together

Whammyyammy · 07/09/2025 11:43

He's not deputy PM.
He's not doing anything illegal.
He hasn't spouted off about laws, then broke them himself.
He hasn't increased taxes for the British taxpayer, then bought a swanky new pad and avoided £40k in stamp duty.

Nothing similar to the former deputy pm.

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 07/09/2025 11:53

Because he's not a hypocrite. Farage has always been anti tax.

BIossomtoes · 07/09/2025 12:02

yellowspanner · 07/09/2025 11:21

If Nigel Farage does become PM he will definitely take the country in the direction I want it to go. I'm hoping the Tory right will regroup and do a deal with Reform to leave the ECHR and join a pact together

Well you’ll hope in vain. If that happens a lot of traditional Tories will either move their vote elsewhere or refuse to vote at all.

cardibach · 07/09/2025 12:16

yellowspanner · 07/09/2025 11:21

If Nigel Farage does become PM he will definitely take the country in the direction I want it to go. I'm hoping the Tory right will regroup and do a deal with Reform to leave the ECHR and join a pact together

Why do you want to leave the ECHR? What rights don’t you like having?

Biker47 · 07/09/2025 12:41

Rayner hasn't avoided £40k stamp duty, she's evaded it by fraud, which is different, and much worse.

BIossomtoes · 07/09/2025 12:42

Biker47 · 07/09/2025 12:41

Rayner hasn't avoided £40k stamp duty, she's evaded it by fraud, which is different, and much worse.

If that were the case she should be prosecuted. Clearly it’s not.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 07/09/2025 13:40

cardibach · 07/09/2025 12:16

Why do you want to leave the ECHR? What rights don’t you like having?

It stops us managing illegal migration and didn’t protect our right to plurality of education, I’m all for it definitely being looked into and replaced with something that actually protects my rights.

Goldenbear · 07/09/2025 14:28

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 07/09/2025 13:40

It stops us managing illegal migration and didn’t protect our right to plurality of education, I’m all for it definitely being looked into and replaced with something that actually protects my rights.

Do you understand the significance of being a member of the EHCR for our economy?

Firstly, if the UK wants to continue to easily share personal data with the the EU, which incidentally took lots of years to rectify following the Brexit shambles, then the UK needs to demonstrate an ability to provide an adequate level of data protection which is assessed by the EU. Membership of the EHCR indirectly supports adherence to fundamental rights including privacy and data protection, these are the principles that underpin the GDPR and ensures our 'adequate' levels of protection in the eyes of the EU commission. Why would you want to revert to the challenges post Brexit of sharing personal data in a service economy like the UK has? It would be a huge, gigantic blow and set back to the UK economy making us all worse off!

Secondly, in terms of the UK-EU Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA) the TCA explicitly commits both parties (UK and EU) to respect the ECHR, this is a foundational element for security cooperation, judicial cooperation, and data sharing. Withdrawal from the ECHR would likely break this commitment, weakening the UK’s standing under the TCA. Again, how is that going to help the UK economy?

cardibach · 07/09/2025 14:40

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 07/09/2025 13:40

It stops us managing illegal migration and didn’t protect our right to plurality of education, I’m all for it definitely being looked into and replaced with something that actually protects my rights.

No, it doesn’t. It just means we have to do it in a legal way, with due process.
By ‘plurality of education’ I assume you mean VAT on independent schools. Well, independent education isn’t banned, so it’s been preserved. If you can’t afford it, that’s a shame.
The ECHR provides a way for us to challenge our own government if they go too far. A British Bill of Rights won’t. Do you trust all politicians, of all political persuasions, to always do right by you?

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 07/09/2025 15:51

cardibach · 07/09/2025 14:40

No, it doesn’t. It just means we have to do it in a legal way, with due process.
By ‘plurality of education’ I assume you mean VAT on independent schools. Well, independent education isn’t banned, so it’s been preserved. If you can’t afford it, that’s a shame.
The ECHR provides a way for us to challenge our own government if they go too far. A British Bill of Rights won’t. Do you trust all politicians, of all political persuasions, to always do right by you?

Yes the education taxes, I’d always thought the ECHR main purpose was to provide protection from authoritarian Governments and policies exactly like that but it failed. Quite happy to vote for a party that will look at leaving the ECHR.

Boomer55 · 07/09/2025 15:52

Reform has some sort of company set up and he's in charge. He doesn't have to do anything.

yellowspanner · 07/09/2025 20:28

The ECHR prevents us deporting illegal immigrants quickly and provides a route for the left wing lawyers to claim that the illegal immigrants are being denied a right to whatever bunkum they can come up with

cardibach · 07/09/2025 20:32

yellowspanner · 07/09/2025 20:28

The ECHR prevents us deporting illegal immigrants quickly and provides a route for the left wing lawyers to claim that the illegal immigrants are being denied a right to whatever bunkum they can come up with

Nope.
Nobody can stop someone being deported if deporting them is legal. Governments need to follow the law then it’ll all work.
Which rights are you, personally, most looking forward to losing? Because it’s not just those others it affects.

cardibach · 07/09/2025 20:33

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 07/09/2025 15:51

Yes the education taxes, I’d always thought the ECHR main purpose was to provide protection from authoritarian Governments and policies exactly like that but it failed. Quite happy to vote for a party that will look at leaving the ECHR.

It’s not an education tax - it’s a tax on a luxury service. Introducing it isn’t authoritarian.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 07/09/2025 20:53

cardibach · 07/09/2025 20:33

It’s not an education tax - it’s a tax on a luxury service. Introducing it isn’t authoritarian.

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I strongly disagree education is a luxury service and removing freedoms to choosing education is quite clearly authoritarian. However this thread isn’t about that. Having a fundamental right such as my children’s education protected from Government is exactly what the ECHR should do, it failed. Instead it is used to keep criminals in the U.K. rather than deported for ever more far fetched reasons. I’m absolutely in favour of it being looked at in favour of something which will protect basic rights of people of the UK. This is very important to me and I’ll overlook flaws in Reform if it means this is implemented.

cardibach · 07/09/2025 21:08

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 07/09/2025 20:53

I strongly disagree education is a luxury service and removing freedoms to choosing education is quite clearly authoritarian. However this thread isn’t about that. Having a fundamental right such as my children’s education protected from Government is exactly what the ECHR should do, it failed. Instead it is used to keep criminals in the U.K. rather than deported for ever more far fetched reasons. I’m absolutely in favour of it being looked at in favour of something which will protect basic rights of people of the UK. This is very important to me and I’ll overlook flaws in Reform if it means this is implemented.

Education isn’t a luxury service, no. And it’s available free at the point of use for everyone in the U.K. Private education is a luxury service. Nobody has limited your freedom to choose it - you just have to be able to afford it. A few fewer people can now do that, and that’s all. Your children’s education is protected. The government provides them a free at point if use education as already stated.
Reform will remove all workers’ rights and healthcare rights. I think that’s a bit more authoritarian than a small rise in fees for an optional type of education.