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usernamealreadytaken · 2025-09-05T11:02:52+00:00

AIBU to say it isn't unexpected, or a surprise?

Freud2 · 06/09/2025 21:40

I mentioned him as another poster was complaining about his tax affairs in comparison.

broney · 06/09/2025 21:50

Good God, can you HEAR yourselves?

This is a TOTAL witch-hunt by the right-wing. She has been the subject of tory smear-campaigns ever since she appeared on the Labour front-bench. A Working-Class, Northern, WOMAN, who grew up in a council-house, has reached the highest office. And the millionaires and old-Etonians who control the conservative party cannot bear the fact.
She has a complex family setup, with a severely disabled child, and has been FORCED to "go public" with the details of the financial arrangements they have made to ensure that child is provided for in the future.

I thought this was MUMS-net? We should all be sticking up for her! After all the scrutiny she's been under for several years now, do you HONESTLY think she would do anything REMOTELY dodgy? She was given incorrect financial advice, that is ALL!

Mum23plusC · 06/09/2025 21:54

Good riddance!
But like Arnie, she'll be back. In some position or other, she will. Probably after Jungle, S.A.S., Strictly or other such shite as My Mum your Dad

Fraudornot · 06/09/2025 21:54

@broneyin simple terms - why did she need three homes?
on the deeper issues she has been found to have acted unethically.
not sure why you are defending her

AnEnglishCircedee · 06/09/2025 21:56

Liar and hypocrite and so insincere. I feel All Mp’s are untrustworthy but I’m especially Hating labour .

EasternStandard · 06/09/2025 22:10

broney · 06/09/2025 21:50

Good God, can you HEAR yourselves?

This is a TOTAL witch-hunt by the right-wing. She has been the subject of tory smear-campaigns ever since she appeared on the Labour front-bench. A Working-Class, Northern, WOMAN, who grew up in a council-house, has reached the highest office. And the millionaires and old-Etonians who control the conservative party cannot bear the fact.
She has a complex family setup, with a severely disabled child, and has been FORCED to "go public" with the details of the financial arrangements they have made to ensure that child is provided for in the future.

I thought this was MUMS-net? We should all be sticking up for her! After all the scrutiny she's been under for several years now, do you HONESTLY think she would do anything REMOTELY dodgy? She was given incorrect financial advice, that is ALL!

No she was advised to get specialist advice which she ignored for some reason, and then tried to blame the conveyancer.

oakashandelm · 06/09/2025 22:10

@broney "She was given incorrect financial advice, that is ALL! !

Not at all.

She was given advice by her conveyancers which was "get specialist financial advice".
She chose to ignore that.

Shakeoffyourchains · 07/09/2025 00:39

usernamealreadytaken · 06/09/2025 16:36

The byline literally says; “Last year Nigel Farage announced he had bought a house in Clacton, Essex, but in fact it was his partner Laure Ferrari, 46, who shelled out almost £900,000 for the property”

Why on earth would he be liable for tax on something that somebody else has bought? Unless he gave her the money (which money laundering would have flagged), he may have asked her to buy somewhere convenient for him, but he has not been party to the purchase. There's reaching, and there’s reeeeeaaaaccchhhiiinnnggg 🤣

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Back in November 2024, when asked how often he’d been to Clacton, Farage said “I’ve just exchanged contracts on a house, I’ll be living there full-time, is that good enough?” He repeated the claim, confirming that he had bought a house in Clacton, on Nick Ferrari’s show in January 2025.

But turns out he never bought the place, he doesn’t live there full-time, and he’s now admitted he was wrong to say otherwise. So even if it's not a tax dodge it does mean he’s lied to the public, repeatedly, which is a clear breach of Section C, the Seven Principles of Public Life, which state that MPs must be truthful.

So, if we’re all about holding MPs to the highest standards, it’s only fair he reports himself to the ethics committee and offers his resignation if found to have breached the code, no?

But don't worry, we all know you’ll twist yourself in knots to avoid criticising the dear leader, so we'll just enjoy watching the mental gymnastics as to why Nigel’s different, or maybe we'll get treated to some whataboutery instead 🤔😅

KhakiTiger · 07/09/2025 00:52

cardibach · 06/09/2025 17:07

Oh, sorry, I missed ‘corrupt’ @KhakiTiger
Some have been caught doing corrupt things, it’s true. I don’t believe the majority are corrupt, no, and you can’t prove they are unless they get caught doing something corrupt - it’s your opinion, and one you’ve decided on through emotion as there aren’t any facts to have used. You can’t argue and disprove a belief someone developed without argument and proof. There’s literally no evidence I could present that would convince you. It’s impossible to prove a negative anyway.

You could make a case to prove the point that you want to debate. It you haven’t as yet. If ‘I can’t win’ is your best argument, then it’s not much of a debate, is it. Which is what you wanted to have.

Brunettesmorefun · 07/09/2025 01:00

Pinkproseccolady · 06/09/2025 20:25

I do not support any MP's, the rich and famous or just those who have good accountants dodging their fair share of tax, but the hounding of Angela Rayner is either just thinly veiled misogyny or opporunism as Reform are close on her tail in her constituency!

Let's not forget Farage buying house in his wife's name to avoid £44,000 of tax, Nadhim Zahawi forgot to pay 5 million tax and no-one spray painted his house. Jeremy Hunt had around 20 houses and no one asked him how he managed to buy them.

Oh, and Farage recently delivering a presentation on how to avoid tax for the already very rich audience!

As regards the property, Farage has done nothing wrong. The property was bought by his partner. It is her property. My husband and I used to own a property each which is absolutely above board.
Angela Rayner was advised to take tax advice which she decided not to do and consequently did not pay the correct amount of tax which in her position was pretty stupid of her.

Bunny65 · 07/09/2025 03:39

BallerinaRadio · 05/09/2025 12:12

Well now that's over let's see the media go after Farage with the same venom. Let's see wall to wall coverage of his last property scam.

He becomes very aggressive when anyone tries to question him about anything dodgy he might have done, it’s his modus operandi. Beth Rigby asked him about this very thing on Sky News on Saturday and he was all “How dare you?” and talking over her with a very menacing manner. I don’t believe for a second that he hasn’t practised tax avoidance over the years. No I’m not a fan, I think he’s as likely to stop the boats and send off 5 planes of migrants a day as Trump was to end the Ukraine and Gaza wars in 48 hours. I’m actually horrified at the idea of him becoming prime minister with his motley crew.

oakashandelm · 07/09/2025 07:59

Shakeoffyourchains · 07/09/2025 00:39

Back in November 2024, when asked how often he’d been to Clacton, Farage said “I’ve just exchanged contracts on a house, I’ll be living there full-time, is that good enough?” He repeated the claim, confirming that he had bought a house in Clacton, on Nick Ferrari’s show in January 2025.

But turns out he never bought the place, he doesn’t live there full-time, and he’s now admitted he was wrong to say otherwise. So even if it's not a tax dodge it does mean he’s lied to the public, repeatedly, which is a clear breach of Section C, the Seven Principles of Public Life, which state that MPs must be truthful.

So, if we’re all about holding MPs to the highest standards, it’s only fair he reports himself to the ethics committee and offers his resignation if found to have breached the code, no?

But don't worry, we all know you’ll twist yourself in knots to avoid criticising the dear leader, so we'll just enjoy watching the mental gymnastics as to why Nigel’s different, or maybe we'll get treated to some whataboutery instead 🤔😅

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"Back in November 2024, when asked how often he’d been to Clacton, Farage said “I’ve just exchanged contracts on a house, I’ll be living there full-time, is that good enough?” He repeated the claim, confirming that he had bought a house in Clacton, on Nick Ferrari’s show in January 2025."

He should have said "she" not "we" because he wanted to keep his girlfriend out of the spotlight.

As someone who get death threats on a regular basis it isn't surprising he wanted to be "incognito".

Satisfiedwithanapple · 07/09/2025 07:59

broney · 06/09/2025 21:50

Good God, can you HEAR yourselves?

This is a TOTAL witch-hunt by the right-wing. She has been the subject of tory smear-campaigns ever since she appeared on the Labour front-bench. A Working-Class, Northern, WOMAN, who grew up in a council-house, has reached the highest office. And the millionaires and old-Etonians who control the conservative party cannot bear the fact.
She has a complex family setup, with a severely disabled child, and has been FORCED to "go public" with the details of the financial arrangements they have made to ensure that child is provided for in the future.

I thought this was MUMS-net? We should all be sticking up for her! After all the scrutiny she's been under for several years now, do you HONESTLY think she would do anything REMOTELY dodgy? She was given incorrect financial advice, that is ALL!

She is a victim of her own choices no more or less. Just like Johnson.

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usernamealreadytaken · 07/09/2025 08:17

tommyhoundmum · 06/09/2025 18:09

I think she thought putting her share of the property into trust would mean her new flat was her sole property. But as she managed the trust she was wrong.

I honestly don't think anyone explained that properly to her.

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Given that the trust was set up by a very reputable organisation, I’d find that very hard to believe!

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usernamealreadytaken · 07/09/2025 08:21

BIossomtoes · 06/09/2025 18:40

She didn’t try to take anyone down with her.

She released a statement saying she had followed advice, implying that if she had done wrong, then her advisers had given the wrong advice. The caveat to the advice she received was she was advised to take further, specialist advice, but she didn't do so.

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usernamealreadytaken · 07/09/2025 08:22

Fucketydodah · 06/09/2025 18:55

Some really horrid comments here. Strange isn’t it how a working class woman is treated so differently…. the sexist vitriol she had had to deal with over the years sickens me. And those commenting that she is “thick”, is that a comment on her accent? It can’t possibly be on her achievements can it?!!!

Were you asleep during the Boris/Patel/Cummings/Zahawi/Hunt years?

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usernamealreadytaken · 07/09/2025 08:25

Freysimo · 06/09/2025 19:06

Why does she need a flat in Hove anyway? She had grace and favour place in London and home in her constituency.

My guess would be the photographers camping outside AH to catch on/off boyfriend Sam Tarry living there for free and leaving for work in the morning might have been a little embarrassing for the government.

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usernamealreadytaken · 07/09/2025 08:28

cheziebabe · 06/09/2025 20:12

I dont like the woman but I have to admit I understand why she thought she was right in what she paid.
she had a quarter share in the family home which she sold to the trust that owned the other 3/4. thinking this left her owning no property and so eligible for the cgt she paid.
no one would have imagined that supervising her sons income and investments til he is 18 would negate this and leave her liable for 40k extra.
she took it at face value as I would have.
it seemed simple.
I cant blame her for wanting her own home and that it was an 800k flat is irrelevant. probably unaffordable now as her pay will drop and she'll have to rent a london flat as she won't have a grace and favour home there now. its gone with he old job.
dont like her but I understand it wasn't deliberate and won't use it as a way to question her morals. she must have been shocked. I doubt she thought her sons trust had any bearing as it was his money not hers.

The trust owned 50%. MR retains his 25% share, presumably because he still lives with his children and doesnt need to release the equity so he can move away.

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Satisfiedwithanapple · 07/09/2025 08:28

usernamealreadytaken · 07/09/2025 08:25

My guess would be the photographers camping outside AH to catch on/off boyfriend Sam Tarry living there for free and leaving for work in the morning might have been a little embarrassing for the government.

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It’s completely reasonable that as she’s divorced she wants a property that she actually owns. Most people would.

pilates · 07/09/2025 08:31

No witch hunt- she fucked up and got found out. Nice bit of whataboutery on here too.

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usernamealreadytaken · 07/09/2025 08:34

broney · 06/09/2025 21:50

Good God, can you HEAR yourselves?

This is a TOTAL witch-hunt by the right-wing. She has been the subject of tory smear-campaigns ever since she appeared on the Labour front-bench. A Working-Class, Northern, WOMAN, who grew up in a council-house, has reached the highest office. And the millionaires and old-Etonians who control the conservative party cannot bear the fact.
She has a complex family setup, with a severely disabled child, and has been FORCED to "go public" with the details of the financial arrangements they have made to ensure that child is provided for in the future.

I thought this was MUMS-net? We should all be sticking up for her! After all the scrutiny she's been under for several years now, do you HONESTLY think she would do anything REMOTELY dodgy? She was given incorrect financial advice, that is ALL!

So you think the ethics committee acted unethically in finding that she had actually breached the Ministerial Code? She was actually innocent and the (apparently) non-partisan independent ethics advisor, because you think its all down to the Nasty Tories? We should all blindly support her just because she gave birth? Give your head a wobble!

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Satisfiedwithanapple · 07/09/2025 08:39

usernamealreadytaken · 07/09/2025 08:22

Were you asleep during the Boris/Patel/Cummings/Zahawi/Hunt years?

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But they are evil and right wing, so deserve everything they get.

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usernamealreadytaken · 07/09/2025 08:41

Shakeoffyourchains · 07/09/2025 00:39

Back in November 2024, when asked how often he’d been to Clacton, Farage said “I’ve just exchanged contracts on a house, I’ll be living there full-time, is that good enough?” He repeated the claim, confirming that he had bought a house in Clacton, on Nick Ferrari’s show in January 2025.

But turns out he never bought the place, he doesn’t live there full-time, and he’s now admitted he was wrong to say otherwise. So even if it's not a tax dodge it does mean he’s lied to the public, repeatedly, which is a clear breach of Section C, the Seven Principles of Public Life, which state that MPs must be truthful.

So, if we’re all about holding MPs to the highest standards, it’s only fair he reports himself to the ethics committee and offers his resignation if found to have breached the code, no?

But don't worry, we all know you’ll twist yourself in knots to avoid criticising the dear leader, so we'll just enjoy watching the mental gymnastics as to why Nigel’s different, or maybe we'll get treated to some whataboutery instead 🤔😅

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Perhaps he just wanted to protect his partner from the media, you know, like the reason Rayner lied? Because at the end of the day, it was nobody else’s business, until tax evasion comes in to play.

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cardibach · 07/09/2025 09:11

KhakiTiger · 07/09/2025 00:52

You could make a case to prove the point that you want to debate. It you haven’t as yet. If ‘I can’t win’ is your best argument, then it’s not much of a debate, is it. Which is what you wanted to have.

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No, I wanted a respectful exploration of our views, not to be constantly put down with no argument. Fine, you don’t want that. Let’s leave it.

tommyhoundmum · 07/09/2025 09:18

usernamealreadytaken · 07/09/2025 08:17

Given that the trust was set up by a very reputable organisation, I’d find that very hard to believe!

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Perhaps it was, but they don't advise on tax matters and to get any advice out of the tax office can take months.