To think this is a really awful thing to say? Tw

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Referring to children who don’t have behavioural issues or SEND as ‘normal’ children?

Unless you work with it, or live with it, how often does it actually get rammed down your throat? How often have you had to “suffer” because people with disabilities exist?

You are being judgemental @Osirus.

I had no idea DC had autism when he was little. It was obvious in hindsight, but I didn’t know anything about autism then. We had two more children before he was diagnosed four years later.

So many reasons:

• twins
• close age gap
• eldest child has lower support needs, but second child has very high support needs (see this a lot - I believe I read an article once on the medical reasons behind this)
• first child's difficulties don't become fully apparent until later (usually due to rigid expectations at school)
• parents themselves are neurodivergent and their children appear typical to them
• first child was premature so parents believe all the disabilities are down to that and then find out subsequent children are also neurodivergent
• because they want to and enjoy their children and thank God we don't prevent people with disabled children having more children because that would be eugenics
• contraceptive failures.

I work in the NHS so it’s rammed down my throat.
I also have children in preschool and school…. So you could say every day!!!!

Find another job then, if the sheer existence of some of your service users frustrates you so much.

I think you're in the wrong job then.

Never said it furiates me at me…. Im just saying to people like OP….Get over it. People may mis use terminology all the time, it doesn’t mean they are bad people. That was my point, which you didn’t seem to grasp.

Well that's the NHS for you don't worry, they will soon have more newer terminology to ram down your throat
When I worked in the NHS,we went through various terminology phases at one point everyone was cascading information and escalating incidences
And signing off Emails with kind regards.

Absolutely not… but thank you for your silly comment!! It made me laugh!! lol

Your first comment was very nasty @OnetwoThree123456.

The whole world doesn’t have to suffer because of their problems etc etc

Just because someone was talking about preferred terminology. It’s an overreaction and completely unsympathetic. Not ideal in someone working for the NHS.

Apparently that's hilarious 😐

You are misconstruing what I have said. I have said in following posts..
People may mis use terminology all the time, it doesn’t mean they are bad people. That was my point, which you didn’t seem to grasp.
people become too overly sensitive when they might misuse terminology, and as I said if it isn’t meant to be malicious then I don’t see a problem. Yes it may not be accurately described and could come across as uneducated (mostly for other terminologies though)
but in my experience I don’t think people mean harm.

If that’s what you meant, why didn’t you say that? Instead of your revolting diatribe about having SEND ‘rammed down your throat’?

I did, you are picking up on specific words without the whole context. I suggest you re read what I said and following posts as you haven’t read it properly.

I have read it properly and I stand by my opinion. You can’t just tell people to ignore the vile things you said and only concentrate on the other stuff 🤷🏻‍♀️

To add, we are all entitled to opinions. It can be different to yours and just because you don’t agree with something doesn’t mean you have to be nasty.

I have absolutely not been ‘nasty’.

I work in the nhs and lead on the accessible information standard - setting up the plan to ensure all colleagues understand how to identify and offer appropriate support and information for patients with communication needs. We’re currently terrible at making adjustments so yes, I’ll keep “ramming it down colleagues’ throats” and giving those patients a voice until we are consistently offering equal care and improving the outcomes of those patients affected by communication challenges. It’s called reducing inequalities. I suggest you leave the nhs because your attitude doesn’t belong in the nhs.

There's a real irony to this.

Doesn't 'normal' just mean 'typical'?

What should people say to describe children who are not neurodiverse?

Agree. Also, language is important, we don't go around calling people r**ds for a reason.

I'm not saying slipping up and using 'normal' is that bad (doesn't bother me), but using preferred language and terminology changing is not pathetic, it's important!

Typical? You sort of answered your own question there.
‘Abnormal’ has negative connotations that ‘atypical’ doesn’t (someone helpfully posted the dictionary definitions upthread which confirms this), so it follows that ‘typical’ is probably a better word to use than ‘normal’.

I agree that if people don’t use the right terminology that doesn’t mean they are bad people. I said the same upthread.

If that was the only point you wanted to make then you made it exceptionally badly.

There was absolutely no need for the comments re the whole world not having to suffer because of disabled people’s problems, and so on.

I didn’t misconstrue what you said.
You said it.
If you didn’t mean it that’s your error, not mine.

Absolutely, and it changes - all language does. I’ve always learned that people are people first so they are “a person with dyslexia” rather than dyslexic. However, new guidance this summer teaches us (after working with autistic people) that this group prefers “autistic person” not “person with autism”. The argument for the change being their autism is part of them and not an accessory. I wonder if it’s due to the black and white nature autistic people have to see the world so they prefer the simplicity. As such, I’ve learned and adapted my language.

Maybe you shouldn’t have hidden your point in an inflammatory rant full of emotive language then? No matter how much you try to backtrack now, your words gave you away.