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DSD picking newborn up and putting him back in Moses basket

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Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 07:19

My DSD (12) was visiting, our newborn is 4 weeks old and still has a delicate neck. I am happy with DSD holding her brother as long as one of us has put him in a position that keeps his neck supported. She will hold him from time to time if we are in another room.

However to my horror the other day I saw her taking him out of his Moses basket and putting him back.

Am I being unreasonable in that I feel that’s a step too far?

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TammyJones · 02/09/2025 08:58

Falseknock · 02/09/2025 08:32

There are some woke midwifes out there today. That has never been said to me. More pressure on being the perfect mother.

I’ve never heard that.
But realistically how many people would feed the baby?
mum , dad, Granny / childminder?
Maybe add on older sibling?
So 4 at most.
Surely as long as baby was fed, winded , and dry (and held in a lo being way) baby would be happy ?

Balloonhearts · 02/09/2025 08:59

This is absolutely ridiculous. Just show her how to lift him properly. Her baby brother was screaming his lungs out so she picked him up. It's insane that a 12 year old isn't allowed to pick up a baby. She didn't do it right, so show her! My 7 year old managed to safely pick up his newborn sibling! She's 12, not 2.

As for the feeding thing...Jesus... PFB?

Maddy70 · 02/09/2025 09:00

Show her properly how to hold the baby ps babies are not nearly as delicate as first mum's think they are. I was so careful with my first , subsequent children got bounced around by their siblings like you wouldn't believe.

Nanny0gg · 02/09/2025 09:00

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 08:26

@Falseknock my midwife said for the “4th trimester” whilst baby figures out the world and who is who, to keep feeding to just the two of us. So that he can associate our smell with being fed and identify us as his care givers. Apparently passing them around to everyone and letting different people do things such as feeding can cause babies to be overstimulated and confused… ultimately leading to a terrible couple of days restlessness

Actually, ignoring all the waffle, I think it's perfectly reasonable for the parents to do the feeding.

It would be the case for breastfeeding and at least with the bottle the father can be involved.

And it's a moment of calm - if the mother is doing it at least she's having a sit down and rest rather than doing jobs

It doesn't need 'scientific' approval - it's the parent's 'job' till the baby is older.

I felt quite privileged the first time I could feed one of my DGC but it didn't kill me to wait

Delphiniumandlupins · 02/09/2025 09:01

Where2GoNext · 02/09/2025 08:50

OP is right, this is what is taught and encouraged now. It comes from the UNICEF Baby Friendly Guidance

Responsive-Feeding-Infosheet-Unicef-UK-Baby-Friendly-Initiative.pdf https://share.google/Zvmop44CyqCnmY1YL

(Edited to sort out link)

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...supporting parents to give most of the feeds themselves....

Not the same as saying an occasional visitor should never give a feed.

Heartsonfire · 02/09/2025 09:02

Duechristmas · 02/09/2025 08:53

He's really not as delicate as you think he is.

Oh shut up. He’s a 4 week old baby. She has every right to be concerned about his neck. Just because you ragged your baby about and it was okay, doesn’t mean it’s normal! He’s 4 weeks old for christs sake. Some of you lot are worrying.

DolphinOnASkateboard · 02/09/2025 09:02

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 07:28

we have no issues here holding the baby.

its the safe removal and putting down of the child whilst he’s still so delicate.

No she did not which completely took me back, I didn’t want to embarrass her by explaining what she had done as she’s quite sensitive but neither of us have ever shown her how to do it either

So you've never taught her how to do something correctly and now you're cross that she's doing it wrong?

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 09:05

@Balloonhearts was screaming after being picked up? Not reason he was being picked up

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Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 09:06

@TammyJones my son has colic so unfortunately nothing anyone says regarding feeding will change my mind on it being parents only.

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SomeOfTheTrouble · 02/09/2025 09:06

If you’re not comfortable with it then speak to her. There’s nothing we can do about it.

Rayqueen · 02/09/2025 09:06

Being unreasonable my oldest daughter's are 7 and they merrily carry around there twin sisters who adore the attention, sons are older 11.13.15 and all carry them aswell. Not sure what the problem is for you tbh

SomeOfTheTrouble · 02/09/2025 09:09

Rayqueen · 02/09/2025 09:06

Being unreasonable my oldest daughter's are 7 and they merrily carry around there twin sisters who adore the attention, sons are older 11.13.15 and all carry them aswell. Not sure what the problem is for you tbh

I think the problem is that the OP hasn’t taught her to pick the baby up properly, and is now upset that she didn’t pick the baby up properly 🤦🏻‍♀️.
OP all this could be solved by talking to her. ‘We’d rather you didn’t pick him up until he’s a bit older and stronger’, or ‘this is the correct way to pick up a newborn’, or ‘here’s how to do it, but please only do it when we’re supervising’. How else is a 12 year old going to learn what they can or can’t do, if the adults involved in their care don’t tell them?

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 09:11

@Falseknock I’m aware what forum I’m posting on, however this is the old “well I did it this way and my kids are fine” line.

Infact just because it’s how you raised your child, doesn’t mean others can’t follow the advice they are given.

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Maddy70 · 02/09/2025 09:11

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 08:26

@Falseknock my midwife said for the “4th trimester” whilst baby figures out the world and who is who, to keep feeding to just the two of us. So that he can associate our smell with being fed and identify us as his care givers. Apparently passing them around to everyone and letting different people do things such as feeding can cause babies to be overstimulated and confused… ultimately leading to a terrible couple of days restlessness

Your midwife is a quack utter nonsense

BreadstickBurglar · 02/09/2025 09:12

I think just take a step back, she is clearly interested in the baby which is a good thing, show her and the other child how to lift the baby properly. There are middle aged men out there who don’t know how to do that as they’ve never been shown.

In the old days your 12 year old might have been looking after the baby while you were at work! Glad we’re not in that situation now but they are often pretty capable when shown what to do. My friend’s 9 year old was brilliant with my baby because she has baby cousins and had been given “the training” 😊

SENMum1727 · 02/09/2025 09:14

OP ignore the horrible posts - they are just trying to bait and upset you and make you respond. Most mums would agree you should listen to your midwife on any advice on feeding.

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 09:15

@BoredZelda i actually think you’ve just not read through the post
we didnt teach either kids, because we didn’t want them picking son up until he was able to hold his neck himself.
i tagged the person because they posted on as post and I agreed with what they said.

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Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 09:15

@Maddy70 so count your lucky stars she wasn’t yours then hey!

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Cheesyfootballs01 · 02/09/2025 09:20

So @Pinkpetal9999 , after all your updates are you going to just sit both your kids down and say that only you and daddy are allowed to pick the baby up while she is young??

If you can’t do that why not ask the HV to say something when they visit?

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 09:20

@Heartsonfire one of the few posts I am going to take advice on, thank you for reading the post properly and with a bit of empathy/undestanding from a cautious parent!

I think the not showing them probably wasn’t the greatest idea and you are right just explain not for now but when he’s a bit stronger it will be fine.

he’s so so delicate, so people are WILD for saying any different. My brother and father both of which have children didn’t want to hold him for the first few weeks because they were worried they were going to break him. Just because these posters allow their other children to man handle their precious delicate baby, doesn’t mean I have to.

thanks for the advice again!

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amtrying · 02/09/2025 09:20

Blessthismess2 · 02/09/2025 07:59

I can understand why the poor child might feel upset and embarrassed in this context- if such an innocent, harmless act could invoke such “horror” in her step mum. She must feel like she’s walking on eggshells. 😔

My thoughts completely . OP doesn’t come across as an approachable lady.
A 12 year old is more than capable of holding a newborn after being shown the correct way l.

Soontobesingles · 02/09/2025 09:21

This thread is ridiculous. Of course a stepchild who doesn’t live in the home full time is ‘visiting’. That’s how most people see it, including the child.

I would also be uncomfortable with any child picking up my newborn unsupervised - but you do need to say something to her. She won’t know the rules if you don’t express the rules.

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 09:22

@Cheesyfootballs01 so sifting through the utter sh*te I’ve received, following the more helpful posts.
yes a sit down and explanation will happen with both kids in a better manner than what has been

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RedwallMattimeo · 02/09/2025 09:23

Surely in that situation you say something like “thank you for giving him a cuddle. We have to be quite protective whilst he’s so young. Let me show you the safest way to do it”.

Are you not involving her in bath time, nappy changes and all of those sorts of things? What about letting her take the baby for a walk in the pram by herself? If you’re not ebf, are you showing her how to make up bottles and give the baby a bottle?
Two of my cousins are 11yrs & 13yrs younger than me. They lived 200 miles away but we saw them relatively often and either stayed with them or they stayed with us. When my own DC were born, I realised any child rearing knowledge I had was based on seeing and being involved in looking after them. And yes, that had involved taking the youngest out for a walk up & down the road when she was really unsettled. And helping give her a bath. I was certainly getting them out of the moses basket when they were very little.

Pinkpetal9999 · 02/09/2025 09:24

@amtrying this is absolutely hilarious, approachable? You’ve have read at most a page worth of me talking, how on gods earth would you be able to come to that conclusion.

Jesus Christ, my son is not the only delicate one it would seem.

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