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Friend helped herself to my birthday cake - is she ill or rude?

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Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 09:04

I had a birthday party as a fundraiser for a charity on Saturday. I invited all my favourite people plus a friend who has been behaving oddly and has been rude and abrupt recently.
We had a live band and planned a cold buffet during the interval. Timings were band started at 7pm, supper at 8pm then more music and dancing.
At 7.45pm the strange friend approached DH and told him some people were very hungry and the food should be served now! He explained it would be soon.
I took the covers off the buffet at 7.50pm. She happily dived in and filled a big plateful. At 8.45pm the band played happy birthday, I blew out the candles, and took out a knife to cut the (huge and beautifully decorated) cake. I went to fetch some napkins to serve the slices on. As I turned to the cake I saw SF pick up the knife and hack a big triangular slice for herself from the front. She made off with it to her table. We were all astonished and have been trying to understand why she thought this was appropriate behaviour.
For info she is 70, a highly educated professional, but socially awkward. She has been becoming increasingly impatient and anxious in cafes and hotels at meal times wanting to get in as soon as the doors are open and wanting to be served first. She sometimes takes other people’s orders if they arrive before hers eg a cappuccino
AIBU - yes she is unwell and you should be compassionate - no she was rude and behaving like a greedy toddler.

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sc0ttishlass · 02/09/2025 06:29

I cant believe all of the people saying you are making a fuss about this. In my experience thr serving of the buffet is perfect timing. Would never expect it the minute you arrived!
The cake cutting is very very rude. If nothing else you could have a) wanted photos or b) what if that wasnt even the cake you were serving but instead you had popped away to get a tray of cut up cake and save that on for your family. It's very rude behaviour from your friend.

TorroFerney · 02/09/2025 07:38

Penfoldfive · 01/09/2025 19:28

I'm probably unusual here but I don’t think I've ever been to a birthday party for adults with a cake, apart from immediate family. My circle of friends don't go in for events.

I'd have no idea about cake etiquette etc.

I've been to lots of church buffets where you just help yourself to cake - although I'd probably guess it was different for a "posh" cake.

Yes, that’s part of the buffet, it’s not got candles on I suppose.

tommyhoundmum · 02/09/2025 07:43

MummyJ36 · 01/09/2025 20:44

why is everyone infantilising this woman?? Honestly if she clearly saw that the food would start at 8pm and she thought she might be hungry before then, she had the option to bring herself a snack! Her behaviour may well be down to neurodiversity or cognitive decline, but I’ve known a couple of supremely cheeky f**kers who do this type of stuff for no other reason than actual greed. It is not your responsibly to open up the buffet early because she can’t wait 10 minutes, or allow her to slice into your birthday cake because she was too impatient. I’m a very non confrontational person but bloody hell this would have really annoyed me. Unless she’s a super good friend I would just phase her out as she sounds pretty insufferable.

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honeylulu · 02/09/2025 07:50

The hacking a lump out of the front of the pristine cake reminds me of the pic of Suella Braverman's wedding (just why???)

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Friend helped herself to my birthday cake - is she ill or rude?
Justthethingsthatyoudointhisgarden · 02/09/2025 11:02

People are giving you the obvious answer which you are ignoring. You state this strange behaviour is recent. She's 70. She needs to see a GP.

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Cloanie · 02/09/2025 13:24

I’ve started to feel as though I’d really enjoy wading into a cake inappropriately at a formal occasion, reading this thread. Alarmingly, I’m going to a wedding this month. I hope I contain the impulse. It sounds kind of enjoyable. Isn’t there a cake smashing trend? Or has that been and gone.

thecatdidit · 02/09/2025 13:32

You're coming across as a kind and thoughtful person @Topofthecliffs . How lovely to donate to charity rather than asking for gifts for yourself. Fwiw I love receiving presents (and don't like throwing parties.!)
Some posters have delighted in taking the wind out of your sails.
I hope your sports friend gets the necessary help she seems to need.

Cara707 · 02/09/2025 13:36

I think this could be an early dementia symptom. It sounds like she is quite disinhibited and this sounds a bit like 'Utilization' behaviour (which involves using an object for its purpose (i.e. knife to cut cake) regardless of whether it is appropriate or socially acceptable).

Glitchymn1 · 02/09/2025 13:41

Well it’s clearly very rude but also very odd behaviour. It sounds like the start of something to me, dementia etc. Nobody in their right mind would do that, because everyone will be staring and gossiping about it. I hope you managed to enjoy your cake and get a nice photo.

Firststop · 02/09/2025 14:00

I don't think cutting a cake that's on a buffet table is that odd.

I do think laying out a buffet but, not letting anyone have it until a prescribed time is odd.

Backfromholareyou · 02/09/2025 14:45

honeylulu · 02/09/2025 07:50

The hacking a lump out of the front of the pristine cake reminds me of the pic of Suella Braverman's wedding (just why???)

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So guests would know it was a fruitcake

tommyhoundmum · 02/09/2025 14:46

Firststop · 02/09/2025 14:00

I don't think cutting a cake that's on a buffet table is that odd.

I do think laying out a buffet but, not letting anyone have it until a prescribed time is odd.

It is usual for the birthday person to cut their own cake and again a timed buffet is not unusual. In that way, everyone has the chance to sample all the food.

Ratafia · 02/09/2025 15:30

LeopardPrintLipstick · 01/09/2025 09:26

The cake was to be cut and eaten, she cut some and ate it. I don’t really think thats rude presumably she saw the knife and thought it was a help yourself situation.
My MIL gets really odd about cake and cake portions, she always asks for help cutting it then gets antsy about the size of the slices. My kids call her the Cake Keeper!

If you have concerns about her behaving differently than that is a separate issue, does she have any family you could speak to.

Oh, come off it. OP had been standing there with the knife preparatory to cutting the cake, which is the traditional thing to do at birthday parties. You wait for her to do that and to be offered a slice, you don't swan in and grab one for yourself. There's a bit of a clue in the fact that it's a pristine cake and no-one else has come up to get a slice.

I'd be wondering if friend's behaviour is down to early dementia. What do other friends think?

lavendermilkshake · 03/09/2025 00:55

Ratafia · 02/09/2025 15:30

Oh, come off it. OP had been standing there with the knife preparatory to cutting the cake, which is the traditional thing to do at birthday parties. You wait for her to do that and to be offered a slice, you don't swan in and grab one for yourself. There's a bit of a clue in the fact that it's a pristine cake and no-one else has come up to get a slice.

I'd be wondering if friend's behaviour is down to early dementia. What do other friends think?

Oh, come off it. OP had been standing there with the knife preparatory to cutting the cake ... There's a bit of a clue in the fact that it's a pristine cake

OP had she said made the birthday wish cut - she calls it the 'incision'. Therefore it wasn't a 'pristine' cake. And she wasn't standing there with the knife, she had gone to get some napkins.

Ratafia · 03/09/2025 08:35

lavendermilkshake · 03/09/2025 00:55

Oh, come off it. OP had been standing there with the knife preparatory to cutting the cake ... There's a bit of a clue in the fact that it's a pristine cake

OP had she said made the birthday wish cut - she calls it the 'incision'. Therefore it wasn't a 'pristine' cake. And she wasn't standing there with the knife, she had gone to get some napkins.

Nevertheless, any fule kno that in that situation you don't seize the knife and go and hack a hefty slice for yourself.

TorroFerney · 03/09/2025 12:24

tommyhoundmum · 02/09/2025 07:43

This

I think it shows how badly you can behave and no one say anything. It’s a lesson to all us people pleasers or those with the tendency !

FormidableMizzP · 03/09/2025 13:23

YANBU. It sounds like she has early stage Parkinson's (not all sufferers get the shakes), or Dementia. That would account for her changes in behaviour and appetite. My Mum has late stage Dementia and has been craving cakes yet weirdly, complains other things taste too sweet.

Eating at 8pm is not at all late, and people were told, so had the choice to eat before they came. I just cannot believe how some people complain and whine like children about these things at functions, its so rude.

FormidableMizzP · 03/09/2025 13:55

KimHwn · 01/09/2025 11:44

I must be in the minority because if you'd had all the fuss (a band playing happy birthday!) and had blown out the candles, I'd say the cake was then available for eating, no?
I'm not sure what you mean by "hacking" the cake either- Do you mean she cut the cake, or did she actually hack it into pieces?
I think my experience of birthday parties must be a lot more laid back than yours. I thought you were going to say she took a slice before you blew the candles!

The cake was not 'available', it was a proper function and that was extremely rude.

Even at home we let the birthday person cut the cake and pass it round. At a party you absolutely wait until it's been cut up and offered round or invited to help yourself. Everyone else managed to wait. It's called manners. And basic ones at that.

FormidableMizzP · 03/09/2025 14:00

TorroFerney · 02/09/2025 07:38

Yes, that’s part of the buffet, it’s not got candles on I suppose.

Exactly. Entirely different. Cake as a buffet dessert, is not a birthday cake!

Corfumanchu · 03/09/2025 14:08

FormidableMizzP · 03/09/2025 13:55

The cake was not 'available', it was a proper function and that was extremely rude.

Even at home we let the birthday person cut the cake and pass it round. At a party you absolutely wait until it's been cut up and offered round or invited to help yourself. Everyone else managed to wait. It's called manners. And basic ones at that.

They had sumg happy birthday, put out a knife and the birthday girl disappeared. I don't think thetes anu universal rule that applies here

thatsgotit · 03/09/2025 15:36

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Ah, OK, thanks for clarifying. I didn't read it that way initially.

thatsgotit · 03/09/2025 15:39

Corfumanchu · 03/09/2025 14:08

They had sumg happy birthday, put out a knife and the birthday girl disappeared. I don't think thetes anu universal rule that applies here

I'd have thought most people know you don't start cutting into a birthday cake before the birthday person. It's pretty much a no-brainer really.

Gwenhwyfar · 03/09/2025 19:01

nomas · 01/09/2025 19:17

Cake needs to be apportioned by hosts, no one else knows how many it needs to feed. You can’t just hack off a huge chunk for yourself.

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What do you mean by no one else knows how many people are there? Surely everyone can see this?

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