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Friend helped herself to my birthday cake - is she ill or rude?

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Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 09:04

I had a birthday party as a fundraiser for a charity on Saturday. I invited all my favourite people plus a friend who has been behaving oddly and has been rude and abrupt recently.
We had a live band and planned a cold buffet during the interval. Timings were band started at 7pm, supper at 8pm then more music and dancing.
At 7.45pm the strange friend approached DH and told him some people were very hungry and the food should be served now! He explained it would be soon.
I took the covers off the buffet at 7.50pm. She happily dived in and filled a big plateful. At 8.45pm the band played happy birthday, I blew out the candles, and took out a knife to cut the (huge and beautifully decorated) cake. I went to fetch some napkins to serve the slices on. As I turned to the cake I saw SF pick up the knife and hack a big triangular slice for herself from the front. She made off with it to her table. We were all astonished and have been trying to understand why she thought this was appropriate behaviour.
For info she is 70, a highly educated professional, but socially awkward. She has been becoming increasingly impatient and anxious in cafes and hotels at meal times wanting to get in as soon as the doors are open and wanting to be served first. She sometimes takes other people’s orders if they arrive before hers eg a cappuccino
AIBU - yes she is unwell and you should be compassionate - no she was rude and behaving like a greedy toddler.

OP posts:
Lougle · 01/09/2025 19:15

Gwenhwyfar · 01/09/2025 19:10

What's the big deal though? She would have been given a slice anyway wouldn't she? The only thing is that she didn't wait for OP to slice it. I can't see it as a big problem.

She took a big wedge. If she had waited, she would have been given, likely, a small rectangle of cake. It's very different.

nomas · 01/09/2025 19:17

Gwenhwyfar · 01/09/2025 19:10

What's the big deal though? She would have been given a slice anyway wouldn't she? The only thing is that she didn't wait for OP to slice it. I can't see it as a big problem.

Cake needs to be apportioned by hosts, no one else knows how many it needs to feed. You can’t just hack off a huge chunk for yourself.

tommyhoundmum · 01/09/2025 19:19

Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 09:23

To be clear I had published the timings in advance so people knew food was at 8 pm. The cake was pristine until she hacked it.
I have challenged her before when she pinches my coffee but she is not at all self aware.

I couldn't have a friend like that. You are being very understanding

Penfoldfive · 01/09/2025 19:28

TorroFerney · 01/09/2025 18:37

Agree - where do we all stand on funerals? if a funeral is at half eleven and you usually eat at 12 do you all complain that food is served at the wrong time and drive at 90 miles an hour from the crem and take the clingfilm off the pork pies before the dead persons family arrive ?

I've also got to 53 and been to a lot of parties and never seen anyone cut the cake unless they are the host or their family or they've asked say at a restaurant do you want me to cut the cake - and they cut it into a lot of slices, not just for themselves. I hadn't appreciated that most people were just waiting for a chance to cut themselves a slice if it wasn't cut and served quickly enough for their liking.

I'm probably unusual here but I don’t think I've ever been to a birthday party for adults with a cake, apart from immediate family. My circle of friends don't go in for events.

I'd have no idea about cake etiquette etc.

I've been to lots of church buffets where you just help yourself to cake - although I'd probably guess it was different for a "posh" cake.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/09/2025 19:31

WitchesofPainswick · 01/09/2025 09:09

You'd cut the cake already and cut slices - it's pretty normal to do that for your table at that point, I would have thought? I would do the same. Wouldn't expect the birthday girl to stand there for ages serving her own cake!

Also yes, 8pm is late to serve food, especially for older people (I eat around 6).

OP didn’t say she’d cut the cake, she said she picked up the knife to cut it and then went to get napkins to serve slices on. Sounds as though the friend got the knife and cut into it before OP had a chance.

Rosscameasdoody · 01/09/2025 19:36

Judithdances · 01/09/2025 18:48

The fundraiser aspect was not a paid ticket event. It was simply that I asked people to support a particular charity instead of giving me gifts,

any idea how much your guests donated op?

Why does it matter ?

Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 19:45

Ramblethroughthebrambles · 01/09/2025 17:08

Cognitive decline could exacerbate previous tendencies to ignore social norms, particularly if there's frontal lobe damage which can also contribute to disinhibition & loss of self-control. Others have suggested an overactive thyroid which is worth considering too, as it can cause excessive hunger, weight loss and anxiety. However, is it possible that money worries are an issue too? Is she starving herself when she knows she will be going out to eat, to save money?

It seems unlikely that she has money worries given her successful professional career and her lifestyle but we never know what goes on behind the scenes.

OP posts:
Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 19:53

mathanxiety · 01/09/2025 19:02

So it's not new behaviour, but she has become less inhibited about it, and you have a hunch it's related to anxiety. I'd say she needs to see a doctor, but I'd also say she feels perfectly justified in her strange behaviour around food.

How much do you know about the rest of her life?

I know quite a lot but don’t want to put identifying details here. She is a very active sportswoman, disapproves of alcohol and smoking, and is quite puritan in her outlook. Her DH is a lovely man, and does all the cooking and cleaning at home. I am sure he is aware there is something wrong. I will have a quiet word with him.

OP posts:
Judithdances · 01/09/2025 19:59

Rosscameasdoody · 01/09/2025 19:36

Why does it matter ?

Because the op she’s a shit tonne of money by the sounds of it
and I’m curious whether the guests donated generously

Judithdances · 01/09/2025 19:59

Isn’t this outing op?

not many people hold large fundraisers for their birthday party

With a live band and starving guests!

Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 20:01

Judithdances · 01/09/2025 19:59

Isn’t this outing op?

not many people hold large fundraisers for their birthday party

With a live band and starving guests!

Edited

You are coming across as rather strange. Are you okay? 😂

OP posts:
Judithdances · 01/09/2025 20:02

Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 18:55

Yes that is correct. I didn’t want presents and I don’t drink alcohol so I set up a JustGiving page for a good charity and had a cash collection box. It’s irrelevant to the AIBU how much we made, but as you are being nosy it was around £430. What difference does that make?

Heavens
presumably you spent far more on the party

so you have revealed a lot about this party op
surely one of the attendees is on mumsnet
seems very outing to me

Judithdances · 01/09/2025 20:03

Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 20:01

You are coming across as rather strange. Are you okay? 😂

🙄

“are you okay”

let me guess, I’m triggered? Projecting? A narcissist?

OP it’s you that’s been on mumsnet all day posting about your friend and a slice of cake 😆

tsmainsqueeze · 01/09/2025 20:03

ComfortFoodCafe · 01/09/2025 09:06

I dont think she was unwell, sounds like she was hungry. Yabu to wait till nearly 8pm to serve food.

Of course yanbu to serve food at 8pm 🙄
Her behaviour was rude but as she is behaving differently of late i would be thinking all is not well with her ,she may have no idea , does she have family or someone close who you could express your concerns to ?

AllrightNowBaby · 01/09/2025 20:06

Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 19:53

I know quite a lot but don’t want to put identifying details here. She is a very active sportswoman, disapproves of alcohol and smoking, and is quite puritan in her outlook. Her DH is a lovely man, and does all the cooking and cleaning at home. I am sure he is aware there is something wrong. I will have a quiet word with him.

Do NOT have a quiet word with the husband.
I’m beginning to think it’s you who is
“ill or rude”, obsessing about how full this “friends” plate was at the buffet and rankling on and on about her cutting herself a piece of cake.
A piece of cake fgs.
Let it go OP.

Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 20:07

Judithdances · 01/09/2025 20:03

🙄

“are you okay”

let me guess, I’m triggered? Projecting? A narcissist?

OP it’s you that’s been on mumsnet all day posting about your friend and a slice of cake 😆

Edited

It was a joke! It’s none of your business how I celebrate my birthday and with whom. I shall go and eat my very late supper now as it is past 8pm and I should have eaten it at 5.40pm apparently.

OP posts:
Judithdances · 01/09/2025 20:08

Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 20:07

It was a joke! It’s none of your business how I celebrate my birthday and with whom. I shall go and eat my very late supper now as it is past 8pm and I should have eaten it at 5.40pm apparently.

Goodness OP, you sound a bit, scary.

Im worried for this friend now! 😆

Judithdances · 01/09/2025 20:09

Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 20:07

It was a joke! It’s none of your business how I celebrate my birthday and with whom. I shall go and eat my very late supper now as it is past 8pm and I should have eaten it at 5.40pm apparently.

Eat it whenever you want
and perhaps next time for your birthday, donate the money yourself and then buy yourself a big birthday cake and scoff it in your supermarket car park as at you sit in your car alone.

Leilaandtheloggerheads · 01/09/2025 20:17

JacquelineHigh · 01/09/2025 15:00

@Leilaandtheloggerheads

It’s perfectly clear in the OP. Can you quote the part that says the cake was cut?

It’s in a later post by the OP, hence I said she clarified. Click “see all”. It’s a few up from your own snotty post if that helps.

Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 20:18

AllrightNowBaby · 01/09/2025 20:06

Do NOT have a quiet word with the husband.
I’m beginning to think it’s you who is
“ill or rude”, obsessing about how full this “friends” plate was at the buffet and rankling on and on about her cutting herself a piece of cake.
A piece of cake fgs.
Let it go OP.

Good idea. I’m out now. Thanks to all those who were helpful.

OP posts:
MrsDoubtfire1 · 01/09/2025 20:25

Sorry, but it sounds like your friend is starting to have some sort of elderly decline. I had a friend who became incredibly rude to the point I couldn't spend time anymore with her.

Oioisavaloy27 · 01/09/2025 20:29

GnomeDePlume · 01/09/2025 17:02

In the OP it was stated that the lady in question had already had a plate of food.

But it's a bit of cake all this fuss over a piece of cake.

CybeBond · 01/09/2025 20:35

Topofthecliffs · 01/09/2025 09:04

I had a birthday party as a fundraiser for a charity on Saturday. I invited all my favourite people plus a friend who has been behaving oddly and has been rude and abrupt recently.
We had a live band and planned a cold buffet during the interval. Timings were band started at 7pm, supper at 8pm then more music and dancing.
At 7.45pm the strange friend approached DH and told him some people were very hungry and the food should be served now! He explained it would be soon.
I took the covers off the buffet at 7.50pm. She happily dived in and filled a big plateful. At 8.45pm the band played happy birthday, I blew out the candles, and took out a knife to cut the (huge and beautifully decorated) cake. I went to fetch some napkins to serve the slices on. As I turned to the cake I saw SF pick up the knife and hack a big triangular slice for herself from the front. She made off with it to her table. We were all astonished and have been trying to understand why she thought this was appropriate behaviour.
For info she is 70, a highly educated professional, but socially awkward. She has been becoming increasingly impatient and anxious in cafes and hotels at meal times wanting to get in as soon as the doors are open and wanting to be served first. She sometimes takes other people’s orders if they arrive before hers eg a cappuccino
AIBU - yes she is unwell and you should be compassionate - no she was rude and behaving like a greedy toddler.

Oh wow 😮 , the audacity!
I think I’d still be in 😳 . Cutting the front of the cake too is next-level crime. Socially awkward or not, that’s one for the “you can’t make it up” book.
Honestly, after reading this thread I feel like we all deserve a little treat just for surviving other people’s behaviour 😅 Sometimes it’s the little unexpected wins that brighten a week.

MummyJ36 · 01/09/2025 20:44

why is everyone infantilising this woman?? Honestly if she clearly saw that the food would start at 8pm and she thought she might be hungry before then, she had the option to bring herself a snack! Her behaviour may well be down to neurodiversity or cognitive decline, but I’ve known a couple of supremely cheeky f**kers who do this type of stuff for no other reason than actual greed. It is not your responsibly to open up the buffet early because she can’t wait 10 minutes, or allow her to slice into your birthday cake because she was too impatient. I’m a very non confrontational person but bloody hell this would have really annoyed me. Unless she’s a super good friend I would just phase her out as she sounds pretty insufferable.

LittleGwyneth · 01/09/2025 20:47

I cannot believe the number of adult children on this thread who couldn't cope with eating at eight PM. How do you cope with going out for dinner? Or visiting Spain / France / Italy?!