Since when?

[McSteamyorMcdreamy]

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My DD starts year 7 next week. Local secondary. Nothing fancy.

She and we are respectful of uniform policy and have purchased everything we need to. She looks bloody smart and we (and she) can't wait for her to start.

As 11 year old girls will do, they have tried their whole set up in front of their friends and all of them said the same thing:

"You will get sent home with those shoes"

They throw detentions out for the most minor of uniform infractions and DD is now having a massive anxiety spiral that she's going to get a detention or worse sent home 1st day because of her shoes.

I spoke to a friend who works in the school office and showed her a picture and her response was "oooh, I'm not sure. Air Force 1s are the best way to go"

Since when have trainers been a smarter, more acceptable form of shoe than a patent loafer??!!!

For full disclosure she has chosen the Kickers Edie loafer as in the link

https://www.kickers.co.uk/adult-women-edie-loafer-patent-leather-black/14913640.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UK+-+Kickers+-+Search+-+Brand+-+Core+-+Broad&utm_term=kickers&utm_content=brand+-+Kickers&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20162340688&gbraid=0AAAAADiNwZXHWpJ1LFmAfTE2drVjkEy8k&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwsrFBhD6ARIsAPnUFD1w_j6Ufhx1cfFv1a1fF0Ageht-fZYRGu_xo9ofOilAOdjE7KgGjEgaAoLrEALw_wcb

This school stipulates that hair past chin lemgth needs to be in a ponytail with a hair band that is the closest colour to the individuals hair colour, yet believes that a trainer is smarter/more acceptable than the loafer.

AIBU here?! I know trainers are more acceptable these days but are they really considered smarter considering how rigid they are on the smaller items?!

They are not high heels! Yes ok not allowed under school policy etc but I have always found a shoe with a heel like that far more comfortable and supportive than flats. So stop all the - your DD won’t be able to walk from A to B etc. of course she will, but yes, you probably have to change them.

Those are heels and completely ridiculous for an 11yo. DD going into Y10 wouldn’t be allowed to wear shoes that style, not that I’d even buy them for her. AF1s are also banned but more likely to slip through.

I was going to say, I’m pretty sure I had that exact same pair in high school 😬 Your DD has great taste if nothing else OP!!

Why would a school waste everyone's time by trying to send kids home for wearing these shoes? And what if parents are yknow at fecking work ?

OP that’s not a loafer.. those are high heels. Of course they’re not allowed they’re about 3 inches high!

Get flat loafers.

Because there are standards of uniform and you need to obey them.

It’s a safety issue. Over cautious perhaps, but schools have to be.

Because the school will stipulate what colour hair band they can wear, but find trainers acceptable. I don't understand that.

I have taken onboard that the shoes we have got are wrong.

Yet I still stand by the fact that (irrespective of the height) the still look bloody smarter than a trainer

Both of my dc wear airforces for school. I think it’s great that the school allow black trainers. We do live rurally though and the roads get muddy from the tractors. Most of the school grounds is grass or woodland too

There’s a lot of options between airforce 1s and massive chunky heels. Just flat black school shoes. In DDs’ school they’re not allowed trainers but the nearby school does allow them but it’s mostly the boys who wear them. Maybe that’s just our area.

Wow, how do you think high heels are suitable? My God.

Most people wore shoes like that at school in the 90s and I don’t remember everyone dying from academic failure however, schools today like to execute power like Henry the 8th for no other reason than that they can. So, yeah, she’s probably gonna have an issue at school.

I did in year 11 but I wouldn’t have got away with it in year 7.

They were either kickers or Pods and all looked like that! All the way through school at mine! The boys all wore Rockports!

She’ll be more
comfortable though.

The heals are ridiculous

Again with the looks though?

It's a school, not a modelling academy.

Mine was a girls’ school and very strict re uniform.

The shoes are smart but they have really high heels. DD would be towering over her mates in trainers!

The heels are way too high. Dangerous on stairs

The Kickers are (high) heeled loafers although with a chunky block/square heel rather than a kitten, louis or stiletto heel. How can you not the heels are high? 🤦🏻‍♀️

Anything over an inch is considered a low heel. These are definitely higher than that. Don't school expect flat shoes/those with a heel that measures 2 cm at the most?

Most schools won't allow heels like that. Terrible for growing feet.

The AF1 wouldn't be allowed at ours either.

If the school weren't bothered about ‘looks’ they wouldn’t be stipulating the colour of a child hair bobble.

Sadly @McSteamyorMcdreamy it has been like this for some years now. My DC were at secondary school (in the second half of the noughties) and pupils were regularly sent home for having the 'wrong' shoes, the 'wrong' haircut, or the 'wrong' PE kit.

You could only have the standard issue stuff that THEY sold.. Eg you have to have their blazer that you have to pay £80 for, and you're not allowed the one that costs £8 from Asda or Tesco. Ditto the PE kit. No £10 kit from Tesco. Nope. You must buy the school's one that costs £60.

The schools and the makers of these 'official' clothes are making a fucking killing from hard done by parents who are struggling financially, and it's an absolute disgrace. Same with those shitty little 'your child has had a poem/short story printed in a book' bollocks. 'And the book will cost just £29, and you must order copies for nana Lou, aunt Fiona, granny Betty, and great granny Nellie.' What they don't tell you is that every one of the 70 children in that school year has a poem or short story in that book!

And they have some fucking nerve making children lose time and miss lessons, when they punish and fine people for going away for a week, and keeping the child off in term time!

It’s the heel kickers with a lower heel are absolutely fine (DD just bought a similar pair for sixth form)

some do allow black trainers DS does neither DD old or new one would