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McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 21:40

Posting here for traffic.

My DD starts year 7 next week. Local secondary. Nothing fancy.

She and we are respectful of uniform policy and have purchased everything we need to. She looks bloody smart and we (and she) can't wait for her to start.

As 11 year old girls will do, they have tried their whole set up in front of their friends and all of them said the same thing:

"You will get sent home with those shoes"

They throw detentions out for the most minor of uniform infractions and DD is now having a massive anxiety spiral that she's going to get a detention or worse sent home 1st day because of her shoes.

I spoke to a friend who works in the school office and showed her a picture and her response was "oooh, I'm not sure. Air Force 1s are the best way to go"

Since when have trainers been a smarter, more acceptable form of shoe than a patent loafer??!!!

For full disclosure she has chosen the Kickers Edie loafer as in the link

https://www.kickers.co.uk/adult-women-edie-loafer-patent-leather-black/14913640.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UK+-+Kickers+-+Search+-+Brand+-+Core+-+Broad&utm_term=kickers&utm_content=brand+-+Kickers&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20162340688&gbraid=0AAAAADiNwZXHWpJ1LFmAfTE2drVjkEy8k&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwsrFBhD6ARIsAPnUFD1w_j6Ufhx1cfFv1a1fF0Ageht-fZYRGu_xo9ofOilAOdjE7KgGjEgaAoLrEALw_wcb

This school stipulates that hair past chin lemgth needs to be in a ponytail with a hair band that is the closest colour to the individuals hair colour, yet believes that a trainer is smarter/more acceptable than the loafer.

AIBU here?! I know trainers are more acceptable these days but are they really considered smarter considering how rigid they are on the smaller items?!

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LillyPJ · 30/08/2025 22:34

The schools I've worked in definitely wouldn't allow heels at that age.

PinkFlloyd · 30/08/2025 22:34

While I agree AF1s are awful, neither would've been allowed in the school my DC attended. Did you really think those heels were suitable for an 11 year old?

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 22:34

PennySweeet · 30/08/2025 22:27

Again with the looks though?

It's a school, not a modelling academy.

The looks the looks...... I have literally just said I care about whether she is "smart".

If I wanted her to "look" fashionable I would have already purchased the £120 trainers.

Jesus Christ!

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LillyPJ · 30/08/2025 22:35

Rumplestiltz · 30/08/2025 22:16

They are not high heels! Yes ok not allowed under school policy etc but I have always found a shoe with a heel like that far more comfortable and supportive than flats. So stop all the - your DD won’t be able to walk from A to B etc. of course she will, but yes, you probably have to change them.

Of course they are high heels.

NJC7 · 30/08/2025 22:35

Are you serious? Why on earth did you think high heels would be acceptable in the first place. How daft

BCBird · 30/08/2025 22:36

They are too high, that's the issue. I'd take them.back and get flatter loafers. Parent are great as easy to keep clean? But there is not much 'give' in them

EH1768 · 30/08/2025 22:36

School shoes rules are a minefield!

that said I’ve never dealt with a school whose uniform rules allowed anything patent. I would check the policy carefully.

if Air Force Ones are permitted I would DEFINITELY go with those. They are so much more comfortable and practical than almost any other “girl” options we’ve found. At the school my children attended in Canada I would say nearly 100% of the secondary age students of both genders wore these.

best of luck 🙂

PennySweeet · 30/08/2025 22:37

SeptaUnellasBell · 30/08/2025 22:33

If the school weren't bothered about ‘looks’ they wouldn’t be stipulating the colour of a child hair bobble.

No-one's putting the aesthetics of a hair bobble above the safety of a child though.

Whereas the OP is way more concerned about how her child's feet look.

I can't remember the last time a hair bobble broke a kid's ankle.

Elphamouche · 30/08/2025 22:37

Zippidydoodah · 30/08/2025 21:46

Too high but we all had those exact ones in the nineties!

Came here to say this 😂

kittykat36 · 30/08/2025 22:38

Yeah my childrens school wouldnt allow those heels! My dd who is going into y10 wears an amazon version of the vivienne westwood ones along with most other girls? Basically a ballet pump style 🤷‍♀️

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 22:39

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 30/08/2025 22:33

Sadly @McSteamyorMcdreamy it has been like this for some years now. My DC were at secondary school (in the second half of the noughties) and pupils were regularly sent home for having the 'wrong' shoes, the 'wrong' haircut, or the 'wrong' PE kit.

You could only have the standard issue stuff that THEY sold.. Eg you have to have their blazer that you have to pay £80 for, and you're not allowed the one that costs £8 from Asda or Tesco. Ditto the PE kit. No £10 kit from Tesco. Nope. You must buy the school's one that costs £60.

The schools and the makers of these 'official' clothes are making a fucking killing from hard done by parents who are struggling financially, and it's an absolute disgrace. Same with those shitty little 'your child has had a poem/short story printed in a book' bollocks. 'And the book will cost just £29, and you must order copies for nana Lou, aunt Fiona, granny Betty, and great granny Nellie.' What they don't tell you is that every one of the 70 children in that school year has a poem or short story in that book!

And they have some fucking nerve making children lose time and miss lessons, when they punish and fine people for going away for a week, and keeping the child off in term time!

Literally states in policy that THEY will decide which boys hair cuts are acceptable.

Almost smacks of well if a straight 9/A* student comes into school with a no 1 they will be sent home.

I don't get it.

OP posts:
PennySweeet · 30/08/2025 22:39

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 22:34

The looks the looks...... I have literally just said I care about whether she is "smart".

If I wanted her to "look" fashionable I would have already purchased the £120 trainers.

Jesus Christ!

Ok this thread has just got weirder.

You don't seem to think those huge shoes are 'heels'.

And now you're saying that smart isn't a look?

If it isn't, then what exactly is it in the context of this thread?

Holidaytimeyay · 30/08/2025 22:40

TooManyNiblings · 30/08/2025 21:46

Agree, neither would pass at DD's school. Air force 1s are trainers and those are way too high heeled

Same, my kids school wouldn’t accept either those high heels or trainers. Those are not what I would describe as loafers and not school shoes.

WonderfulSmith · 30/08/2025 22:40

Zippidydoodah · 30/08/2025 21:46

Too high but we all had those exact ones in the nineties!

I was thinking how 90s they were!

But yes, not that heel.

Mumoftwoboysaged4and5 · 30/08/2025 22:43

The amount of pearl clutching on here tonight seriously! They are the EXACT ones we all wore in the early 00s and yet somehow we survived without falling down the stairs, deforming our feet or facing the wrath of teachers (who apparently have nothing better to do then monitor girls feet). Honestly people need to get a grip!

VenusClapTrap · 30/08/2025 22:43

LOL at someone buying high heels for an 11yo to wear for school

Toastedpickle · 30/08/2025 22:43

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 30/08/2025 22:33

Sadly @McSteamyorMcdreamy it has been like this for some years now. My DC were at secondary school (in the second half of the noughties) and pupils were regularly sent home for having the 'wrong' shoes, the 'wrong' haircut, or the 'wrong' PE kit.

You could only have the standard issue stuff that THEY sold.. Eg you have to have their blazer that you have to pay £80 for, and you're not allowed the one that costs £8 from Asda or Tesco. Ditto the PE kit. No £10 kit from Tesco. Nope. You must buy the school's one that costs £60.

The schools and the makers of these 'official' clothes are making a fucking killing from hard done by parents who are struggling financially, and it's an absolute disgrace. Same with those shitty little 'your child has had a poem/short story printed in a book' bollocks. 'And the book will cost just £29, and you must order copies for nana Lou, aunt Fiona, granny Betty, and great granny Nellie.' What they don't tell you is that every one of the 70 children in that school year has a poem or short story in that book!

And they have some fucking nerve making children lose time and miss lessons, when they punish and fine people for going away for a week, and keeping the child off in term time!

Nope. This hasn’t been the case for years. Schools provide a logo version of some items and then alternatives that are cheaper. It’s even legislation now to offer cheaper alternatives, offer a range of second hand and also help with paying for uniform for parents who struggle financially.
Op has bought a £76 pair of (wrong) shoes - this isn’t anything to do with money or the school trying to profit from it as you imply?!
Uniform policies these days are there for a reason.
She has also immediately coughed up for a pair of Air Force 1s - pretty sure there’s a happy medium between these and the heels that op is refusing to look at!

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 22:44

PennySweeet · 30/08/2025 22:37

No-one's putting the aesthetics of a hair bobble above the safety of a child though.

Whereas the OP is way more concerned about how her child's feet look.

I can't remember the last time a hair bobble broke a kid's ankle.

I would like to say I don't care about how DD looks as in how she walks out the front door.....I find it odd that the school though thinks trainers are "smarter" than what she has.

Unacceptable (since my OP) clearly which I have 100% taken on board as per my PP.

OP posts:
LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 30/08/2025 22:45

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 22:39

Literally states in policy that THEY will decide which boys hair cuts are acceptable.

Almost smacks of well if a straight 9/A* student comes into school with a no 1 they will be sent home.

I don't get it.

Batshit isn't it?!

PennySweeet · 30/08/2025 22:46

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 22:44

I would like to say I don't care about how DD looks as in how she walks out the front door.....I find it odd that the school though thinks trainers are "smarter" than what she has.

Unacceptable (since my OP) clearly which I have 100% taken on board as per my PP.

But you clearly do care how she looks because you keep repeating that the ridiculously high heels look smarter than the trainers.

Why do you keep saying this and then pretending you don't care about looks? 😳

liliandquack · 30/08/2025 22:46

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 21:40

Posting here for traffic.

My DD starts year 7 next week. Local secondary. Nothing fancy.

She and we are respectful of uniform policy and have purchased everything we need to. She looks bloody smart and we (and she) can't wait for her to start.

As 11 year old girls will do, they have tried their whole set up in front of their friends and all of them said the same thing:

"You will get sent home with those shoes"

They throw detentions out for the most minor of uniform infractions and DD is now having a massive anxiety spiral that she's going to get a detention or worse sent home 1st day because of her shoes.

I spoke to a friend who works in the school office and showed her a picture and her response was "oooh, I'm not sure. Air Force 1s are the best way to go"

Since when have trainers been a smarter, more acceptable form of shoe than a patent loafer??!!!

For full disclosure she has chosen the Kickers Edie loafer as in the link

https://www.kickers.co.uk/adult-women-edie-loafer-patent-leather-black/14913640.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=UK+-+Kickers+-+Search+-+Brand+-+Core+-+Broad&utm_term=kickers&utm_content=brand+-+Kickers&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20162340688&gbraid=0AAAAADiNwZXHWpJ1LFmAfTE2drVjkEy8k&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwsrFBhD6ARIsAPnUFD1w_j6Ufhx1cfFv1a1fF0Ageht-fZYRGu_xo9ofOilAOdjE7KgGjEgaAoLrEALw_wcb

This school stipulates that hair past chin lemgth needs to be in a ponytail with a hair band that is the closest colour to the individuals hair colour, yet believes that a trainer is smarter/more acceptable than the loafer.

AIBU here?! I know trainers are more acceptable these days but are they really considered smarter considering how rigid they are on the smaller items?!

The heel is waaaaaay to high. It's obvious, no?

InWalksBarberalla · 30/08/2025 22:47

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 30/08/2025 22:44

I would like to say I don't care about how DD looks as in how she walks out the front door.....I find it odd that the school though thinks trainers are "smarter" than what she has.

Unacceptable (since my OP) clearly which I have 100% taken on board as per my PP.

When did the school say they think that trainers look smarter than heeled loafers? That seems to be something you've made up.

CoralOP · 30/08/2025 22:47

Oooff bit much for an 11 year old!

mnahmnah · 30/08/2025 22:48

It’s about practicality and comfort as well though. Stairs, walking on busy corridors, science labs, D&T tools and equipment. Platform shoes with heels are just not appropriate.

liliandquack · 30/08/2025 22:48

These shoes would look completely inappropriate for a year 7 and not great for walking around lots. Very chavy with that heel, lowers the tone. It's high school, not Little Britain camp.