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To not want to host MIL for Christmas with a 12wk old baby & toddler

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Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 10:53

MIL is a widow (has been for nearly 30 years).
She has chosen not to move on and find a new partner and only had one child, my DH.
As a result we are expected to see her every Christmas. She lives four hours away so means she has to stay for a few days.

MIL is not a hands-on grandparent. She can't change nappies, doesn't help cook or tidy, and just about tolerates 2yr old DD although frequently ignores her when DD is trying to show her toys/engage with her.

MIL is extremely dependent emotionally on DH and despite living on her own isn't very independent. She won't get on the train to visit us so insists on getting a £700 (£350 each way) taxi door to door, which we think is outrageous.

She often expects to stay for a week at Christmas and since having DD we've managed to shorten this to just 24-27th.

Now if she was the kind of grandparent who would entertain the kids, or roll up her sleeves and empty the dishwasher, then we'd not hesitate.

However she's the kind of MIL who is lovely but won't even get her own drink or water, despite us saying to just help herself. It's effectively like having another child. She can get very stubborn and is very hard work sometimes.

Are we complete monsters for wanting to not have her here while DS is only 12wks old and we'll be in the absolute trenches?
It'll be hard enough with two young children.

She has close friends who used to regularly host Christmas, and DH and her would go to their house after her husband died, and I myself spent five Christmases there, so I'm certain she'd be welcome there.

OP posts:
AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 29/08/2025 16:27

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 16:25

Do they not have the news where you are?
It's pretty widely known that you can't get tests. You can't book online if there are no tests. There's nothing to book.

I've known two people get tests this year and one last. And I do watch the news.

Whatplanetam1on · 29/08/2025 16:27

I mean I don’t see what the issue is- anyone can come to my home for Christmas I’ll get on with what I have to do -
OP with the greatest respect just use your assertive tone on her - job done

godmum56 · 29/08/2025 16:28

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 15:08

Yeah it's pretty exhausting that people have latched on to a throwaway comment.

.its the unconsidered comments that tell you what's in someone's head.

HerkyBaby · 29/08/2025 16:28

Cruise Ships are full of older people ( many widowed) etc at Christmas as their generous children pay for them to have a luxury Christmas afloat. It’s all inclusive and food and drinks can be brought to cabins etc and she’ll meet people of her own age etc. Just a thought OP..,,
Alternatively find an air BnB close to your home for her to stay in so she can escape the boisterous children. You will collect her at appropriate times etc.

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 16:28

Charminggoldfinch · 29/08/2025 16:20

Fair enough! I think your only option is to not see MIL this Christmas as it’s not unreasonable for you not to host Christmas - no one should be expected to host every year baby or no baby. And thank you for the car seat tip - I haven’t got that far in my baby reading yet!
whatever you end up doing I hope you have a good Christmas OP!

Yes and certainly shouldn't expect someone to host and not get off your arse to put your plate in the kitchen.

OP posts:
SoSadForPoorDH · 29/08/2025 16:29

ginasevern · 29/08/2025 12:27

"so technically is spending all of his inheritance. As a result we don't see her often as we think it's a waste of money. "She has chosen not to move on and find a new partner and only had one child, my DH."

So you think the only way for a woman to "move on" is to find another man, right? And you also think she's no right to pay for taxis because she's spending your DH's inheritance? You sound entitled and quite frankly unpleasant. Why the fuck can't you and DH look after 2 children and your widowed MIL for, what, 3 days over Christmas. Jeez.

Quite.
I’m a young widow with only one DS (thanks to multiple mc) but I really don’t imagine a man in my life again.
Once he marries, I’d best plan to spend the remaining Christmases alone, with the light off and one candle lit, so I don’t waste their inheritance. 🙄

Gloriia · 29/08/2025 16:29

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 16:25

Do they not have the news where you are?
It's pretty widely known that you can't get tests. You can't book online if there are no tests. There's nothing to book.

Yes hun we have the news.

Slots are limited but available. You book maybe 1yr in advance then cancellations come up.

Can your dh manage going on the internet?

BIossomtoes · 29/08/2025 16:30

Gloriia · 29/08/2025 16:29

Yes hun we have the news.

Slots are limited but available. You book maybe 1yr in advance then cancellations come up.

Can your dh manage going on the internet?

I expect his mum wouldn’t allow it.

Gloriia · 29/08/2025 16:30

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 16:28

Yes and certainly shouldn't expect someone to host and not get off your arse to put your plate in the kitchen.

Oh op you sound so miserable and angry. What is really behind all this, have you any friends you can talk to?

DoinFineIThink · 29/08/2025 16:30

VickyEadieofThigh · 29/08/2025 11:04

You lost me at "spending his inheritance".

This. Disgusting attitude. It's her money, she's still alive. She can spend it how she likes.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 29/08/2025 16:30

godmum56 · 29/08/2025 16:28

.its the unconsidered comments that tell you what's in someone's head.

Never a truer word spoken in jest.

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 16:31

HerkyBaby · 29/08/2025 16:28

Cruise Ships are full of older people ( many widowed) etc at Christmas as their generous children pay for them to have a luxury Christmas afloat. It’s all inclusive and food and drinks can be brought to cabins etc and she’ll meet people of her own age etc. Just a thought OP..,,
Alternatively find an air BnB close to your home for her to stay in so she can escape the boisterous children. You will collect her at appropriate times etc.

She's frightened to get on a train, she won't go on a cruise. I promise you we would absolutely love this for her. She's a nervous wreck.
We have tried encouraging her to do things when she started saying she was too nervous, but it gets to the point where she refuses what can you do? Especially if she has many people around her who tell her it's too hard for her and it's easier to do xyz. They're not the ones at the end of the phone when she's calling because she thinks you've lost your baby because you didn't call for two days.

OP posts:
Babyboomtastic · 29/08/2025 16:31

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 16:22

30 minutes is common knowledge and if you Google it you'll find multiple NHS websites saying for the first few months no more than half an hour. However, even if we went with 2 hours, it's still a four hour journey.

You've misunderstood it.

Following the rules strict, It's 30 minutes have a break, maybe feed baby, change nappy, get baby out of car seat, and then back again for 30 minutes.

As I said though, the advice is on pretty dodgy footing. You'll note that it's not even the advice of the lullaby trust, though it is mentioned by sk.e NHS trusts.

https://www.lullabytrust.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Car-seat-factsheet.pdf

It's dodgy enough that I felt comfortable enough to make my own judgements as my babies were term and healthy. In reality, breaks would be frequent, but if baby was asleep and we needed to travel, we did. I'd just sit in the middle if needs be to keep an eye on her breathing.

https://www.lullabytrust.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Car-seat-factsheet.pdf

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 29/08/2025 16:32

BIossomtoes · 29/08/2025 16:30

I expect his mum wouldn’t allow it.

God I miss the laugh reaction button!

Gloriia · 29/08/2025 16:32

'She's a nervous wreck'

She has mental wellbeing issues. Please try and be kind and tolerant.

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 16:33

Gloriia · 29/08/2025 16:30

Oh op you sound so miserable and angry. What is really behind all this, have you any friends you can talk to?

You'd let your adult children with young children of their own run around after you, and not even offer to wash up? No wonder you have such sympathy for her.

OP posts:
AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 29/08/2025 16:34

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 16:31

She's frightened to get on a train, she won't go on a cruise. I promise you we would absolutely love this for her. She's a nervous wreck.
We have tried encouraging her to do things when she started saying she was too nervous, but it gets to the point where she refuses what can you do? Especially if she has many people around her who tell her it's too hard for her and it's easier to do xyz. They're not the ones at the end of the phone when she's calling because she thinks you've lost your baby because you didn't call for two days.

Life sounds incredibly tough for her.

DoinFineIThink · 29/08/2025 16:34

SoSadForPoorDH · 29/08/2025 16:29

Quite.
I’m a young widow with only one DS (thanks to multiple mc) but I really don’t imagine a man in my life again.
Once he marries, I’d best plan to spend the remaining Christmases alone, with the light off and one candle lit, so I don’t waste their inheritance. 🙄

I'm a DIL with a MIL who has one child, DH and there's only us. So don't worry, we're not all that grabbing - I think the OP and DH's attitude is disgusting.

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 16:35

Babyboomtastic · 29/08/2025 16:31

You've misunderstood it.

Following the rules strict, It's 30 minutes have a break, maybe feed baby, change nappy, get baby out of car seat, and then back again for 30 minutes.

As I said though, the advice is on pretty dodgy footing. You'll note that it's not even the advice of the lullaby trust, though it is mentioned by sk.e NHS trusts.

https://www.lullabytrust.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Car-seat-factsheet.pdf

It's dodgy enough that I felt comfortable enough to make my own judgements as my babies were term and healthy. In reality, breaks would be frequent, but if baby was asleep and we needed to travel, we did. I'd just sit in the middle if needs be to keep an eye on her breathing.

I hear you, but four hours is still a very very long time for a 12wk old baby :)

OP posts:
marylou25 · 29/08/2025 16:35

I lost all sympathy when you said she was spending your husbands inheritance!

Gloriia · 29/08/2025 16:35

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 16:33

You'd let your adult children with young children of their own run around after you, and not even offer to wash up? No wonder you have such sympathy for her.

I'd wash up yes. However I have family who sometimes behave in ways differently to me, struggling with things that I find easy. The key is to enjoy being with people and if your dh has to get his finger out a bit more then so be it.

Are you looking forward to the new baby?

Enigma54 · 29/08/2025 16:36

Wrenjay · 29/08/2025 16:24

Something with the parenting isn't right: "Safe sleep" routine plus not in car seat for more than 30(?) minutes. Over cautious parenting is making life very difficult in general. Hand washing routine is very good along with the no kissing. MIL problem is just the pits.

Agree re: “ Safe sleep routine” / car seat rules. My DC are 17 and 20. Both fit healthy young adults. We followed zero sleep routines or car seat rules.

Gloriia · 29/08/2025 16:36

marylou25 · 29/08/2025 16:35

I lost all sympathy when you said she was spending your husbands inheritance!

Oh no we aren't allowed to bring that up a pp has announced!

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 16:36

Gloriia · 29/08/2025 16:29

Yes hun we have the news.

Slots are limited but available. You book maybe 1yr in advance then cancellations come up.

Can your dh manage going on the internet?

If there were slots available he'd book it. There aren't slots.

OP posts:
Wrenjay · 29/08/2025 16:37

I do drive with seat belt, sat nav, intuitive breaking ..... I have also driven tracked vehicles, 50 tonne full battle tank. I also ride a bicycle and have since 4 years old in London! I have brought up 2 healthy, self motivated and confident children, who have given me 5 healthy, self motivated and confident grandchildren. Any more information you need?

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