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To not want to host MIL for Christmas with a 12wk old baby & toddler

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Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 10:53

MIL is a widow (has been for nearly 30 years).
She has chosen not to move on and find a new partner and only had one child, my DH.
As a result we are expected to see her every Christmas. She lives four hours away so means she has to stay for a few days.

MIL is not a hands-on grandparent. She can't change nappies, doesn't help cook or tidy, and just about tolerates 2yr old DD although frequently ignores her when DD is trying to show her toys/engage with her.

MIL is extremely dependent emotionally on DH and despite living on her own isn't very independent. She won't get on the train to visit us so insists on getting a £700 (£350 each way) taxi door to door, which we think is outrageous.

She often expects to stay for a week at Christmas and since having DD we've managed to shorten this to just 24-27th.

Now if she was the kind of grandparent who would entertain the kids, or roll up her sleeves and empty the dishwasher, then we'd not hesitate.

However she's the kind of MIL who is lovely but won't even get her own drink or water, despite us saying to just help herself. It's effectively like having another child. She can get very stubborn and is very hard work sometimes.

Are we complete monsters for wanting to not have her here while DS is only 12wks old and we'll be in the absolute trenches?
It'll be hard enough with two young children.

She has close friends who used to regularly host Christmas, and DH and her would go to their house after her husband died, and I myself spent five Christmases there, so I'm certain she'd be welcome there.

OP posts:
Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 15:28

Robin67 · 29/08/2025 15:25

Too old to do any of that but can still go on holidays and walking/ hiking trips. She's being a pain on purpose

Well exactly. And she gets on a train with friends when she wants to too.
She does her own laundry, washing up etc. it's not that she's too old to do those things.

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Robin67 · 29/08/2025 15:28

RimTimTagiDim · 29/08/2025 15:22

Don't kid yourself. I'm in my 30s and think you're a terrible person, as is your husband.

Ignore this one OP. You are clearly a good DIL to have tolerated this so far. Please prioritise your own little family this year.

SatOnaHotTinRoof · 29/08/2025 15:28

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 15:26

I did :) I gave a very detailed description. He does most of the housework and childcare. He does every bedtime and overnight after I stopped breastfeeding. That balances the fact that he doesn't drive. It's a pain in the arse but anyone who listens to the news knows it's very difficult to get a driving test now.
When I learned it was the instructors who sorted out tests. It's very different now.
Believe me I don't need anyone to tell me how much of a pain it is that he doesn't drive but if there's no tests there's no tests.

Why does he leave the hosting of his mum to you? Apologies if this isn't the case, but it is what it sounds like from your posts. What does he do for her? And why don't you make it clear to him that she is his responsibility?

Itstheshowgirl · 29/08/2025 15:29

Robin67 · 29/08/2025 15:25

Too old to do any of that but can still go on holidays and walking/ hiking trips. She's being a pain on purpose

Ah yes the holidays and walking trips she manages while being too anxious to take trains anywhere. OP has totally not made them up (and thereby totally contradicted her other posts).

Robin67 · 29/08/2025 15:30

Itstheshowgirl · 29/08/2025 15:29

Ah yes the holidays and walking trips she manages while being too anxious to take trains anywhere. OP has totally not made them up (and thereby totally contradicted her other posts).

Or...OR...MIL is doing this on purpose and is perfectly capable but is playing a silly game.

SatOnaHotTinRoof · 29/08/2025 15:31

Itstheshowgirl · 29/08/2025 15:29

Ah yes the holidays and walking trips she manages while being too anxious to take trains anywhere. OP has totally not made them up (and thereby totally contradicted her other posts).

She gets on trains with other people, but seems anxious to do so alone, which is why she forks out all that money for a taxi. Otherwise, why would she do that?

Wayk · 29/08/2025 15:31

Could your husband ask her to look after herself and maybe give a hand.

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 15:31

Cherrysoup · 29/08/2025 15:27

I don’t think you’re remotely unreasonable to want Christmas without her, she sounds like very hard work BUT you’ve both trained her into this and she sounds highly manipulative, crying if asked to get herself a sandwich, wtaf?! I’d have told her her fortune YEARS ago, no demanding (silently or otherwise) that someone else gets her a drink/different food. Here’s the meal, you can have a little bit, you don’t need a massive portion. Put your tissues in the bin, please, it’s not hygienic to just leave them there for Sophie to pick up. I can’t get up right now, can you put the kettle on, please? If she cries, then hate to say, tough love is needed and is incredibly overdue!

I’ve had to tell my parents no, you can’t come on this day-they were retired, me and DH work f/t. There were tantrums and the phone went down a few times (them, not me) but they learned that they couldn’t just turn up when they felt like it. Put some boundaries in place, this is a really frustrating read, too many similarities to my situation.

Edited

A lot of those things we have done but she's so stubborn.
Not sure if you saw but for example, set boundaries that she couldn't kiss newborn DD but she did it anyway. Asked her to wash hands after coughing and sneezing into them. But we have to ask her every time and it's bloody exhausting and we are made to feel controlling.

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Dutchhouse14 · 29/08/2025 15:31

She isn't spending your DHs inheritance by getting a taxi!!
It's her money, regardless of if she worked outside the home.
When baby you s 12 weeks old you, hopefully, won't be completely in the trenches and having a guest for a few days over Xmas should be fine.
Maybe I'm a pushover but I'd put up with it for a few days.
You can't be sure her friends would invite her, their situation may have changed.
What dies your DH think?
She does sound a bit like hard work, can you or DH ask her directly to do help or do something? When she's there?
Mine and DHs parents also were hands on so I know it's frustrating.
But I do think it would be a bit mean not to invite her for Xmas unless you and DH are 100% certain she'd be invited elsewhere. Either way you should see her at some point at Xmas, when will she see her new grandchild? Will she visit and stay before Xmas?

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 29/08/2025 15:32

justasking111 · 29/08/2025 15:10

Then her son waits on her every wish

That's doubtful as the OP has already said that he is fed up of her (his mum) too though presumably not of her bank balance.

DreamyRedNewt · 29/08/2025 15:33

BlondieMuver · 29/08/2025 11:04

I was sympathetic until I read the sentence about spending your DH inheritance.
It's her money, she can spend it as she sees fit.

You see her a few times a year? She won't live forever...

This.

It is not his inheritance, it is her money. She can spend it as she pleases and then he will have whatever inheritance, if there is anything left! If she wants to go on trips and spend lots of money in the last years of her life, it is her right because it is hers, nobody else's money.

BIossomtoes · 29/08/2025 15:33

Robin67 · 29/08/2025 15:30

Or...OR...MIL is doing this on purpose and is perfectly capable but is playing a silly game.

Or someone’s not being entirely truthful.

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 15:34

SatOnaHotTinRoof · 29/08/2025 15:31

She gets on trains with other people, but seems anxious to do so alone, which is why she forks out all that money for a taxi. Otherwise, why would she do that?

She used to get the train fine but her friends told her it was too hard to do it at her age. This has then set it in her mind that it's too hard. And then just undermines her confidence. Most of her friends haven't travelled the world and have lived very small country lives. DH suspects they were a bit envious that she was confident enough to do a lot of things and are pleased she's now in line with them for the frightened of your own shadow show.

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Coconutter24 · 29/08/2025 15:37

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 10:59

If we don't get her drinks she will sit there all day without water and then cough continuously because she has a dry throat.

She pays for the taxis, although it's a sensitive issue as while her own money, hasn't worked since DH was born and so technically is spending all of his inheritance. As a result we don't see her often as we think it's a waste of money.

I don't think she'll be up for alternating, think she'll get very offended. But surely just one Christmas organising herself isn't end of the world?
I can see us being easily guilted into it, regretting it and I'll probably lose my rag with with her if she's just sitting not doing anything.
She visited for the bank holiday weekend while I'm 37wks pregnant and watched me rush around cooking her dinners and doing everything for her, and it's given me a taste of what it'll be like.

She pays for the taxis, although it's a sensitive issue as while her own money, hasn't worked since DH was born and so technically is spending all of his inheritance.

yabvvu saying this. She is spending her own money, it’s not DH inheritance yet

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 15:37

Dutchhouse14 · 29/08/2025 15:31

She isn't spending your DHs inheritance by getting a taxi!!
It's her money, regardless of if she worked outside the home.
When baby you s 12 weeks old you, hopefully, won't be completely in the trenches and having a guest for a few days over Xmas should be fine.
Maybe I'm a pushover but I'd put up with it for a few days.
You can't be sure her friends would invite her, their situation may have changed.
What dies your DH think?
She does sound a bit like hard work, can you or DH ask her directly to do help or do something? When she's there?
Mine and DHs parents also were hands on so I know it's frustrating.
But I do think it would be a bit mean not to invite her for Xmas unless you and DH are 100% certain she'd be invited elsewhere. Either way you should see her at some point at Xmas, when will she see her new grandchild? Will she visit and stay before Xmas?

We follow safe sleep guidance and so a 12 wk old baby can't be left to sleep on their own so come 7pm we will both be going up to bed with baby.
Given that she is cross if we go to bed before midnight I'm not sure she'll like that and we will be guilted into one of us sitting downstairs with her rather than spending time together.

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Cherrytree86 · 29/08/2025 15:38

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 14:56

Yes that's very much what she is like.

We grin and bear the extra effort but I'm not sure we want to when we'll be sleep deprived. Sort of want to just focus on the children, and if there's anything left then enjoying Christmas for us too.

Yep, you just focus on your own little family OP, no one else matters.

🙄

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 15:39

Wayk · 29/08/2025 15:31

Could your husband ask her to look after herself and maybe give a hand.

This is constantly done and she won't.
Everything is left out for her to make her own breakfast and she still won't do it.

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BIossomtoes · 29/08/2025 15:39

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 15:37

We follow safe sleep guidance and so a 12 wk old baby can't be left to sleep on their own so come 7pm we will both be going up to bed with baby.
Given that she is cross if we go to bed before midnight I'm not sure she'll like that and we will be guilted into one of us sitting downstairs with her rather than spending time together.

Won’t that happen if she visits at the beginning of December? And why do you both have to go to bed at 7pm? Or either of you if the baby’s downstairs?

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 15:39

Cherrytree86 · 29/08/2025 15:38

Yep, you just focus on your own little family OP, no one else matters.

🙄

Edited

I think for just one Christmas this is surely acceptable.
If she lived round the corner and drove herself over for Christmas lunch then fab but not the case.

OP posts:
Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 15:40

BIossomtoes · 29/08/2025 15:39

Won’t that happen if she visits at the beginning of December? And why do you both have to go to bed at 7pm? Or either of you if the baby’s downstairs?

Because we want to spend time together? Rather than one of us sitting up with the baby on their own.

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RimTimTagiDim · 29/08/2025 15:41

RampantIvy · 29/08/2025 15:26

Do you really think it is OK for the MIL to use weaponised incompetence to be waited on hand and foot?

Seriously?

Did you mean to quote someone else?

Waterweight · 29/08/2025 15:42

"MIL is a widow (has been for nearly 30 years).
She has chosen not to move on and find a new partner and only had one child, my DH.
As a result we are expected to see her every Christmas. She lives four hours away so means she has to stay for a few days."

I'm presuming this wasn't something you were aware of before you married your husband or she was capable of giving him enough space to have a life/find a wife at some point ????

If not then I 100% get your point of view but for most people hosting relatives is a normal part of family stuff even if you have 2 kids....

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 29/08/2025 15:42

IheartMCR · 29/08/2025 15:04

Just watch the out she doesn’t get dementia or something else that requires 24/7 care, or that’s where all your dhs inheritance (your MILs money!) will go.

Your dh needs to speak to her.

Edited

Hi mum, please don't get dementia or anything else that might require care home fees because I've got my eye on the main prize and it's already dwindling with the amount of taxis you insist on taking.
Ta very much 🤣
x

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 15:43

Itstheshowgirl · 29/08/2025 15:29

Ah yes the holidays and walking trips she manages while being too anxious to take trains anywhere. OP has totally not made them up (and thereby totally contradicted her other posts).

The contradiction is MIL rather than myself. Capable and competent when she wants to be.

OP posts:
thepariscrimefiles · 29/08/2025 15:43

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 14:50

She isn't capable of helping.
I asked her to turn on the TV and she made such a big deal of it that I didn't ask again.

Does she cook for herself at home? Has she ever invited you and her son and made you all a meal?

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