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Alice19876 · 28/08/2025 00:49

I got married three years ago. To my husband who is a tradie who works hard for our family while I stay home with our twins who are 18 months old.
I am very lucky to be a stay at home mom and my husband works very hard to provide for us we don't live beyond our means and have one holiday abroad a year and one year in England.
when we got engaged we planned a Cyprus wedding but due to Covid that fell apart and we lost about 1.5k in deposits.
due to this we decided to have a cheap uk wedding in December in a beautiful venue that does packages nothing I don't regret. Now here comes the issue, I'm an only child and when my parents were there during my engagement they was over the moon for me they even offered 10k to get married abroad and I was shocked but so thankful. But obviously due to Covid the wedding abroad it never went ahead. Since we moved the wedding to the uk and it coming a lot more my parents said it was ok the budget was still the same. While we paid other fees. ,then they made changes to the wedding ie the evening wedding food was a basic package but my dad wanted the upgrade to a hog roast which was 1.5k including other changes, my wedding dress they said not to worry so we went shopping for my dress I found a lovely one for £800 but my mom made me try on a 2.5k dress with a 1k veil and extras. But they reassured me, I'm their only child and little girl it's okay. Then added extras as their friends are coming, a harpist which they wanted etc so it came about 10k but we put the rest.

happy wedding and all good until yesterday. My parents informed me the wedding money they 'loaned' me they need back in a year. It wasn't ever a loan and I'm shocked. It's been 3 years and never mentioned once. My dad is taking early retirement this year which I don't blame him but they want the money to go on a cruise. As I mentioned I'm a stay at home mom to twins and also now another baby on the way. Where do I get this money from? When all along for 3 years plus the year before telling me not to worry. I feel sick, I have such a good relationship with my parents so I don't want this to affect our relationship. But I don't have a spare 10k they told me I shouldn't have gone on holiday this year and gave them the money instead but they have never mentioned this before!? If it was a loan it would've been paid back since we first got married. I can't sleep as I'm so worried. Aibu? Do I just take a loan out?

OP posts:
custardcreme77 · 28/08/2025 13:01

Seeing as they have now admitted their only contribution towards your wedding was a derisory £100, I would be very tempted to return it! After all, you wouldn’t want them to go without.

Pipplestop · 28/08/2025 13:02

Nestingbirds · 28/08/2025 07:21

It is appalling no two ways about it. Greedy boomers.

There's greedy people in all generations. Being born a baby boomer does not automatically make someone greedy and all other generations are not immune to greed. That's just ageism.

Pancakeflipper · 28/08/2025 13:04

This is very weird

I would have to speak to them face to face and say you and your DH understood it was a gift not a loan. That there is obviously some big misunderstamding and you would like to sort it out so it doesnt ruin your relationship. You don't have spare monies to pay it back.

If they insist on themonies, let them know it would have to be a monthly payment of £40 (or similar sum) and you deduct the monies for the fucking harpist - make it clear that was their pick not yours.

Tell them to not to gift anything to you and your children, they can deduct it from their "loan".

And I'd withdraw from.them as I would feel really let down, confused and doubt everything they say. I cannot imagine treating my children like this. It feels sneaky.
Perhaps they've come a cropper financially recently,but it's not fair to dump it onto you and have you solve their finances forAcruise

Womanofcustard · 28/08/2025 13:05

Many years ago my MiL gave my DH £3000 to help his ailing business. Couple of years later I consolidated our debts and offered her the whole amount back. She said she didn’t want it. Fast forward a couple of years, she said she wanted the money back and denied the conversation with me. We didn’t have it. We ended up going nc. Then she was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimers.
I would be concerned that your parents, or one of them, has memory problems.
Otherwise their behaviour doesn’t make sense.

AnonymousBleep · 28/08/2025 13:06

It can't have been a loan if if was just them paying for various 'upgrades.' They didn't give you a bank transfer or a cheque for £10K. It's never been a loan, it's always been a gift, and now one they've decided to take back.

£100 is an unbelievably mean wedding present from your actual parents!

You don't owe them for this - there's no way it could ever go to the small claims court. It's very clear they gifted you the money - well, bought you stuff - then changed their mind about it when they found themselves short three years later. I would NOT pay them back. If they kick off, I would ask them to itemise everything they bought for your wedding, with receipts, so you can see exactly how much they paid - obviously this would not include the additions of their own friends to the day or the expensive upgrades you didn't want - and then offer to 'gift' them £50 a month as a goodwill gesture and sod them if they make a fuss about it.

SaladAndChipsForTea · 28/08/2025 13:07

You don't need legal advice. There no contact because it was their money to spend how they liked.

They paid the vendors directly so if they want a refund, they need to ask them.

They wanted a hog roast.
They wanted extra guests.
They wanted a harpist.

Your husband didn't want to pay half for that did he? Nor did you.

Answer the phone, tell your mum it was clearly a gift and you aren't giving them 10k after they decided to overspend because they were paying and have changed their minds and are now hitting you up for money you've never had.

If they want to pursue it, they can pay for costly legal advice that will tell them they don't gave a leg to stand on. Do not under any circumstances, give any sort of response to indicate you're willing to repay it or you may screw yourself and your husband over.

They've behaved atrociously and they should be ashamed of themselves.

This is extreme cheeky fuckery on their part dressed up to make you feel like you owe them.

Seelybe · 28/08/2025 13:09

@Alice19876 I always hate posts like this. PLEASE don't take out a loan or look to repay this money. It's absolutely blatantly obvious that it wasn't a loan, you would have vetoed all the extras they wanted and piled on if you knew you would have to repay it. For whatever reason they're now trying it on.
If they really think that £100 was a sufficient gift from comfortably off parents to their only child they are seriously mean.
Tell them pleasantly but firmly there was never any mention of it being a loan for either destination and had that been stated at the outset you would have arranged a very different wedding. So for that reason there is nothing to repay. Then leave the ball in their court. If they sulk for a bit it's their loss. You and your dh enjoy your little family and let them stew! And I hope they read this and feel as small as they ought to.

SaladAndChipsForTea · 28/08/2025 13:10

And it's not even a gift. It's a contract they took out for services with vendors directly. You have no part of that.

They can take the vendors to court if they think they are owed money, not you. You haven't had a penny.

Anyahyacinth · 28/08/2025 13:10

Alice19876 · 28/08/2025 00:56

They said it wasn't ever a gift as our £100 gift card in our wedding card was a gift. I said I must've understood but it's only their word against ours regarding the money.

Loans aren't something you wait 3 years to claim. What a horrible thing to do, really sorry OP. I wouldn't repay anything..do you have texts, messages encouraging you to choose more expensive things for their tastes? Awful, I can't imagine how upset you must feel 💐💐💐💐💐

SaladAndChipsForTea · 28/08/2025 13:11

The high if splashing the cash has worn off and now they've had the glory and fun they want a refund. Like tightarses that deliberately find fault because they never intended to pay full price.

Itsseweasy · 28/08/2025 13:14

Sorry OP I haven’t read the full thread but are you absolutely sure you have a good relationship with your parents? Or are things all good as long as you are doing what they want, you make them look good, and they are happy?
Because my parents would absolutely have pulled a stunt like this and they are covert narcissists.
I’m wondering if you were encouraged to have a lavish wedding to make them/your family look good (they probably “accidentally” commented about them footing the bill to people they wanted to impress too) and now they’d like the money back to use for themselves (use for themselves a second time - because the lavish wedding would have been more about them too and how it made them look good).
I mean I could be totally missing the mark there, but maybe food for thought?
My covert narcissist mother did the exact same thing with a house deposit.
We scrimped and saved to pay it back so she no longer had any control/hold over us and she hated that 😆 really she wanted us to be in her debt after looking good to everyone for giving it to us.
But anyway, I’d definitely have a good look at your relationship with them for clues as to the real driving factor for their behaviour. It is absolutely not kind, or normal, parental behaviour.

aCatCalledFawkes · 28/08/2025 13:17

SaladAndChipsForTea · 28/08/2025 13:11

The high if splashing the cash has worn off and now they've had the glory and fun they want a refund. Like tightarses that deliberately find fault because they never intended to pay full price.

I think they are well and truly boomers who have a decent income however share prices are down, cost of living is up and they have suddenly decided they would of been better off not spending so much money on a wedding as its impacting there standard of living?
Either way it's a pretty awful position to put the OP in. Wanting 10k so they can book next years cruise.......

wibdib · 28/08/2025 13:18

Agree with all the pp who say point out that it was never a loan, it was always a gift and that much of it was for the upgrades to your wedding that they wanted rather than what you wanted, so there is no way that you would have paid £££ for things you didn’t want just so they could impress their friends with how fancy their daughter’s wedding was.

i would also definitely calculate the cost of what you would have had if you stuck to your original plans vs the cost of all the extras and upgraded bits so that you can turn the conversation around from it being about a £10k gift/loan to it being a £3k gift/loan and &7k of added extras that they wanted (or whatever the amount ends up being), so that automatically it reduces the amount that they can hope to extract from you and if they do try to take it further to court for example the fact that you dispute not only the amount but the terms all helps to show the problems with this being a gift or a loan (in your favour).

Also have they given you any money as a present since the wedding? For example, for the birth of your dc, at a birthday or Christmas? Because if so, beyond any small amount that could be deemed a token amount (eg to go out for a meal or to buy yourself a new little necklace or handbag), why would they have given you money if they were expecting you to pay back your wedding money? If they knew they had already agreed a loan with you, surely they would put any gift towards paying that off sooner rather than later?!

Finally - did any of the amount get put into any written accounts for tax purposes - I know that you can gift certain amounts and the allowances are more if you’re a parent gifting a child money for their wedding… I just don’t know the technical rules surrounding that and whether or not it gets declared by one or both parties, or if it’s just for a gift that goes into a bank account or off it applies to paying towards costs associated with the wedding - hopefully someone on here will know - but also hopefully if it does get recorded in your self assessment for example you’ll be able to say that look, you told us it was a gift, we claimed it as a gift, you’ve said you paid it to us as a gift, otherwise we wouldn’t have included it and nor would you. And then that will also keep at least some of it designated as a gift not a loan.

it does sound like they have suddenly realised how much more expensive things have suddenly got over the last couple of years and that if their investments haven’t done as well or if they have the retire early option that they are tempted by along with wanting to speed money doing nice travelling they have decided to change their attitude to you and your wedding (now they have conveniently had the fancy wedding to impress their friends!) and come back to grab money.

definitely don’t roll over and just pay up - they have already spoilt their relationship with you by doing this so don’t be afraid to make them work for any money they demand off you - they are the ones in the wrong, not you!

TorroFerney · 28/08/2025 13:19

Sundaykitchen · 28/08/2025 12:22

Did you have a flash holiday this year or something? And they thought they wouldn’t be able to afford the same and started to get resentful over it.

Also £100 for a wedding present doesn’t sound right for an only child.

Were they generous when you had your children?

I am an only child, parents very generous and gave me £2k towards my wedding (this was quite a few years ago) but they didn't get us a present, never thought about it at the time but then I have seen lots of posts with people who were given money and a wedding present. Makes you think. Well only makes me think as once I would have said I had a good relationship but had a bit of a road to Damascus moment a few years ago.

Sorry op that's not moving the thread forward for you. But I was just about to say when you say you had a good relationship - have you ever pushed back before? Perhaps you have a relationship based on compliance. I mean who would ever encourage their child to take a loan of £10k for a wedding, whoever it was from.

Worrywort23 · 28/08/2025 13:29

As a parent, I can say this is not how real parents act. I would tell them you are not repaying any so-called 'loan' which was obviously a gift in which they chose to spend more than your budget and if they persist in nagging you for it, you will cut off contact until they come to their senses.
I honestly can't believe people would act like this unless there's something you aren't telling us.

Alice19876 · 28/08/2025 13:30

Worrywort23 · 28/08/2025 13:29

As a parent, I can say this is not how real parents act. I would tell them you are not repaying any so-called 'loan' which was obviously a gift in which they chose to spend more than your budget and if they persist in nagging you for it, you will cut off contact until they come to their senses.
I honestly can't believe people would act like this unless there's something you aren't telling us.

I'm honestly trying to think if I have done something to them but this is the truth, I'm honestly shocked and very upset. It was never a loan because if it was a loan I would've happily paid them back and not had a harpist.

OP posts:
Sundaykitchen · 28/08/2025 13:32

Why have they asked for it back in a year? They know you don’t have that much money sitting around if they have given you that timescale. Why is your mother ringing you if they are not expecting the money straight away?

JohnBullshit · 28/08/2025 13:32

How bizarre. DH and I are about the same ages as your parents. We have adult DC, DH is looking at early retirement, and like most parents of adult children we have spent thousands over the years since they grew up in support, gifts, accommodation, yadda yadda. Okay, no wedding as yet. But the thought of going up to them and saying, right, we've forked out £xxxxx, and your dad wants to stop working soon, so pay up, kids? It's simply unfathomable. We didn't lend them that money. It was freely given, just like the payments made towards parts of your wedding.

Catwalking · 28/08/2025 13:40

Do your DP’s have older brothers/sisters ( ie. your aunts & uncles)?
If there are other friends & relatives could they be influencing your DP’s usual ways of thinking? Or could you approach them for a private conversation about what could be happening?

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 28/08/2025 13:42

Flossflower · 28/08/2025 01:12

You should definitely not be paying them a single penny. It sounds as though they decided what they wanted for your wedding and are now asking you to pay.
You need to tell them that these things were their ideas, not yours and you will not be paying them.

They actually have the cheek to charge you for all the extras they insisted on..
The Harpist.. Their friends who you probably wouldn't have invited if it was a small wedding. The friends were there so they could show off to them with a grand party.
They basically used your wedding as a party for themselves too and now they want you to pay for it.

If you'd known it was a loan you would have probably scaled down the whole thing. They didn't give you that opportunity. In fact, they encouraged you to spend more, eg on the dress, thereby increasing the amount of the "loan" they now want repaying.

And they've decided to annouce this just after you've had their TWIN grandchildren, knowing you are not currently working?

Because they want to go on a cruise?

I would be listing and adding up the cost of all their extras.... working out what you would have spent if you'd known it was a loan they wanted repaying.. It doesn't count as part of the disputed loan.

I'd also be saying that no one in their right mind would take on a 10K loan without first finding out exactly what the repayment terms are. Are they planning on charging you interest. They denied you the opportunity to consider this information - and frankly you might have been better off borrowing some of this on interest free credit card. At least you'd would have known what you were getting into.

It's very sad for you OP.. I know you don't want to fall out with them forever, the above were just some "defence" suggestions.. but don't let them push you around.. If they were a bank, this would be considered very sharp practice... and adding in elements of what they wanted for this party to your "loan" could be considered fraud, since they are charging you for something they wanted for their own benefit.

grumpygrape · 28/08/2025 13:43

PinkFlloyd · 28/08/2025 12:19

Unless they were very badly off financially, I'd be shocked by any parent giving only £100 when their child married, especially when they added thousands to the bill.

This.
They claim you owe them ?£10,000 but could only afford a wedding present of £100?
Nah, does not compute.
Also, you said they said 'the budget was still the same' which points towards their budget not their loan

TomatoSandwiches · 28/08/2025 13:43

I would ask them why they're lying to my face about it being a loan and why they've decided to make this up and try to claw back money after 3yrs when you're a SAHM with nearly 3 children.
I wouldn't pay a penny op, your parents should be ashamed.

VickyEadieofThigh · 28/08/2025 13:47

In your shoes, OP, I'd be doing this. I'd send them a letter/email saying something along the lines of:

Dear (names)

With regard to your request that we repay the money you gave us for our wedding three years ago, which you now regard as a "loan" - despite never stating this at the time - we wish to state the following:

  1. Had you told us this was a loan, we would never have accepted such a big sum and would not have accepted the additional 'extras' (insert details) you insisted we have at the time.
  2. Our financial situation is such that we are in no position to repay such a large sum quickly; we therefore propose to pay - on a monthly basis - what we can afford. This is £10 per month.

Yours sincerely

Names

ClawedButler · 28/08/2025 13:50

If it was a loan, they'll have proof of that won't they? The terms of the loan, when it would be paid back, any interest accrued etc. With a signature from you proving you agreed to it.

But they won't have any of that stuff because they've only retrospectively decided their show-off money was actually a loan.

I'm not surprised you're upset by this. It's a horrible thing to do to someone. I really hope you find a way forward that works for you x

PoshDuckQuarkQuark · 28/08/2025 13:51

VickyEadieofThigh · 28/08/2025 13:47

In your shoes, OP, I'd be doing this. I'd send them a letter/email saying something along the lines of:

Dear (names)

With regard to your request that we repay the money you gave us for our wedding three years ago, which you now regard as a "loan" - despite never stating this at the time - we wish to state the following:

  1. Had you told us this was a loan, we would never have accepted such a big sum and would not have accepted the additional 'extras' (insert details) you insisted we have at the time.
  2. Our financial situation is such that we are in no position to repay such a large sum quickly; we therefore propose to pay - on a monthly basis - what we can afford. This is £10 per month.

Yours sincerely

Names

I wouldn't send this as the money was not a loan and should not be treated as a loan.

Offering to pay £10 a month is agreeing that they may have been mistaken and it was infact a loan.

The OP needs to maintain their stance that it was never a loan.

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