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Taylor Swift engagement - puzzled

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LouisaJG · 27/08/2025 17:45

I’m in my 30s and so unreasonable to be posting/caring about this on every level. BUT. I didn’t see a post. So…

AIBU to be puzzled that the man Taylor Swift has finally decided to settle down with is so different to the type she has seemed to date pretty consistently through her 20s and 30s up to then? She seemed so keen on soft, arty, mainly British boys - and now she’s gone for the direct opposite. Is it because her previous long relationship with a soft, arty British boy (Joe Alwyn) didn’t go the distance and so she decided she really needed to change her type if she wanted marriage and kids? Is it a fairly cynical marketing reaction to the current political situation in the States (no idea if TK is actually a Republican but he looks like someone who could appeal to Republicans, very much unlike Joe Alwyn)? Is it just a return to her American, country roots? What gives? I’m her age and I just can’t imagine my tastes changing as dramatically as that.

We used to like the same type of man, and now I feel like I don’t know her any more (I know, I know, I know) 🤣

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HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 30/08/2025 08:13

UnhappyHobbit · 29/08/2025 21:06

Settling for someone that’s not her usual type for the sake of marriage and babies.

I married someone who was the opposite of my usual type. Best thing I ever did.

BlueEyedBogWitch · 30/08/2025 08:21

UnhappyHobbit · 29/08/2025 20:19

I get the impression she’s settling.

Wish I’d settled for a multi-millionaire who’s built like a bear who clearly adored the ground I walked on.

I could live with that.

Ivy888 · 30/08/2025 08:26

LouisaJG · 27/08/2025 17:52

Yeah but my point is the falling seriously and long-term in love with someone who is the polar opposite of everyone you have dated in the past. That isn’t something I’ve experienced, and it’s not something I’ve witnessed often with friends, I can think of maybe one example max in my personal circle. It’s strange to me.

You don’t know the guys she dated. Only what they look like. Not their personalities and who they truely are in their personal life. It’s a bit shallow to judge people on their looks alone.

JHound · 30/08/2025 12:36

UnhappyHobbit · 29/08/2025 21:06

Settling for someone that’s not her usual type for the sake of marriage and babies.

Are children allowed to have Mumsnet accounts?

”Types”?

Dear God.

Umidontknow · 30/08/2025 12:52

LouisaJG · 27/08/2025 17:52

Yeah but my point is the falling seriously and long-term in love with someone who is the polar opposite of everyone you have dated in the past. That isn’t something I’ve experienced, and it’s not something I’ve witnessed often with friends, I can think of maybe one example max in my personal circle. It’s strange to me.

It's really common for people to have longer term relationships with people who aren't their usual type especially if they've had several unsuccessful relationships with people who they consider to be their type. What we fancy isn't always good for us -Just like cheesecake

Zodiacrobat · 30/08/2025 15:38

BlueEyedBogWitch · 30/08/2025 08:21

Wish I’d settled for a multi-millionaire who’s built like a bear who clearly adored the ground I walked on.

I could live with that.

Haha yes please, can I settle for one too.

It’s ridiculous to say she’s “settling”. She could have literally anyone. They are obviously in love if you take 10 minutes to look at them together rather than going off social media headlines.

KenAdams · 31/08/2025 01:06

LyndaLaHughes · 28/08/2025 22:26

Anyone who has doubts over this relationship needs to watch the podcast. They are clearly very happy and mad about each other. Travis did something she has been wanting for a long time- he made it very clear her was interested publicly and romantically and wooed her. Taylor was encouraged to meet him by mutual friends as he is considered to be a genuine good guy.
He is not intimidated by her success - in fact he’s in awe of it and has huge admiration for her. He’s made that very clear. He’s confident enough to put her on a pedestal and shout his feelings from the rooftop. That’s incredibly attractive. They have incredibly similar values and are very family orientated. His brother is also lovely and that shines through on their podcast.
Travis Kelce and his family are not republicans and are very left leaning. His sister in law Kylie has been very clear about her support for the democrats.
I find the negative comments about her sad but I do get it to an extent. Before my daughters became swifties, I knew little about her and had only heard songs like “Shake it Off” and “Love Story” and believed the media narrative of airhead serial dater with vacuous music. She is constantly slagged off and belittled and not given the credit for what an astute businesswoman and gifted songwriter she is. Well- I’m very glad to have had a chance to change my mind. From buying tickets to the ERAS tour for my daughters to now, my perception has totally changed. Firstly, I actually listened to her music - especially the lyrics and realised what an incredible talent she is. From songs like “Bigger than the whole sky” which is a must listen for any woman who has suffered a miscarriage or a loss to “The smallest man who ever lived” for anyone who has had their heart broken by an arsehole and a plethora of incredible songs - especially lyrically- in between that are so relatable. They certainly aren’t all about men or break ups. There is a reason people study her lyrics in universities now. TTPD is just incredible. Next, I started to pay more attention to her as a person and realised what a genuinely decent human being she is. She is kind and thoughtful and really values her fans. Yes she is a PR expert and a very smart business woman but she’s also just a nice person. She does huge amounts for charity and the big indicator for me is how she treats her staff from the bottom of the ladder up. Just look at the huge bonuses she paid the truck drivers on her tour. Yes she can afford it- but she still did it. The reason her fans are so loyal and supportive of her is because they know all of this. It’s not some deluded “she can do no wrong” cult- it’s evidence based admiration. I’m delighted this is who my girls have as a role model and think she deserves this happiness. I knew some of her songs before the ERAS tour concert and had started to like her music but came away blown away and a huge fan. It is the most incredible concert I have ever seen and I doubt it will ever be beaten. Three and a half hours of full in performance and great vocals. She trained for it by singing the full setlist whilst running on a treadmill every day for months. Apart from Vienna, she didn’t cancel a single show even when sick and managed to write a new album at the same time. That’s just unbelievable.
I would urge people to watch the New Heights Podcast with her and see how it changes your perception. I guarantee you will come away interested in her music and liking her (and Travis) as a person. Jason Kelce did a superb job interviewing them and I hope he gets an opportunity to use his natural talent at this elsewhere.
So sorry it’s long, but I’m really glad I got a second chance to become a fan thanks to my daughters, who were determined to make me get it and succeeded pretty easily once I actually gave her a chance and kept an open mind.

Imagine any of us on this thread doing all that, but women would rather criticise her and support the narrative that anything we do is never enough. We need to stop being our own worst enemies. The owning your own music issue is so important for artists to understand. Look up how S Club 7 made hardly anything because of their poorly negotiated contracts.

She's not settling, it's just that as non American football fans you can't really grasp how good he is at the position he plays.

Oh and the "leaked memo" was an assignment someone did for a PR course, it was not real. She is absolutely hated by Trump and the like (although he did surprisingly call her a great person the other day), so attempts in the press to discredit her aren't surprisingly.

They have great chemistry, their families gel well and if Kylie, Jasons wife is any indicator, the Kelces aren't scared of strong women in the family.

You can tell when it just looks right, I'm sure people have seen it with their own friends and this just looks right. I wish them well.

Endoftheroad12345 · 31/08/2025 04:06

I’m extremely invested in their relationship and love her music, despite being not young (a geriatric millennial as one of my team at work kindly put it). Her timeline with TK mirrors mine with my own partner, so even more reason for me to feel affinity with my close personal friend Taylor.

My partner is a very clean cut, straightforward, kind man who has a typically macho job, very tall, built like a tank and has never so much as smoked a cigarette. And totally adores me.

My previous “type” was weedy, arrogant and privileged and their default setting was being mean to me. Our primary shared interest when we got together in our 20s was going out on the lash. I definitely prefer life with my new “type”.

Also I don’t think TK is a republican - if he is he’s very moderate. He appeared in a campaign promoting Covid vaccinations. He seems like a lovely man. Also look at the size of his hands 🥵

UnhappyHobbit · 31/08/2025 11:53

JHound · 30/08/2025 12:36

Are children allowed to have Mumsnet accounts?

”Types”?

Dear God.

Yes, “types”!

It’s a word adults use when discussing relationships, as you can see from reading this thread.

I know it’s a tricky concept, but don’t worry, you’ll get to there eventually.

Lolalaboucheridesagain · 01/09/2025 07:55

Same thing happened to me. I always fancied arty, gentle, skinny boys (Jarvis Cocker was my pin up), went out with a few and generally had a lovely time. Then met my 6’3”, broad shouldered & generally very masculine husband at work- became his friend, fell in love etc etc- now 20 years on my brain has rewired and I mostly fancy big hunky men. Attraction is a funny thing.

Sparks654 · 29/09/2025 09:38

LouisaJG · 27/08/2025 17:45

I’m in my 30s and so unreasonable to be posting/caring about this on every level. BUT. I didn’t see a post. So…

AIBU to be puzzled that the man Taylor Swift has finally decided to settle down with is so different to the type she has seemed to date pretty consistently through her 20s and 30s up to then? She seemed so keen on soft, arty, mainly British boys - and now she’s gone for the direct opposite. Is it because her previous long relationship with a soft, arty British boy (Joe Alwyn) didn’t go the distance and so she decided she really needed to change her type if she wanted marriage and kids? Is it a fairly cynical marketing reaction to the current political situation in the States (no idea if TK is actually a Republican but he looks like someone who could appeal to Republicans, very much unlike Joe Alwyn)? Is it just a return to her American, country roots? What gives? I’m her age and I just can’t imagine my tastes changing as dramatically as that.

We used to like the same type of man, and now I feel like I don’t know her any more (I know, I know, I know) 🤣

I think it's that he went after her and went old school flattery with her, on a big scale. Flowers, big ovations and public gestures. She liked to be seen as someone he is proud of, and someone who talks about her as "my lady, my girl". In the end she didn't really want all the woke stuff she was singing about 6-7 years ago when she was with Joe. I like Travis, he seems like a positive guy. Is he milking the new found plus one fame? Yes, but Taylor has given ttat the green light it seems.

LouisaJG · 29/09/2025 10:31

Sparks654 · 29/09/2025 09:38

I think it's that he went after her and went old school flattery with her, on a big scale. Flowers, big ovations and public gestures. She liked to be seen as someone he is proud of, and someone who talks about her as "my lady, my girl". In the end she didn't really want all the woke stuff she was singing about 6-7 years ago when she was with Joe. I like Travis, he seems like a positive guy. Is he milking the new found plus one fame? Yes, but Taylor has given ttat the green light it seems.

What woke stuff?

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DashboardConfession · 29/09/2025 10:40

LouisaJG · 29/09/2025 10:31

What woke stuff?

I'm trying to pin this down too! I think "Lover" (which I have never liked) was quite a conventional album about relationships.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 29/09/2025 14:24

@LouisaJG @DashboardConfession I'm assuming it's a clumsy attempt critiquing her support for the lefty stuff like supporting Joe Biden, LGBTQ+ and feminism etc.
Joe Alwin was a definite lefty but I'm not sure about Travis.
I think it's more complicated to be a famous American sportsman where politics is concerned , compared to a British actor.
I could be wrong though.

DashboardConfession · 29/09/2025 20:31

Doingtheboxerbeat · 29/09/2025 14:24

@LouisaJG @DashboardConfession I'm assuming it's a clumsy attempt critiquing her support for the lefty stuff like supporting Joe Biden, LGBTQ+ and feminism etc.
Joe Alwin was a definite lefty but I'm not sure about Travis.
I think it's more complicated to be a famous American sportsman where politics is concerned , compared to a British actor.
I could be wrong though.

Travis politely avoids slagging off Trump but has generally shown he is left-leaning. Notably being one of the first white players to take a knee, and appearing in LGBT-focused sketches on SNL.

He can't really come out and say that though. Kansas City votes Republican.

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