Is anyone better off since Labour

[Luckymum20]

I am not just talking financially but feeling optimistic about the future for children, old age.

With the £22 billion debt now pasing £50 billion.

The increase in Council tax (that they said the wouldn't do). OAPs raid on pensions and no Winter fuel relief. Changes to finance regarding care homes. Utilities up. TV licence up. Food costs up...

I know minimum wage has increased but all costs have increased by a greater amount!

In 2021 minimum wage was almost 30% lower than it is now...

So I ask. Is anyone actually feeling better off, optimistic and pleased with this Government.

Also the October budget of likely to bring more stains on the 'average working man"

YABU - change will happen. It a good thing.

YANBU - not good

I’m better off. Interests rates improved, my mortgage went down. NHS pay awards meant some more money. Our investments have performed well.

But that’s just me.

I don’t believe any political party can ‘fix’ the economic destruction of the last 10yrs so this prevents me from getting too emotionally invested in any government.

The most recent Tories, however, behaved in such morally deplorable and destructive ways that I don’t believe anyone could feasible top it.

I think people don’t understand wha my an IMF bailout means. They think that this shower is shit government can go on borrowing and printing money. They can’t. The markets are telling Reeves that they think she is even worse than Liz Truss. They are literally saying this by hiking borrowing rates for the UK following the disastrous budget last autumn.

If the IMF steps in, all those fiscally ignorant will find the conditions imposed by IMF far more painful than anything. Pension age raised to above 70, benefits cut deep, like really deep, no more ploughing of billions into the black hole that is the NHS.

It should be noted that when we bring the IMF in (and that’s when, not if), Starmer’s recent welfare cuts were so minor in comparison with what’s coming. I really wish more people could see the disaster in front of us, we’re heading for turbulent times.

Yes all the illegal immigrants

Welfare needs to be cut to the bone. We need to get people working again. The link between money and work needs to be restored.

IN what jobs? I think there are twice as many job seekers to the vacancies out there. That is people who are looking for work.
You cant force employers to take on disabled people

It will be - it’s inevitable. There’ll come a point in the next couple of years when the whole thing collapses. And the welfare state will be the first thing to be cut, it’s a luxury we won’t be able to afford.

There seems to be a lot of astroturfing going on on this site recently. The country was destroyed through austerity and Brexit. Not because of Labour.

But where are all the Employers with job vacancies who will employ disabled people? And aren't most people who receive Universal Credit already working?

I agree.

Bring back Liz Truss! All is forgiven!

This is a problem with the left’s endless drive for mass immigration. It floods us with low-skilled workers that we just don’t need. There aren’t enough jobs for that category of immigrant and it puts downward pressure on wages. We can have high levels of mass immigration or a welfare state, but not both. And we’ve chosen mass immigration, hence the imminent collapse of the welfare state.

Agree. Introduce no income tax for those earning low income maybe up to 25/30k & stop supplementing wages & income especially those working low hours & having their income topped up by UC, Same for those claiming to be a one parent home having incomes topped up by UC.

I wasn’t optimistic under the tories and certainly didn’t feel confident in their handling of the economy. Currently no worse off ( other than fairly usual rises in bills but this was happening under the Tories) and no better off.

The thing is they tried to implement policies that may have actually helped to deal with the ‘financial black hole’ but they get soooo much push back , particularly from the right wing press, that they’re screwed if they do and screwed if they don’t… so I feel like they are between a rock and a hard place.

If there was a bit more understanding from the general population that some cuts need to happen somewhere then maybe we would be moving forward. Taxes will likely rise which is not necessarily a bad thing…providing they are used to improve key services like education and the NHS but absolutely no one wants that either unless it’s taxing all those rich people (eg anyone on a salary bigger than mine).

And a large proportion of our welfare bill goes on housing benefit so how's that going to get fixed? You can have someone working 40 hours a week but earning nowhere near enough to pay the sky high rent.

More social housing?

Rents would lower if housing benefit was cut or abolished.

I dont think it would. Many people on housing benefit already have to make up the shortfall as the housing element they get does not cover the rent.
The rental market is crazy right now. Lots of people competing for one property. It took my boyfriend months after his sec21 was served to find a place.

I would genuinely love to see what would happen if we remove all the ‘low skilled’ immigrant workers from the UK and free up those jobs for those currently not working. It might be the only way we will understand and appreciate the role immigration plays in the UK. And get to see just how popular those ‘low skilled’ jobs are with our unemployed.

I’m not for uncontrolled immigration but I think the narrative about immigration in the UK right now is really toxic.

It’s a problem, isn’t it, when some people chose to believe we’re one of the richest countries in the world and not crippled with debt as we are. No one wants to face facts, and god forbid any politician or party tells the truth as they’d be crucified by the media and popular outrage. Cuts always need to happen elsewhere, to someone else, and someone else should always be taxed - no one is willing to accept any reduction in their standard of living and acknowledge we can’t pay for all this anymore.

Yes we do need much more social housing but the only developments going up are all private with a tiny proportion for supposedly affordable housing. It's all such a mess and goes right back to the Thatcher years.

How can we possibly afford to build it? That’s a pipe dream.

Looking at where I live, removing immigrants would free up take away delivery jobs on illegal bikes.

I know and that is sad.
Peoples mental health is better when they are in secure housing.

This is a joke, right?