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Is anyone better off since Labour

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Luckymum20 · 26/08/2025 20:26

I am not just talking financially but feeling optimistic about the future for children, old age.

With the £22 billion debt now pasing £50 billion.

The increase in Council tax (that they said the wouldn't do). OAPs raid on pensions and no Winter fuel relief. Changes to finance regarding care homes. Utilities up. TV licence up. Food costs up...

I know minimum wage has increased but all costs have increased by a greater amount!

In 2021 minimum wage was almost 30% lower than it is now...

So I ask. Is anyone actually feeling better off, optimistic and pleased with this Government.

Also the October budget of likely to bring more stains on the 'average working man"

YABU - change will happen. It a good thing.

YANBU - not good

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DisabledDemon · 26/08/2025 21:39

We're certainly not better off. Wish the whole lot of them were in Hell.

Whammyyammy · 26/08/2025 21:40

Keir Starmer, Rachel Reeves, Angela....

BallerinaRadio · 26/08/2025 21:42

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 26/08/2025 21:37

I kind of don't mind boring? 🤷For example I read they are bringing in more rights for workers next year.

No I agree. There's loads of boring things they've brought in, the sort of boring stuff that didn't make the Tories richer so they didn't bother

Theolittle · 26/08/2025 21:43

JollyUmberDeer · 26/08/2025 21:36

Of course they are.

Two Tier’s lawyer friends are raking it in from his immigration policies. Those benefitting from corrupt green subsidies. And Angela Rayner. She’s buying houses all over the place. What a socialist.

This is just ridiculous

AliciaLeeming · 26/08/2025 21:43

Far worse off here.

I'm self employed and all my costs have gone through the roof but my customers are also feeling the pinch and I just cannot afford to put my prices up enough to cover the additional costs. I'm struggling to get sales as it is.

Having lost access to the EU/EEA market earlier this year, I've now lost access to the US market this week.

Oldgalgames · 26/08/2025 21:46

Nope!

BettysRoasties · 26/08/2025 21:47

Definitely not better off and can’t say I’ve noticed an improvement anything locally either.

JollyUmberDeer · 26/08/2025 21:47

Theolittle · 26/08/2025 21:43

This is just ridiculous

I think you misspelled ‘true’.

PandoraSocks · 26/08/2025 21:47

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 26/08/2025 21:16

Tories were shite, this lot are just shite with chocolate sprinkles on top.

I would say I was disappointed, but I'm not because they are living down to the very low expectations I had for them. If anything, I'm surprised by just how quickly the arse has fallen out of it and just how quickly Starmer's popularity has completely tanked, because I thought they'd at least get through 18 months to 2 years before it got this bad, but "well played" I suppose.

Am I better off? No, but that's as much a facet of ongoing CoL as much as anything Labour has or hasn't done. I ambivalent about a lot of their policy, but what I can not accept or forgive is pandering to Reform-inclined idiots who would never vote for Labour in any case, just to be seen to be having some sort of response to immigration concerns. They should be distancing themselves from Reform at every juncture, not aping them, and calling out the rhetoric, dog-whistles, and straightforward lying at every single turn. They've even started using the same disingenuous, othering, and incendiary language, and that is wholly unforgiveable.

They haven't been handed an easy task, but still, it's possible to have next to no expectations for a government and still find them completely underwhelming, which is more or less where I am with them right now.

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what I can not accept or forgive is pandering to Reform-inclined idiots who would never vote for Labour in any case, just to be seen to be having some sort of response to immigration concerns. They should be distancing themselves from Reform at every juncture, not aping them, and calling out the rhetoric, dog-whistles, and straightforward lying at every single turn. They've even started using the same disingenuous, othering, and incendiary language, and that is wholly unforgiveable

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80smonster · 26/08/2025 21:55

What’s everyone feeling about the mansion tax? Surely this affects many? Lots of the ‘fixes’ Labour has implemented are slowing financial growth and industry, doesn’t seem wise to me, but I’m not an economist.

JollyUmberDeer · 26/08/2025 21:58

Unless you don’t eat then you are likely to be worse off since labour came to power.

Food inflation is higher now than pre Labour. Inflation overall is running double the target. Taxes are higher, unemployment is rising at worrying levels. Labour are making everyone poorer.

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 26/08/2025 21:58

BettysRoasties · 26/08/2025 21:47

Definitely not better off and can’t say I’ve noticed an improvement anything locally either.

You can hardly expect a year to be enough to repair fourteen years of austerity?

Magnoliabuttons · 26/08/2025 21:59

ExpressCheckout · 26/08/2025 21:11

I didn't vote for them, but I now am keeping my fingers crossed given the rise of Reform and all that entails, particularly after hearing Farage today.

Rachel needs to break her fiscal rules, I'm afraid. Instead of tinkering around the edges cutting here and there, she needs to wear her big girl pants and:

Raise income tax across the board by (say) 1% for normal rate and (say) 1.5% for higher rate tax payers. This boil needs lancing right now.

Introduce split-level VAT. Standard rate as it currently applies, but a higher rate for certain goods, e.g. cars over a certain price, long-haul flights etc.

Reduce business rates and employer NI for SMEs, small businesses etc. and incentivise employer/school/college links with further tax relief.

Extend and increase the digital services tax aggressively (Apple, Amazon, etc.).

Extend maternity/paternity support and provide tax incentives or university fee waivers for people having children below (say) 30 years of age.

Suspend Raynor's Employment Rights Bill. Yes, it could be helpful, but not right now. We need to grow the economy first, which means business first.

AND Labour absolutely must improve their political communication and be proactive in dealing with the threat from Reform. I am gobsmacked how utterly poor their communications are. They are losing every debate at the moment, but it doesn't take much more than a tiny brain to pick apart Farage's politics.

Who are you? Can you go into politics please? This is a strong and convincing post.

phoenixrosehere · 26/08/2025 22:08

NotEnoughKnittingTime · 26/08/2025 21:58

You can hardly expect a year to be enough to repair fourteen years of austerity?

This!

I always find it strange how people expect everything to be fixed quicker than the time it took to go downhill.

abracadabra1980 · 26/08/2025 22:08

To be honest, our only 'main contenders' as political parties have been an absolute shit show during their terms in office. It concerns me greatly that none of the current cabinet have ever owned or run their own business. I was done with lying and hypocrisy, with Boris, but now we have a Housing Minister who is punishing second home owners as they clearly see them as an easy target, but has just bought her third. (Personally I think there should be a cap on owning more than one home, but I can't say how many that should be - not qualified to do so. I have lived through observed all typers of government, and would be considered a floating voter; I've no loyalty to anyone, but will vote for who I think will benefit myself and my family in the coming years. So back to Labour. They are the party who will just borrow, and tax the middle classes and when the Tories get back in, they have to put us back into austerity to start reducing the world debt, and obviously the interest rates we owe the world banks. Life was reasonably good pre-pandemic, as inflation was low, (austerity) and we hadn't had anything since World War II to really stick us up shit creek for the foreseeable (banking crash in 2008 perhaps), So along comes Covid; THEN, unbeknownst to any run of the mill British citizen, Russia invaded Ukraine, therefore our cheap gas supplies ended literally overnight. That has had a massive impact on most of us as we can't live without it.
I don't think Brexit has helped, albeit I was a Brexiteer - it was executed very poorly but I still now, think we should be a sovereign country, making our own laws without being influenced one way or another by Europe, which we were, whilst in the EU. I'd like to think things will get better, but sadly in my lifetime I don't think they will. The internet/social media/AI has changed our lives, and how people can contact one another so easily, for ever, and none of it is good for humanity, or communities and social cohesion. Add to that climate change - and people are migrating more now than ever before, as their home continents are ravaged by floods, fire, war, poverty and the rest. We should be thankful we have the shitty governing we have in some respects, but most people want controlled borders and a few quid left to spend in the economy after pay day. The middle classes are almost being squeezed into poverty for good. Apologies for the long reply; it all interests me and my main focus is to now vote for whoever I think will benefit my children's lives.

JollyUmberDeer · 26/08/2025 22:10

Magnoliabuttons · 26/08/2025 21:59

Who are you? Can you go into politics please? This is a strong and convincing post.

Where’s is the string or convincing part? You can’t tax your way to growth. Never works.

JollyUmberDeer · 26/08/2025 22:11

phoenixrosehere · 26/08/2025 22:08

This!

I always find it strange how people expect everything to be fixed quicker than the time it took to go downhill.

People are annoyed about Labour trashing the economy further in a year. Not that they haven’t fixed it.

IwanttotakeyoutoaNailaBar · 26/08/2025 22:15

Thortour · 26/08/2025 20:54

I’m not as angry. I like that they are putting in place policies I agree with.
I like that private school fees are subject to VAT. We have been screwed by the Tories and Brexit. The right wing media is out to get them.
We need to face what Brexit has done.
I fear how stupid the electorate is and the massive amount of money going in to discrediting Labour in the press and social media.
I genuinely believe there has been a concerted effort to infiltrate Mumsnet with anti Labour posters.
Also food prices are going to sky rocket because of Climate Change. This has been an appalling years for farmers.

So what have Labour done to help farmers?

I’m no better or worse off. I earn just above the minimum wage so poorer. But DH who relies on massive corporations having money to burn has had a bumper year.

skippy67 · 26/08/2025 22:17

Theolittle · 26/08/2025 21:43

This is just ridiculous

Yep.

Hedgehogbrown · 26/08/2025 22:25

I'll be better off when they stop pretending to hate immigrants. Stuck in a different country because the spouse visa rules are so strict that I can't come back to my own country with my family. Thought Labour would change that.

Also, what has happened to the west coast mainline train? It's utter shit now. So when they nationalised that I'll be happy.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 26/08/2025 22:26

Theolittle · 26/08/2025 21:43

This is just ridiculous

The funniest bit is the assertion this iteration of the Labour Party are in any way Socialist or have ever made any claim to be.

Starmer's lot spent years fabricating all sorts of nonsense just to force the few remaining Socialists out of the Labour Party, and yet still there are people on this site who insist Labour is the "loony Left" and so on. The ignorance truly is astounding.

Bushmillsbabe · 26/08/2025 22:27

JollyUmberDeer · 26/08/2025 22:11

People are annoyed about Labour trashing the economy further in a year. Not that they haven’t fixed it.

This! I didn't expect miracles, but I didn't expect things to get worse.
In real terms over past year

  • my children's primary school budget - cut
  • my nhs teams budget - cut
  • dH's council team budget - cut
  • our COL - up
  • our council tax - up
  • our mortgage- up

Hope is rapidly dwindling, and fears that reform will get in if labour don't get a handle on this fast - up

Viviennemary · 26/08/2025 22:28

Angela Rayner She's just bought a second home for £800k.

redsunsets · 26/08/2025 22:35

I'm better off by 27k a year. My DS is no longer at private school but at a selective state sixth form. That money is no longer circulating in the economy as it goes into my pension and abroad on foreign holidays. Won't be for long as Rachel is looking at thieving that away to fill her deficit due to economic mismanagemnt. I had hoped they would grow the economy but sadly you can't tax your way to growth and everything she's done so far has stifled growth and I can't see that changing and try to be optimistic but that's very difficult.

labamba18 · 26/08/2025 22:37

Own a business - employer NI has made me worse off.

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