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Is anyone better off since Labour

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Luckymum20 · 26/08/2025 20:26

I am not just talking financially but feeling optimistic about the future for children, old age.

With the £22 billion debt now pasing £50 billion.

The increase in Council tax (that they said the wouldn't do). OAPs raid on pensions and no Winter fuel relief. Changes to finance regarding care homes. Utilities up. TV licence up. Food costs up...

I know minimum wage has increased but all costs have increased by a greater amount!

In 2021 minimum wage was almost 30% lower than it is now...

So I ask. Is anyone actually feeling better off, optimistic and pleased with this Government.

Also the October budget of likely to bring more stains on the 'average working man"

YABU - change will happen. It a good thing.

YANBU - not good

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BIossomtoes · 03/09/2025 09:26

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 03/09/2025 09:21

We wouldn’t be worse off under the Tories. The markets, polls, betting odds and foreign media have made their decisions based on Labours performance. They all agree.

There still wouldn’t be any money. Junior doctors would be entering their third year of strikes. We’d definitely be worse off with a Tory government because they’d have cut taxes and slashed and burnt what’s left of the public services Cameron and Osborne decimated.

BoudiccaRuled · 03/09/2025 09:54

Angela Raynor is a lot better off having dodged second home stamp duty buying that place in Brighton.
She's a pig with her nose in the trough.

BIossomtoes · 03/09/2025 09:57

BoudiccaRuled · 03/09/2025 09:54

Angela Raynor is a lot better off having dodged second home stamp duty buying that place in Brighton.
She's a pig with her nose in the trough.

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It’s the only property she owns. In what world would second home stamp duty be payable?

Nestingbirds · 03/09/2025 10:48

BIossomtoes · 03/09/2025 09:57

It’s the only property she owns. In what world would second home stamp duty be payable?

That is false. Angela Raynor has her right to buy property in Ashton, she also has a tax payer funded apartment in Whitehall, and has just bought a property in Brighton. She currently has three homes at least. To be factual.

www.heraldscotland.com/news/25413474.angela-rayner-occupies-three-homes-buys-seaside-flat/

Nestingbirds · 03/09/2025 10:50

BIossomtoes · 03/09/2025 09:26

There still wouldn’t be any money. Junior doctors would be entering their third year of strikes. We’d definitely be worse off with a Tory government because they’d have cut taxes and slashed and burnt what’s left of the public services Cameron and Osborne decimated.

You are always on here just bare faced lying, Labour are RUINING this country. Look at the cost of borrowing. It’s horrendous! Going from bad to even worse.

1dayatatime · 03/09/2025 10:56

I think the key difference between a Labour Government and a Conservative Government is that under the Tories economically we are ALL better off except there is greater inequality so some benefit much more than others.

Whereas under Labour we are ALL worse off except there is less inequality so we are ALL worse off.

Julen7 · 03/09/2025 10:58

1dayatatime · 03/09/2025 10:56

I think the key difference between a Labour Government and a Conservative Government is that under the Tories economically we are ALL better off except there is greater inequality so some benefit much more than others.

Whereas under Labour we are ALL worse off except there is less inequality so we are ALL worse off.

Yes said it before but Labour = “if we can’t all be rich let’s all be equally poor”

HappiestSleeping · 03/09/2025 12:09

@ThatWaryOchreQuoter @TheNuthatch I am the opposite. The Conservatives cost me my job with Brexshit, nearly my house and pension with the Trussterfuck.

I am rebuilding slowly, but am no better or worse because of what Labour have done. Overall, I see the positives, lower waiting lists, migration processing faster, improved funding to local services, none of which would have happened under Conservatives.

I don't see any verifiable data to suggest that the Conservatives would have been able to manage the debacle they created any differently. And the fact that they had steered the country into the iceberg for so long would have logic suggest that we would have hit it head on.

Nestingbirds · 03/09/2025 12:29

Julen7 · 03/09/2025 10:58

Yes said it before but Labour = “if we can’t all be rich let’s all be equally poor”

This in a nutshell ⬆️

Nestingbirds · 03/09/2025 12:30

The misery is evenly distributed. I will give them that much …

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 03/09/2025 12:37

Julen7 · 03/09/2025 10:58

Yes said it before but Labour = “if we can’t all be rich let’s all be equally poor”

Exactly right. It’s crabs in a bucket.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 03/09/2025 12:45

HappiestSleeping · 03/09/2025 12:09

@ThatWaryOchreQuoter @TheNuthatch I am the opposite. The Conservatives cost me my job with Brexshit, nearly my house and pension with the Trussterfuck.

I am rebuilding slowly, but am no better or worse because of what Labour have done. Overall, I see the positives, lower waiting lists, migration processing faster, improved funding to local services, none of which would have happened under Conservatives.

I don't see any verifiable data to suggest that the Conservatives would have been able to manage the debacle they created any differently. And the fact that they had steered the country into the iceberg for so long would have logic suggest that we would have hit it head on.

I don't see any verifiable data to suggest that the Conservatives would have been able to manage the debacle they created any differently

The conservatives recognise you can’t tax your way to growth and you can’t be a prosperous country by demonising this middle class and net tax payers. These two principles alone suggest we would be better off under conservatives, but its mute point anyway...Labour are in charge.

IllBeLookingAtTheMoon · 03/09/2025 14:15

I can't believe people still argue on the basis that there is any discernible difference between these two.

Both stinking, corrupt, clueless, authoritarian, anti-democratic

Nestingbirds · 03/09/2025 14:16

BIossomtoes · 03/09/2025 09:57

It’s the only property she owns. In what world would second home stamp duty be payable?

Are you not embarrassed that the bbc are currently running Angela’s failure to pay for a second home!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/crm4mxrg40pt

BIossomtoes · 03/09/2025 14:23

Nestingbirds · 03/09/2025 14:16

Are you not embarrassed that the bbc are currently running Angela’s failure to pay for a second home!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/crm4mxrg40pt

Are you not embarrassed that you think that’s what the furore is about?

Nestingbirds · 03/09/2025 15:25

BIossomtoes · 03/09/2025 14:23

Are you not embarrassed that you think that’s what the furore is about?

So what is it about apart from highlighting a corrupt Labour government?

Nestingbirds · 03/09/2025 15:26

You have some cheek blossom - anyone else would have apologised for their mistake.

BIossomtoes · 03/09/2025 15:34

Nestingbirds · 03/09/2025 15:26

You have some cheek blossom - anyone else would have apologised for their mistake.

I haven’t made one. I didn’t say Rayner had failed to pay for second home. You did. She hasn’t paid enough stamp duty on her only home because apparently the trust arrangement for her son has muddied the water. She owns one home.

HappiestSleeping · 03/09/2025 17:22

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 03/09/2025 12:45

I don't see any verifiable data to suggest that the Conservatives would have been able to manage the debacle they created any differently

The conservatives recognise you can’t tax your way to growth and you can’t be a prosperous country by demonising this middle class and net tax payers. These two principles alone suggest we would be better off under conservatives, but its mute point anyway...Labour are in charge.

But they also recognise that public services suffer under their 'leadership'. Or at least, the rest of us do.

The money has to come from somewhere.

HappiestSleeping · 03/09/2025 17:24

IllBeLookingAtTheMoon · 03/09/2025 14:15

I can't believe people still argue on the basis that there is any discernible difference between these two.

Both stinking, corrupt, clueless, authoritarian, anti-democratic

I agree that they are both clueless. I never expected to see politics descend into the least worst in my lifetime, but here we are.

Plinketyplonky · 22/10/2025 11:43

Nope. I am categorically worse off and dreading the next budget. For the first time in my life, I am actively looking into options to emigrate.

MumOfManyAliases · 22/10/2025 20:30

I’m really cheesed of with this Government. I feel like they’ve made so many mistakes since they won the election. And they’ve implemented several big changes which were not stated in their election manifesto - Digital ID for one, and tax rises another.

OonaStubbs · 22/10/2025 21:49

Labour are supposed to represent working people. I don't know who they represent anymore but it isn't the workers.

taxguru · 23/10/2025 18:51

OonaStubbs · 22/10/2025 21:49

Labour are supposed to represent working people. I don't know who they represent anymore but it isn't the workers.

Unionised public sector workers. Other workers, and especially self employed, don't matter to them. They have to do what their Union paymasters tell them to.

taxguru · 23/10/2025 18:52

HappiestSleeping · 03/09/2025 17:24

I agree that they are both clueless. I never expected to see politics descend into the least worst in my lifetime, but here we are.

Not just that, but regardless of party colour, just when you think the standard of current politicians (last 25 years!) can't get any worse, they surprise us with even more incompetence.

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