Is anyone better off since Labour

[Luckymum20]

I am not just talking financially but feeling optimistic about the future for children, old age.

With the £22 billion debt now pasing £50 billion.

The increase in Council tax (that they said the wouldn't do). OAPs raid on pensions and no Winter fuel relief. Changes to finance regarding care homes. Utilities up. TV licence up. Food costs up...

I know minimum wage has increased but all costs have increased by a greater amount!

In 2021 minimum wage was almost 30% lower than it is now...

So I ask. Is anyone actually feeling better off, optimistic and pleased with this Government.

Also the October budget of likely to bring more stains on the 'average working man"

YABU - change will happen. It a good thing.

YANBU - not good

British workers did do these jobs for hundreds of years before mass immigration began. What does it matter that these jobs might not be popular? They’re jobs that need doing, and will pay a wage. It smacks of racism to say that we need to import workers to do the jobs the British won’t do - of course they can do them, and they should.

I agree, I think it’s possibly the single most important foundation in a person’s life… a home, a secure home. So many other problems arise when we don’t have that solid base to work from.

I’m going to be better off soon. Priced out of private schools so now my kids are all in state costing the tax payer c£25k a year.
Now I don’t need to pay school fees I am going to quit working in the next 12 months and I will be able to claim child benefit and have more time at home with my children. If they decide to go to Uni we will also now get help with the cost - not how I imagined things would pan out but now I will be paying c£60k less tax a year and the tax payer will be covering c£30k additional costs for me and I will get to stay home - hurrah!! My job won’t disappear so someone else can have it

Are those the same able bodied British people who claim benefits instead of actually working? I think you are underestimating how lazy the british are.

Overall I would say I am better off
I am paying more tax and costs are going up, but they've made lots of positive changes both for the short and longer term in terms of public services, which I value
I didn't vote for them
They are crap at publicising the positive things though and have scored some massive own goals
They have faced some major issues in foreign policy and trade ( mostly due to the orange baffoon) and have dealt with them much better than I would have thought. I am frustrated over cutting foreign aid though, again due to trump
I despise farage

Yes the Maslow hierarchy of needs. Shelter is at the bottom so very important.

If they start charging builders and trades proper tax they might be able to afford to build social housing, just an idea...

are you implying that builders and trades people dont pay tax?

That’s a nice generalisation about a nation 🙄

Well, people can’t have it both ways - they can’t say they dislike high levels of low-skilled immigration while being unwilling to fill these roles themselves. Them’s the breaks. If they don’t want others doing the job, they’ll have to crack on and do it themselves.

Not implying - stating. Everyone who has a home has been told if they pay cash in hand they'll do it cheaper/quicker/actually turn up by every trade under the sun. Don't even try to make out they don't all do it.

But people will do that if it is cheaper.

Labour always spend more and tax more. I'd prefer less spending and lower tax. Let people decide how to spend their own hard earned money.

The repercussions and tax lost mean that the rest of us all have to make up for with cuts to services. These men also get the state to pay for their kids on quite a large scale too - obviously because they only earn the minimum wage on the books and CSM isn't fit for purpose. Double win for the men.

And they certainly aren't spending it on the things that make paying more taxes feel worthwhile so you feel like you're getting shafted from both sides.

I honestly don’t even know where we’d begin with social housing. We can’t possibly build what we need. The scale of the project would be monumental, like nothing we’ve ever seen in this country. Social housing is probably one of those things that will cease to exist, however. We’ve had more immigration in the last 20 years than in the last 1000 - we need to be building a city the size of Liverpool each year to house just these new arrivals, never mind the existing population. This is never, ever going to happen.

Agreed. But Reeves will have to break her promises and increase tax. She’s exhausted every other option - there’s nothing left. People will resent the hell out of it, but - she’s got no choice.

Which is exactly why I’d like to remove immigrants from the workforce for a short period so people can genuinely see the role they play. Because so many people see it the way you do.

I'm glad I'm not the only one to share this view. GB put half the country on to benefits and look where that has got us.

Building more social housing would be a sticking plaster. It would just get filled up and then we'd be back in the same position a few year down the road.

I can’t actually share my true opinion of that odious man. He’s been open about the fact he wanted to embed the welfare state by roping everyone into it in some form. Child benefit, winter fuel allowance, bus passes, tv licenses etc… all luxury items we just can’t afford anymore. We never really could.

You say the benefits should be cut. What happens to the people relying on them? Homelessness and suicides would rocket.

But if the British workforce filled those roles - what would be the problem? That would be a societal good, no? We don’t have enough low-skilled jobs for both British people and immigrants.

Filled the roles of zero hour contracts. A lot of people would still be claiming benefits anwyay/

I've seen my minimum wage go up so I've got more money.
I've also seen an increase in police walking the streets during the day, your "bobbies on the beat" type thing you used to see years ago which is nice.
So yeah, things are looking a bit better from my end.

But what you see as the solution here? Benefits have to be cut - there’s no other way.

The IMF will be called in at some point; we can’t sustain our welfare state spending. Their cuts will be brutal beyond most people’s imaginations. We’ve tried to stretch our finite resources too far - this is the result. We don’t have enough to go around and can’t properly support the people who depend on state support.