Is anyone better off since Labour

[Luckymum20]

I am not just talking financially but feeling optimistic about the future for children, old age.

With the £22 billion debt now pasing £50 billion.

The increase in Council tax (that they said the wouldn't do). OAPs raid on pensions and no Winter fuel relief. Changes to finance regarding care homes. Utilities up. TV licence up. Food costs up...

I know minimum wage has increased but all costs have increased by a greater amount!

In 2021 minimum wage was almost 30% lower than it is now...

So I ask. Is anyone actually feeling better off, optimistic and pleased with this Government.

Also the October budget of likely to bring more stains on the 'average working man"

YABU - change will happen. It a good thing.

YANBU - not good

I have no idea what balloon therapy is.

And who are you referring to - “you guys” - how can you possibly know who or what I voted for? 😄

But that's a different question as they are in government. As opposition you can say anything (clearly) and get away with it, whatever BS you want, namely the opposite of the governing party. Sadly, as Politics is now just another form of entertainment, the calibre of Reform really fit the bill but they are not of substance. As has been stated by many anti Labour (pro Reform?) posters on this thread, we aren't really to believe anything Farage says are we as I thought it has been explained that he is just the 'piper'?

Yes Labour said lots of things in opposition 🤣 Lots of tweets too, none of them age well eg WASPI women, WFA, taxes, donations and bribes, tax loopholes.....the list is endless.

Dismissing every poll for the next four years isn’t ‘realism’, it’s denial. The public mood matters now because it shapes the narrative, drives media coverage, and pressures parties long before a ballot is cast. If Reform keeps gaining ground, that forces both Labour and the Tories to respond today - not in 2029. Momentum builds in the wilderness years, and the complacent always wake up too late.

Yep, they said plenty when they were opposition didn’t they! But every big pledge turns to dust the moment they’re tested. Scroll their old statements and it’s a graveyard of broken promises - opposition Labour talks big, government Labour delivers nothing.

I didn’t say ignore the polls for four years. I said they were meaningless this far out from a general election. I don’t want a government responding to every uptick for Reform and dragging the Overton Window inexorably right. I want a government focused on fulfilling its manifesto promises not dancing to Farage’s tune. The media coverage is also irrelevant because, like many posters here, the majority of mainstream media has no interest in even attempting objectivity.

I suspect most of the complacency lies with the poll watchers rejoicing in the rise of the turquoise bar and assuming it will continue undeterred.

Reform are apparently the 'opposition' now with their four seats, they can say what they want according to this thread as it is all fiction and is some kind of ego trip for Farage. I will try and find the posts on this thread asserting this..

Ooo fun I will find all the tweets from Labour slagging off the Toroes fir doing exactly what they have done
Fun game!

While I'm at it I will find all the posts calling Reform supporters "racist twats"......

Actually, it's a bit boring but it was something to do with the taxes to Taliban and how he (NF) is just winding us all up.

However I've found some humdingers of tweets from Labour......and some corker posts from MN recently especially comments around "fuckwits" and "racist twats" but it doesn't look like you want to play the game now?

No, I took your implied advice and didn't want to be boring.

I think the pp is talking about me. @Goldenbear Do you remember Starmer pledging to abolish tuition fees? Abolish the House of Lords, abolish universal credit? They say lots of things when they want power.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/keir-starmer-labour-leadership-pledges-promises-b1078220.html

Effective tax rate of 51% for us and Rachel from Accounts imagining all sorts of new ways to disincentivise work effort and business growth and ways of stealing already taxed money? Massive flight of wealth from the UK?

Not feeling optimistic one bit

I think that was a wise decision

I mean it's The Standard so need I say more, who are they owned by again?

If Reform gets in, do you not think they'll be flight of people that don't want to live under a Reform government, that pay top rates of tax?

I know it's the standard, but it gives you a list of some of the promises Starmer made which have since evaporated. Making the point that promises are best taken with a pinch of salt. Are you not even prepared to read because you have instantly dismissed the source? I'm sure Starmer's pledges are listed elsewhere too.

They are:
The 6500 teachers was a good one

I can't read.

No I'm not better off and I'm bloody scared as to what's getting taken next.
Things were very slowly starting to improve under sunak

Now under this tsunami of negatively and misery things are plummeting...

Schools and fe are suffering under the ni tax , and the salary increases are mostly self funded

Everything is contracting and today there has been massive bank issues

The Govt is funding these increases in education, inc colleges, same with NHS, my DD has seen new med staff taken on in last 6 months.

What "massive" bank issues? are my savings still safe? or should i nip down the local ATM? maybe there is a queue?

What tax/spending cut would you have applied?

What? Literally everyone voted them out because of failing public services, we all know that was due to austerity measures. In 2012 the UK, out of 30 European countries were one of 2 G7 countries (the other being Italy) where UNICEF reported that 44 % of children where living in conditions of severe material deprivation. It is just embarrassing! You weren't living the good life under Sunak, jeez, I have family in Denmark and the comparisons in standard of living make you feel like we were gas lit for 14 years!

Well, he must be a total idiot then... called an election just before Rwanda sending back 10s of 1000s of migrants ha ha and before we started to hit 8% per year growth.....

More journalists outside Bell Hotel in Epping then "protestors" must be a burning issue.....

2012 was 20 months after a Labour government, given we’re repeatedly told not to judge Labour on their performance 14 months after a Tory Government …is 20 months the cut off when they can start to be held responsible?

Also do you have a link for this report as I can’t find anything about it online? it just sounds a bit unlikely and they probably used some lefty terminology like relative poverty. Saying that, we had just had 13 years of a labour Government.