Is anyone better off since Labour

[Luckymum20]

I am not just talking financially but feeling optimistic about the future for children, old age.

With the £22 billion debt now pasing £50 billion.

The increase in Council tax (that they said the wouldn't do). OAPs raid on pensions and no Winter fuel relief. Changes to finance regarding care homes. Utilities up. TV licence up. Food costs up...

I know minimum wage has increased but all costs have increased by a greater amount!

In 2021 minimum wage was almost 30% lower than it is now...

So I ask. Is anyone actually feeling better off, optimistic and pleased with this Government.

Also the October budget of likely to bring more stains on the 'average working man"

YABU - change will happen. It a good thing.

YANBU - not good

@Alexandra2001 no

They have given with one hand and taken a massive chunk of money with the other. Fe is reeling and the unions are outraged. Fe in particular is massively struggling and after all fe is where many DC with extra needs end up.

I'm really glad your dad got his meds but its hardly a nice solid back up of improvements under labour.

Austerity was dreadful but compounding that came all sorts of problems after.

I feel the same way.

Are they still planning strikes in Autumn?

Most schools are having to make budget cuts.

@Alexandra2001
Bank shares have tumbled today because of something else labour threatening to do

@twistyizzy yes because in schools they are still mostly having to fund these enormous pay rises but fe hasn't had pay rises nor proper funding.

Recently asked ,re strikes yes

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/unicef-uk-child-poverty-ranking-b2459151.html is that better for you? How anyone can deny austerity had no immeasurable impact is beyond me, you obviously live a very nice life.

There’s nothing in there relating to your statement below, I’ve noticed you’ve used it several times. I just wanted to check it out.

In 2012 the UK, out of 30 European countries were one of 2 G7 countries (the other being Italy) where UNICEF reported that 44 % of children where living in conditions of severe material deprivation

I mean, if you live in a gated community and your DC go to Private school then you probably have noted the closing of libraries, children's centres, swimming pools, football pitches but where I live these were important to community living and valued highly. Families like mine can afford to fund stuff that has been taken away, clubs, music lessons etc. But only just, it's terrible that it such a huge gap, who the hell celebrates this i don't know.

What does this have to do with what I wrote?

Well I provided something more relevant to your timelines i.e. that illustrates the damage done for the 14 years of austerity, this is actually a worse picture. I'm not your lacky, find it yourself, what is the point anyway, you clearly have no genuine interest.

I believe I've said on another thread, the current Labour shower are the recruiting sergeant for Reform.
As one who lived through Labour in the 60s and 70s there's little they do that surprises me!

I wanted to read the report you keep quoting, I can’t find anything about it.

Well what is the reason for your lack of care, I assume you have no contact with this world.

Ok. Great chat.

But the claim that “44 % of children where living in conditions of severe material deprivation” isn’t supported by the article you’ve quoted as far as I can see?

Worse off

In 2012 the UK, out of 30 European countries were one of 2 G7 countries (the other being Italy) where UNICEF reported that 44 % of children where living in conditions of severe material deprivation.

That seems unlikely - do you have a link? I think the 2012 report was based on 2009 data in any case - so that would be Labour's fault.

Golden bear , under Blair child poverty grew. They said they failed their target. I remember watching a harrowing program about child poverty under Blair and a young girl had to sleep on the same bare un dresses mattress her sister had died on.

I also remember a program about disabled people by Princess Diana's old friend Rosa monkton saying how people were let down and trying to appeal to brown

Right at the end of the last Blair gov ,brown threw tax credits out . This helped and significantly raised figures.
Unfortunately it coincided with the catastrophic mistake of Blair to allow Eastern European workers here
We were flooded by people from a very poor country using all the amenities at the very scarce bottom ....which coincided with the global meltdown

Unsure of numbers ,figures ,jokes about no money left ,brown calling that lady a biggot etc triggered the Tories and that's why they brought in austerity . The seed or rather eruption happened under Blair and then early on in Tories reign we were hit with food banks. That didn't happen over night that was a terrible confluence of two main events.

That got worse ,austerity and our guests made it all worse under cutting jobs banks failing hospitals failing and then we had Brexit and COVID and Ukraine

Alexandra2001
The Tories inherited national debt to gdp of around 65%

December 2009 article here says national debt was forecast to rise to 78 per cent of GDP by 2014;

The total national debt, excluding the cost of bank bailouts, will peak at almost 78 per cent of GDP by 2014, but could run much higher if the economy fails to grow as rapidly as Mr Darling says.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/public-finances-darling-s-impossible-battle-to-climb-a-mountain-of-debt-1837318.html

You need to improve your comprehension skills. I'm not going to upload a report for you.

Sorry, what?

You think I've made it up, no don't have link and not going to upload it for you.

There is an article by the FT referring to same report and explains the worsening of the situation with austerity measures..

I mean I'm aghast that the article I did link by the Independent is not shocking enough for you. In all honesty count yourself lucky if you think this is fiction and possibly look at your moral compass.

My comprehension is fine thanks. Your ability to communicate effectively however, is lacking :)

Well no apparently it isn't as if it was, you would have noted that I was referring to an article written in 2023, for the approval of the poster who didn't like my 2012 reference.