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Remove verbally abusive boyfriend out the granny flat

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Mumofadultkid · 25/08/2025 03:09

My DD lives in a type of granny flat on our land. She has done some pretty awful things and I have posted before and got some good advice and some different perspectives (which were all the same funnily enough), and now she is ramping up and her boyfriend has just sent us a message saying that if it were up to him, he wouldn't let her have her have a relationship with us. And his last paragraph was "go f* yourselves". This was in response to a request for more money towards electricity, as it has more than doubled, and we just can't afford it.

So, to quickly explain, my husband and I went into debt (released equity from our home) to enable them to buy this little house/granny flat. We have let them put it on our land, we are not charging them for that, and all we have asked is that they pay the loan back with regular payments. They promised they would do it within 2 years. Soon after they moved in, they defaulted on the first payment. It was one month after they moved in.

Then she stopped working, and then he cut his hours down. So they are roughly all up now on 1/3 of what they were on before. Through their decisions.

We are constantly told we are narcissistic, mentally and emotionally abusive, and we don't respect their boundaries and have been told in no uncertain terms that we are now formally estranged from them.

It really does feel like we have been played; it is our fault, we have never said no, and it seems like when we do, we get heaps of vitriol from her. In the past in panic, we have just given in ( I know! I know what you are going to say).

But now, after this email, we want to get him away - I feel like a prisoner in my own home. I just don't understand how you can speak to someone like this when we have done everything we can to help them. I get that she is feeding him with her narrative (he had a really troubled upbringing) and she connected with him as she told him "she had the same". And when I say no way, I mean no way. He had a really, really hard life. I am not sure DD knows what a hard life is, she has wanted for nothing.

This appears to be a pattern with her - and she has lost all her friends, she has one that she is close to at the moment, but she is using her ( I know that sounds awful) but she needs something from her and from next year - once she has got what she wants from her she will find a way to cancel her too, like she has all her other friends.

We are seeing a lawyer next week to trespass him off our home. We can't bring ourselves to do it to DD yet, but if we don't make a stand, I just don't know where this will end. He is very beligerant, we have made really reasonable requests in the past and he has just point-blank refused. And it is getting more aggressive. The emails and the messages are coming with us to the lawyers.

I suppose I am just looking for support. I know people will say blame the parents, and I get it. But believe me when I tell you - we have been so supportive, financially, emotionally, and physically and I just feel like this gentle parenting and not saying no to kids has really backfired on us. It feels like every time we say no we can't, we get verbally attacked. And I see how social media influencers are telling people to 'cut their toxic parents' out of their lives, without actually explaining what true toxicity is. There are people who have had a horrendous upbringing, and I don't discount that. This is not what my DD upbringing has been like.

It's making me ill, I have chest pains, and I am so stressed, and we are trying to plan for retirement and when we mention that, we just get "it's all about the money with you". We've tried to help them get ahead, at our expense - emotionally and financially.

If we let them stay, they will continue to at least make payments to the loan, but at what cost? If we ask him to leave, she is there on her own with no money, so no payments! I don't think she will move with him, and he will have to move back home to his lovely mum. We could sell it, but it won't cover the outstanding debt. We could ask them to get their own loan, but based on their income, I don't think they will get a loan.

I just feel so stuck and so sick.

It has been the worst decision we have ever made.

Please be kind

OP posts:
SuPollardsPolkaDotFrock · 09/09/2025 09:04

Mumofadultkid · 09/09/2025 07:12

@all

Update: they received the letter from the solicitor, and they have packed up and left. Cat and all.
They disconnected the power.
They say they have a plan to buy it off us, which is my preference, as I just don't want it on there.

I'm sad, I have cried, but I am also relieved and keep telling myself if we don't stand up to them now, it will never ever get any better, in fact, it will just get worse.

It's awful, it's come to this, but there is a long pattern of this behaviour, so we need to step up and be the FAFO parent.

You are doing absolutely the right thing. Please stay strong. They appear to be taking this seriously now which is a positive for you. None of this was if your making and sadly you can't change the person your daughter is.

SuPollardsPolkaDotFrock · 09/09/2025 09:06

By the way this thread vanished from my notifications yesterday. Was it removed?

Horses7 · 09/09/2025 09:22

Stay strong

GingerBeverage · 09/09/2025 09:43

If you don’t change the locks they’ll be back later.

2Rebecca · 09/09/2025 09:50

In your last post I am not clear what the “it” was they said they would buy off you, particularly as you said you don’t want “it” on “ there”. If they bought the house they would be permanently at the bottom of your garden so the house would be permanently there. As they were so abusive I wouldn’t want them within half a mile of you until they grow up and learn to be independent.

Robin67 · 09/09/2025 10:16

I know it's hard but you did the right thing

Mumonthebrink2025 · 09/09/2025 10:27

Well done OP! Must be so hard as it's your daughter, but hopefully things will work out for the better in the long run. Please don't let them take the granny flat until they have paid you back in full.

ClawsandEffect · 09/09/2025 10:34

2Rebecca · 09/09/2025 09:50

In your last post I am not clear what the “it” was they said they would buy off you, particularly as you said you don’t want “it” on “ there”. If they bought the house they would be permanently at the bottom of your garden so the house would be permanently there. As they were so abusive I wouldn’t want them within half a mile of you until they grow up and learn to be independent.

It's some sort of mobile structure. She's made this clear.

whowhatwerewhy · 09/09/2025 10:35

I’m glad they have gone . I’m amazed at how quick your legal advisor was able to deliver a letter.
I Would change the locks and start the sale process.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 09/09/2025 10:37

@Mumofadultkid i might have missed this but is it a cabin or something? if it can be moved, get someone to dismantle it and just pile it up or if it actually belongs to you, sell it! someone will buy it!

Francestein · 09/09/2025 10:37

Whatever you do, get some legally-binding contracts drawn up and witnessed. Don’t trust anything that either of those moochers have to say. (Also make sure you don’t agree to letting them stay on your property for any time at all.)

LytesCarey · 09/09/2025 11:33

Ocelotfeet27 · 08/09/2025 08:35

Why did the solicitor suggest keeping DD there and not him rather than going forward with evicting them both? Otherwise it was inevitable he'd be back- and he could say - oh but I was just visiting DD.

I'd get them both round and say that you will sell the house if they don't immediately start making larger payments, she needs to get a job, and he needs to respect the eviction. Once they've paid the home back they can do as they like - elsewhere.

Surely that wouldn't work. If they make payments and "own" the house, they can stay as long as they want. The only way OP will get peace of mind and a peaceful home for herself is to evict them both. They have not bought this home, so it belongs to OP and her DH, not the miserable daughter and her bf. Just get them out OP, and stop being so ridiculously soft with your DD.

Tessasanderson · 09/09/2025 12:35

There are so many things a vindictive couple can still do to cause issues here. You say they want to purchase it......that isnt going to happen when they havent got a pot to piss in.

It belongs to you......who has the paperwork? Have they left all the keys? Could they gain access easily to your land/premises?

Its a mobile home.......whats stopping them paying a contractor to come on a low loader, disconnect the services, load it onto a low loader and move it to their next site?

In situations like this, moving on is important but making sure they cant make the situation even worse is also extremely important. Get in touch with someone who knows how to sell this asap and get rid. Take your DD and her parasite boyfrineds ability to hurt you more away from them.

TwelvePercent · 09/09/2025 12:54

I've read your updates OP.
Honestly, as soon as I got to the 'i felt sorry for him & he cried' bit, my senses said 'Oh aye, I bet he did, manipulative little cretin'.

But it IS a step forward that the rose tinted specs are off - you can see him for the lying manipulator he is & how that made you feel.
I think you know your DD but obviously that's far more complex.

I hope this is the start of a calmer life for you & your DH. Finally having responsibility for her own poor choices may be the making of her.

I do think the caravan/mobile home needs to go though. While it's in situ, it will continue to be a draw for them and a weakness for you, with the potential of allowing them back 'just for a while/ while they find their feet/just for christmas' and boom... you're back at square one.

Bathingforest · 09/09/2025 17:26

How they can buy it from you when they aint got any money. And you don't want to see them regularly. What is that now

hattie43 · 09/09/2025 17:53

I’d definitely change the locks and check the services are properly off , otherwise they could leave electric heating on or a water leak resulting in huge bills

Mumofadultkid · 09/09/2025 21:38

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 09/09/2025 08:24

Brilliant update OP, totally understandable how painful it is but hold strong and hopefully DD will learn a valuable lesson.

Sometimes we have to love people from afar.

And keep posting for all the support you need OP, what you're going through is gut wrenching, no matter how ill behaved DD is.

Understandable that your emotions are all over the place.

Edited

@Treesandsheepeverywhere honestly thank you so much, this platform has been amazing and so supportive. It’s nice to hear different perspectives to sense check myself. I still feel awful but I remind myself of all the cruel things she has done and said and he has said.

I suppose my wish is that this is a big wake up call for her, but there’s part of me that knows she won’t. But I can only hope.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart

OP posts:
Mumofadultkid · 09/09/2025 21:40

Bathingforest · 09/09/2025 17:26

How they can buy it from you when they aint got any money. And you don't want to see them regularly. What is that now

@Bathingforest normally would come up with a solution, but they’ll have to figure it out - she’ll have to get a job - but they need to figure this out. It’s hard standing back but they need to work it out now.

OP posts:
Mumofadultkid · 09/09/2025 21:47

TwelvePercent · 09/09/2025 12:54

I've read your updates OP.
Honestly, as soon as I got to the 'i felt sorry for him & he cried' bit, my senses said 'Oh aye, I bet he did, manipulative little cretin'.

But it IS a step forward that the rose tinted specs are off - you can see him for the lying manipulator he is & how that made you feel.
I think you know your DD but obviously that's far more complex.

I hope this is the start of a calmer life for you & your DH. Finally having responsibility for her own poor choices may be the making of her.

I do think the caravan/mobile home needs to go though. While it's in situ, it will continue to be a draw for them and a weakness for you, with the potential of allowing them back 'just for a while/ while they find their feet/just for christmas' and boom... you're back at square one.

Edited

@TwelvePercent i agree, I want it gone. I suspect they have moved to his mums and DD will not like that. So I really need it moved off and while it’s there it just reminds me - it could’ve been a great start for them but how on earth do they think telling us to go eff ourselves and all that would pan out. They’re only sorry now we’ve put our foot down - I said to him I gave you two prods to apologise to DH for calling him a liar and an arsehole from weeks ago but you didn’t……we sat on your aggressive email for three weeks waiting for an apology …. Then as soon as solicitor involved you then say sorry ……

honestly of it weren’t for good friends and Mumsnet I would’ve folded

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whowhatwerewhy · 10/09/2025 05:14

Firstly well done for finally standing your ground . I would forget the idea of selling it to them . They don’t have the money and never will. Put it up for sale even if it’s sold below its full value, sell it as soon as you can get it moved off pay back as much of your mortgage as you can and move on with your life.

StressedGrapevine · 10/09/2025 20:21

I have followed the thread and agree with previous posters who have said to forget the idea of selling it to them. They don't have a plan, it's just bullshitting and wishful thinking.

The reality is that it's created extra debt for you and you just need to extract yourself from the entire situation at this point.

Also, as soon as you've sold it, you might find the boyfriend disappears from the scene entirely.

Mumofadultkid · 10/09/2025 22:37

PyongyangKipperbang · 08/09/2025 03:40

I am sorry to say this but it sounds like the person who needed to be evicted was your DD, not him.

For some reason, and I wouldnt like to say what it is, you have a very manipulative selfish user on your hands there. What you choose to do about that is up to you, but I would strongly suggest a therapist could help you and your husband decide.

@PyongyangKipperbang She has gone too, and I know deep down inside its true, we've tried in the past. I honestly know it's our fault we have spoiled her and given her all the things we didn't have - I'm so heartbroken, I wanted so much better for us.

OP posts:
Mumofadultkid · 10/09/2025 22:42

2Rebecca · 09/09/2025 09:50

In your last post I am not clear what the “it” was they said they would buy off you, particularly as you said you don’t want “it” on “ there”. If they bought the house they would be permanently at the bottom of your garden so the house would be permanently there. As they were so abusive I wouldn’t want them within half a mile of you until they grow up and learn to be independent.

@2Rebecca its a transportable tiny house on skids so can be moved, once and if they pay for it they can move it. I suppose at the moment I am feeling raw and hoping for a wake up from them, but I know its not going to happen. Im heartbroken (I know) and if I had stood up to her years ago maybe this wouldn't have happened and maybe we shouldnt have stumped up the money for the loan too.

OP posts:
Mumofadultkid · 10/09/2025 22:44

@all

I'm re-reading all your posts, honestly, it's helping, I am having a huge wobble as i usually do, I'm heartbroken and can't stop crying (not gunning for sympathy) but I feel its a huge mess. Reading your posts is really helping me - who would have thought a whole bunch of strangers could help - thank you so much - I can't tell you how much I appreciate your comments, your words and your support.

OP posts:
Mumonthebrink2025 · 10/09/2025 22:57

Mumofadultkid · 10/09/2025 22:44

@all

I'm re-reading all your posts, honestly, it's helping, I am having a huge wobble as i usually do, I'm heartbroken and can't stop crying (not gunning for sympathy) but I feel its a huge mess. Reading your posts is really helping me - who would have thought a whole bunch of strangers could help - thank you so much - I can't tell you how much I appreciate your comments, your words and your support.

It will get better OP, honestly sometimes all it takes is a change in attitude from you, for things to shift in the right direction. Just stand strong and have hope :)

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