Husband has extreme right wing views

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Not sure if this is the right place to post as it's not an AIBU but more of I think my husband is being and I'm not sure what to do about it.

He's getting caught up in some quite extreme right wing views in regards to migrants. Complains about how they're coming in, being housed in hotels, paid allowances etc. with no checks and how crime rates such as rape are now ten fold etc. He thinks Trump is great 😪 He's very intelligent so I'm not sure how he's managed to get caught up in this extremist view point.

WWYD?

It's one thing to have differing viewpoints. It's quite another to be extreme right wing.

I find it bizarre that all these men suddenly want to protect women and girls, when there are white British men harming and raping women in this country long a daily basis.

Seems its okay for white men to harm women, but woe betide any brown man that does it.

What exactly are these “core ideologies of extreme right wing” to which you refer?

But she isn’t clued up on politics, so she doesn’t know. I don’t think she has any better ideas, she just doesn’t like his, and doesn’t know enough to be able to argue against them, but it’s impossible to argue without knowledge.

Most of what people say is ‘extreme right’ now is nothing of the sort. Looking back at past Labour policies, a lot of them would now come under that umbrella.

I can’t believe how people are so quick to tell people to leave their husbands on here, it’s almost ridiculous

The OPs husband probably thinks what 70% of men secretly think , but many are scared to say it publicly for fear of repercussions.

Apart from anything, someone leaving their partner could leave them homeless , their children homeless , their income gone.

But in Mumsnet world it’s easy to leave someone and lose everything because someone has a different view to them.

Not as bizarre as your comment.

Yes but even then you must understand that the receiving countries ABSOLUTELY WILL raise concerns about your 23 and 26 year old sons x 1000s arriving en masse to their country and being paid from from their taxes. The impact on their kids, communities and infrastructure. You surely wouldn't expect them not to mention it!!

The world is far from perfect and there is no perfect answer but calling people names for pointing it out and encouraging people to break up families is even more extremist behaviour!

Exactly. The 'save our women and girls' rationale pedalled by these idiots is wafer thin.

I'd leave my husband if he held those views as I'd see a very fundamental difference in our outlooks and morals as being a gulf too far and frankly I'd have no respect for him and wouldn't find him in any way attractive.

It’s a problem no matter who does it, white or otherwise. But some groups offend at vastly higher rates - we know this, it’s not up for debate, it’s the truth.

How is this impacting you negatively?

I see your point. It's more that es all for the protests and things nothing will change otherwise. I think it's more grey than he's considering. Lots of what he says is true but feel like not considering the people that genuinely need asylum and are good people looking for a sane home.

Are they extreme? Many people feel like this. He’s not violent or out on the streets protesting and nor are the majority. Isn’t he allowed his own views?

Indeed. But as no extreme right wing views have been expressed there’s no issue is there.

There’s a very good article in The Times today by Matthew Syed entitled:

“Common sense voters see the abject folly of the West’s purity spiral”

If you can get hold of a copy of the Times it might be worth a read.

Admiring Trump would be very difficult for me to cope with - he's a grifter, making as much money as he possibly can from the Presidency, and a rabble rouser, he should be in prison for starting the Capitol attacks, he's enabling the starvation of Gaza, the ongoing bombing of Ukraine and he's deeply misogynistic, and has sexually assaulted a string of women.

Americans can hold their nose and vote for him to stop abortion, to keep their taxes low or to shut the border, but how can a British man find anything to admire in him, that can in any way balance out the huge list of negatives?

I couldn't spend any time without someone who defends Trump.

The migrants are rapists trope is so insulting to victims of sexual assault - the majority of rapes are carried out by men who are known to the victims, just like child abuse.

The asylum system is creaking, and there are a lot of economic migrants, but the system needs to change, terrorising those who have spent a lot of money to come to the UK isn't going to stop people coming, they risk small boats, they'll risk protestors.

Fast processing, a high bar for granting, and quick deportations will make the UK less attractive, flags painted on roundabouts won't.

Concern about ahistorical levels of migration to this struggling country is pretty centrist at this stage, they're having nice discussions on R4 about it. Save your inflated language for people who genuinely are 'extreme right wing'

Define it then

I don’t know loads about politics but what I have heard anecdotally sat around a table is someone say ‘I vote conservative but I am very willing to hear your arguments against it’ but never ever heard that from the left.

@arethereanyleftatall Exactly, their perceived war must be serious enough to leave all the women and children behind! And not forgetting how many safe European countries they have travelled through to reach the UK…the smell of milk and honey must be strong indeed!

I will forever resent being referred to as part of the “save our women.”

I am not their woman. I’m my partner’s woman, at an absolute push, and even that is up for some firm debate.

These are not extreme right wing views. I agree with him.

Does he spend a lot of time on social media op?

I have seen a fair bit of right wing propaganda on FB recently and have been musing how it must feed into people's resentment and fear. The more you watch the more it shows you. And some people don't question what they are shown, they just accept it as fact. For example a huge parade of Muslims through London with prayer flags with the "they're taking over" message over it. It was actually a video from several years ago celebrating a religious day. Or an Edinburgh beach full of Nigerians again with the message they're taking over, when it was a special cultural event taking place not an everyday sight. 🤦

Some people will see these things on social media and it will feed their views, making them more and more right wing. It's quite worrying broadly for society, it must be even more worrying if a close relative or spouse is caught up in it.