Husband has extreme right wing views

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Not sure if this is the right place to post as it's not an AIBU but more of I think my husband is being and I'm not sure what to do about it.

He's getting caught up in some quite extreme right wing views in regards to migrants. Complains about how they're coming in, being housed in hotels, paid allowances etc. with no checks and how crime rates such as rape are now ten fold etc. He thinks Trump is great 😪 He's very intelligent so I'm not sure how he's managed to get caught up in this extremist view point.

WWYD?

I would send all the migrants back because if they were really seeking asylum they should claim it in the first safe country and that is not the UK.
Most are young, fit male economic migrants

I think it’s more reasonable to set up an asylum system that works, and that identifies those who may actually present a risk, and blocks them.

Case by case. Not country by country. Otherwise you’re also blocking people who are looking to flee that danger, not bring it with them.

Islam is a religion so I’m not sure why you say it’s racist. There are white Muslims as well and brown or black Christians. Trying to shut down discussion by claiming it is racist is part of the problem.

It is the governments responsibility to set entry criteria such to mitigate possible risks and try and ensure our safety.

Muslim extremists have a sworn aim to destroy us. Some former Muslims are trying to raise awareness to warn us of the issue and that our democracy is being weaponised against us.

A cautious approach with everyone looking to enter our country would be sensible as unfortunately the extremists looking to kill us and the criminals looking to kill us don’t always announce themselves.

That’s why the government are being asked to produce the crime stats 🤷‍♀️

So your response would be to prevent Muslim asylum, for all, because someone told you they’re trying to kill us?

I should have a word with my colleague. 5 years I’ve worked with him, still not death happened. I actually employ upwards of 30 people, all from Iran, Pakistan or Afghanistan. Still no death. I don’t know what they’re playing at.

Not unless they’re going to release similar for our own men committing acts of violence, and how the two compare.

Obviously if the crime stats for foreign men are published, we will be able to see how many are committed by British citizens. The ONS publish crime data quarterly. I’m not sure why you say this like some kind of challenge?

It’s lovely that you would only deport criminals

At present ‘human rights’ lawyers are making it very difficult to even deport the criminals by misusing human rights law to prioritise the ‘right to a family life’ of a convicted criminal over the right of a murdered or raped girl for justice. We need to live away from the presumption that we have to support these heinous men at all costs.

The people outside Bell Hotel last night weren’t shouting “send the criminals back” were they. They meant all asylum seekers. Empty the hotel, send them all back.

That wouldn’t have been a very catchy chant for a protest. While I don’t agree with crowds intimidating the immigrants and rioting, I’m afraid this is where we get to when people’s voices are being ignored by the government, and others are constantly yelling ‘racist’ but we want to discus our concerns at seeing hordes of undocumented men (no women or children presumably left to fend for themselves in counties where women are not allowed to earn money or walk outside on their own - I’m not sure how that will be working out) arriving on our shores looking fit and healthy and being placed in insecure accommodation like hotels from where a number of horrible crimes have already been committed.

People trying to silence the conversation by ridiculous accusations of ‘right wing’ and ‘racist’ are part of the problem.

I suggest you read my post again and look at what I actually said because it’s not that.

I have seen actual videos made in this country by the extremists that seek to harm us. 75% of MI5s caseload is Muslim extremists. Millions have been spent on physical barriers to prevent terror attacks on events like Christmas markets (an attractive target symbolic of Christianity). At no point did I say ALL Muslims or ALL anyone else.

I think it’s disgusting that you mock and minimise this topic - have you forgotten that numerous real lives were lost in recent years from terror attacks? The Ariana Grande concert maybe?

I am advocating caution with all seeking to enter our country, action to mitigate risks and above all, our government actually getting off their arses to do their job because our current situation is unacceptable.

It’s all about not tarring everyone with the same brush…

not all Muslims are terrorists. Of course that this true! But equally there are many people who have come from other countries that have sought to harm individuals or large groups of people. Macnhester bombings, 7/7 bombings.

so just because you work with a number of hard working immigrants who just want to come and work and support their families does not mean they all pose no threat. And these threats have to be mitigated

After the past 30 years and looking at the state of some areas of the country, I don't trust the Home Office with that level of autonomy. I want robust legislation that removes decision making from civil servants and removes the power from lawyers and judges that allows them to work against the interests of the British people who are paying for it all.

Case by case is not feasible in a situation where half the world has reasonable ground to claim asylum and can get here for a few grand. Why do you think we have such a backlog? Because we carefully consider every single person's unique circumstances and how they're on a special type of HIV drug that they can't get in Zimbabwe and seven years ago they were in a gang which increases their risk if they go back but was it high-profile enough to be considered oh and also they had a daughter here but she now lives in the Netherlands and... [three appeals later]

Put it this way. A 20yo man runs into your house from the direction of the nearby sink estate and begs you to shelter him because a gang is after him.

Do you let him in? You've got young children in the house. But the poor thing looks terrified.

Two more arrive the next day and you tell your youngest you're kicking her out of her bedroom to make room. After all you let the first guy in, there's a precedent, and it's only decent.

The three guys start shooting at each other through the bedroom walls. Or maybe it's only one of them and the other two are ducking? You're not quite sure. You don't open the door to check.

Your husband asks wtf is going on and demands to call the police to kick them out.

Mumsnet tells you to LTB...

Interesting you mention the Ariana Grande attacks.

Salman Abedi was born in Manchester. Where would we have sent him back to?

The London bombings, all but one of the perpetrators born here. The other, Jamaican. Were we sending Hasib Hussain back to Leeds?

@Sussexswain I see you’ve referred to both of those attacks too.

I mean. Just read the information before you post. We didn’t welcome any of those terrorists, they were born here. British citizens.

So who would you like to be in charge of immigration if not the HO, us?

That’s what we have a government for, whether you like it or not.

I won’t want to trust Reform with the country if/when they get in, but I’ll have to, because that’s how voting and democracy works.

"Second generation children of immigrants are also terrorists" is not quite the argument I think you want to make.

This is reason to be even more careful about who we invite in the first place, not less. Because the consequences last for multiple generations. How long ago was the Plantation of Ulster, remind me...?

Is your reading okay? That’s not the first time you’ve just said something that I didn’t say.

I wasn’t claiming they were “too.” I was saying that they didn’t arrive on a boat to be sent back on. Which PP were had said they were.

@Sussexswain ‘there are many people who have come from other countries that have sought to harm individuals or large groups of people. Macnhester bombings, 7/7 bombings..”

Well that’s just not true. They didn’t come from other countries. Which 2 seconds of Googling would tell you without the need to lie.

Out of interest, how far back would you like to go - my finance manager is 3rd generation Pakistani… does he have to go? I can’t be arsed doing his job, so that would be mega inconvenient.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/25/lawangeen-abdulrahimzai-jailed-life-murder-thomas-roberts

www.itv.com/news/central/2025-07-24/asylum-seeker-who-raped-12-year-old-after-offering-crisps-could-be-deported

You're quite right, they were born here. I refer back to my earlier point about integration. We should not be allowing people to come to this country and raise their children to hate us so much that they're prepared to kill themselves in order to kill as many of us as possible. The other Abedi brother will now live out the rest of his life at the expense of the tax payer and fills his days conspiring to maim prison staff. Glad we granted asylum to his mother, some fucking gratitude.

No comment on the lies about the Manchester attack or 7/7 bombings being conducted by immigrants then.

Okay.

So transparent 😂😂

You are correct. They were born hereafter. I stand corrected.

however there are plenty of examples. I have never said all asylum seekers are a danger but some of them are. Will you admit that some of them are?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/19/asylum-seeker-blames-rape-girl-on-cultural-differences/

Yes. Because at no state have I said that all asylum seekers are either legitimate or non criminal.

I have said that those who are legitimate or non criminal, shouldn’t be punished because others aren’t.

But what you have said is ‘my boss is from Pakistan and hasn’t murdered me’ implying because you know immigrants, there is no risk and anyone who has a concern is racist.

The people who have been murdered or raped also didn’t deserve what happened to them. What would your message be to their families?

and before there is any argument about people here who are rapiats and murders. Of course there are and they are despicable but they are unfortunately our deplorables to deal with. Those from another country should not be our problem and large scale, unchecked immigration is making that an impossible task to deal with.

Firstly, he’s not my boss.

Secondly, he’s not an immigrant, and I didn’t say he was. He’s 3rd generation, his daughter is 4th. Never migrated anywhere.

So if we’re considering that it “lasts generations” as someone said… what generation are we stopping deporting people at.

Umm I haven’t said anything about deporting anyone! But if you are second generation you are a British citizen. I don’t think anyone is calling for the deportation of British citizens who were born here.

I am first generation immigrant. I do not hold British citizenship. I abide by the law and pay my taxes, and if i ever broke the law and was a risk to British values I would absolutely respect any decision to ask me to leave.

I said what i think about it in the post that you've replied to here. I want strong, robust and clear legislation that isn't open to interpretation or exploitation of loopholes. I want the grifting lawyers to have no scraps to feed on and I want the judges to have no opportunity to betray the British people. In brief, as little of your suggested case-by-case approach as is humanly possible hence the need for blanket bans on certain countries (or at least regions of countries) and probably blanket bans on other criteria too. The Home Office has proven itself incapable of administrating this competently so its autonomy should be vastly reduced. That's what I think.