Husband has extreme right wing views

[HelpMeUnderstandPolitics]

Not sure if this is the right place to post as it's not an AIBU but more of I think my husband is being and I'm not sure what to do about it.

He's getting caught up in some quite extreme right wing views in regards to migrants. Complains about how they're coming in, being housed in hotels, paid allowances etc. with no checks and how crime rates such as rape are now ten fold etc. He thinks Trump is great 😪 He's very intelligent so I'm not sure how he's managed to get caught up in this extremist view point.

WWYD?

Your best bet is to edit this and replace it with a full stop or something. Its a really poor post.

So you can’t provide your source? That’s fine, you could just say.

Also that is from 2023. We know a lot more about crimes by a specific type of ‘Asian’ men now than we did then.

Whose facts?

And we also know that records pertaining to certain ethnicities were redacted, edited, suppressed and covered up. We know that for a fact. The data and statistics that we do have are very difficult for leftists to deal with and we know that the reality is actually much worse than the data suggests.

Buy a megaphone and follow him around with it, fact-checking every bit of GB News style bollox that comes out of his mouth.

Record. Put on Youtube. Make enough money to pay for the divorce.

Yes unfortunately we still have a lot to uncover and the government are still prevaricating as I’m sure they have an idea of how bad this really is.
I was horrified at the huge numbers of girls explicitly targeted because they were white and the (alleged) complicity of the police and others in authority. True evil. It is allegedly still happening today.

It is. There are plenty of studies available online that show this trend.

A lot of it is driven not only by tax but also assets. As soon as people have something to lose they tend to move to the right. Prior to that they are supportive of others paying more as they know it won’t be them paying as they have little to take.

The fall in home ownership might impact the trend as the biggest shift to the right occurs when people become home owners.

Some more stats from Europe for those interested. Similar picture in Spain, Italy and Finland.

They may still grow up HEARING his views, but the fact that their parents split up over extreme political differences is indicative that decent people don't have to accept and pander to fascist bullshit. That's a good life lesson.

@CandidLurker that’s an excellent article and very pertinent to this thread.
for reference: www.thetimes.com/comment/columnists/article/commonsense-voters-see-the-abject-folly-of-the-wests-purity-spiral-wc9jf7dmh

They'll learn that mummy was indoctrinated into a cult and broke up their family, inflicting permanent damage on them because of it. That's what they'll learn. Dad's views are aligned with the majority and not at all extreme.

So these extremist views he holds are the ones... shared by most of the country?

Sounds more like you could do with a bit of learning. It doesn't sound like you have a scooby.

If the majority think that Trump is great, then there's not much hope for the human race, is there?

I'm in the US so maybe it's different but if my husband supported Trump and his administration, I would leave him.

maybe he’s not extremist, nor right wing, maybe politics has moved on and he’s right and you’re wrong

This is my concern. I see and know so many counter arguments that the vast majority of assaults are from British white males known to the victim, which is an uncomfortable fact. However, this is a baselined fact that should be dealt with, with or without consideration of migration issues.

The argument of effectively "adding fuel to the already burning fire" because we already have a assault on women just baffles me. We need to decrease that level of assault, surely, not increase the risk of it, especially from known resources.

I do think it is only one part of the immigration debate but let's not keep reducing these arguments to "but there has always been assaults on women and most of them are not from immigrating communities".

This is true but those communities (not all and every one) do increase that baseline risk. That is also an uncomfortable fact.

It is also about so many more things that have been touched on such as capacity, infrastructure, government policy to process, integrate or report, cultural impact etc. which PP are debating.

But let's not keep racing to the bottom of the barrel when it comes to assault on women.

If opposing Trump means you've been indoctrinated into a cult, then I guess I'm in a cult.

I'd like to think that rather than blaming me for breaking up the family, my daughter would actually be proud that I stood up to her father who supported a mysoginistic sex offender, and my son would be proud because he's being raised to respect women.

If the majority truly do support Trump, then the world is more fucked than I thought.

Aren’t the England flags for the women’s rugby? 🤷🏻‍♀️

we share the same husband!.... well my husband's views are like your hubby's, very difficult to have convos isn't it?

Ok

@HelpMeUnderstandPolitics has admitted that the use of the word "extreme" was incorrect

You don’t think linking a “tenfold” increase in rape in the UK with asylum seekers is a far right view point? It’s a bullshit statistic and just a way to demonise asylum seekers.

You don’t think supporting a right wing felon who has openly admitted sexually assaulting women is something to worry about? Especially when he’s the leader of another country and has nothing to do with the UK - why would someone in the UK support him??

He's very intelligent

He really isn't - he's repeating nonsense from social media without applying any critical thinking of his own.

There's a huge amount of support available for homeless people - both government funded and through various charities.

It's not always possible to get them to engage with it though, or for the right help to be available for the right person at the right time.

It's not just a case of putting people in a flat or room and leaving them to it. Most of these people don't trust anyone they think is authority, most of them have severe, complicated issues with mental health, anger and/or substance abuse. They won't start or continue with the rehab programs that are necessary to access housing.

Many don't like shelters and hostels because they don't feel safe there. Most of the people that do get longer term housing end up back on the streets either because they fall back into substance abuse or they simply can't adjust.

Knowing all that, would your partner prefer his money was spent fighting that losing battle, or on housing an immigrant family who are here legally, working and paying tax?