Husband has extreme right wing views

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Not sure if this is the right place to post as it's not an AIBU but more of I think my husband is being and I'm not sure what to do about it.

He's getting caught up in some quite extreme right wing views in regards to migrants. Complains about how they're coming in, being housed in hotels, paid allowances etc. with no checks and how crime rates such as rape are now ten fold etc. He thinks Trump is great 😪 He's very intelligent so I'm not sure how he's managed to get caught up in this extremist view point.

WWYD?

Maybe he's just informed on the statistics and has come to the obvious conclusion, breaking through the obvious nonsense we've been fed for decades? His views are not extreme, they are widely held in most of the world. He isn't advocating mass murder of anyone that looks different, he just thinks importing rapists and having to pay for the privilege is a bad idea. It is.

Yes indeed so. But surely even if everyone one was fleeing war , there comes a point when the UK can only take in so much.

Also if my country was in a war, I’d never leave my children or partner behind..no matter what.

Well, I can definitely see some parallels between what some US so-called Christian nationalists advocate and the Taliban regime. There is an overlap on many issues, they just pray differently.
Any fundamentalism is abhorrent because it always leads to destruction.

Yes, I do and the way the Cypriot authorities treated her was sickening.

At least many Cypriot and Israeli feminists protested in her defence.

IMO the problem is less that men are exposed to a huge amount of completely factually incorrect information. It's that it's sometimes not in context, or it's a shocking example that's not really representative, or honestly most commonly just that they spend too high a percentage of their free time scrolling through comments about it rather than, say, going to push their child on the swings.

It's fine if you are curious about the source and check it together, and are open to changing your own mind - likely to be counter-productive if you treat it as a debate or school and he ends up spending even more time online looking for counter-arguments. (Based on experience - of being on both sides of this at different points.)

Yes men known to the victims relatives and partners

Most women in our country who come to harm/killed are killed by men they know, usually a partner and many of them are British.

I'd be more concerned about that personally.

It would give me the massive ick. Plus I wouldn't want my children being exposed to those type of views. Is happily throw a marriage away for those reasons.

I get that and that's what by and large Ukrainians have done (stayed and fought) but there is one difference: there was a quick legal route for Ukrainian women and children to come to the UK (and other places) safely. A lot of other cases are basically people fleeing corrupt tyrannies, so a mix of political, social and economic factors, not always a raging war. Asylum is already very limited so human traffickers take advantage of that. Those crossings are incredibly dangerous which is why the males get sent out first in the hope that a legal route will be found for their families. I'm not saying we should welcome everyone, just that there's a reason why the boats are full of blokes.

What he's saying isn't wrong..

People saying LTB are ridiculous 🤣

I don’t get the argument that because British men can be rapists, we don’t have to worry about other rapists? I’d kick all the British ones out of the country too if that was an opinion?

“We already have murderous men in this country so let’s bring in some more men from countries where women are treated worse than the animals” isn’t the great idea you might think

What about the foreign rapists those actual defence is that they didn’t realise rape was illegal? Do we have to accept them as well? How many girls will be raped before we wise up?

"My husband has looked around the place, seen the absolute fucking state of things, and is now sayings things which are irrefutably correct"

LTB 😭😭😭

Yeah, that's what they all say. I guess that would be why such a high percentage of those out rioting about immigration last summer had convictions for domestic violence.

I’m 56 and I pay a shitload of taxes. In my twenties I was a member of the Lib Dems. I’m now a member of the Green Party. I think I’m probably a bit more left wing than I was back then.

That’s like saying we all need to be weary of old white men since statistically they make up the majority of the paedos.

Recorded Child Sexual Abuse Offenders (where ethnicity known, 2023 data)

• White: ~90% of CSAE offenders
• Asian: ~5%
• Black: ~2%
• Mixed/Other: ~3%

and they are overrepresented relative to their population share. Asian and Black offenders are underrepresented.

Yep, and me!

Thank you for the heads up. A great opinion piece. I hope people will listen because the hyper-liberal luxury belief cultists are inviting widescale mayhem.

"Where ethnicity known" is doing a lot of heavy lifting right here

Crossing the channel is not dangerous in good weather. That’s why we’ve been so busy recently. The RNLI provide an escort in many cases. France is a safe country but we apparently provide a more tempting offer.

People swim the channel for sport.

Rewarding the channel crossings with hotel rooms, private medical care and accelerated asylum processing just enables the people traffickers.

That’s all you can pull from that data 😅

He's either racist or stupid or both

Probably because Asian girls are told not to discuss these things because of the shame they would bring to the family.

If these crossings are incredibly dangerous, even for the men, why don't they claim asylum in France? Why are they hell bent on coming to the UK?

A lot of girls are raped every day by British men and nothing is done about it. Where are the men painting flags on roundabouts or rioting over that?

I just find it hypocritical when so many British men rape girls and get away with it yet the concern is all about immigrants. Not to mention it is usually the same men who support Trump and think he's so great so they clearly don't respect girls/women at all. It's simply a convenient excuse.