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For thinking that the migrant protests ...

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Ihateboris · 23/08/2025 12:35

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

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Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 21:11

my understanding is it not illegal to enter a country and declare asylum.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 23/08/2025 21:12

Yanbu. The anger shouldn't be used to terrify people, what can they do?

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 21:12

BIossomtoes · 23/08/2025 21:10

More than two thirds with a record of domestic abuse? Purportedly concerned about women and children’s safety. Scepticism doesn’t seem unreasonable.

More than two thirds who were arrested

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 21:13

LlttledrummergirI · 23/08/2025 21:07

I think the relatively few loud racists feel that this is important.

The silent majority in my opinion are ok with controlled migration and genuine refugees.

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Unfortunately, the volume of immigration means the illegal immigrant doesn’t have to care what the host population thinks.

The modern world is such that they can live entirely within their own culture with very little contact with the wider nation. They can live in an ethnic enclave within a large city, with those who speak their language, no need to learn English, pick up work wherever, assisted by their community, watch tv and movies in their own language - what does it matter to them that their behaviour is frowned upon by a host population they dislike and avoid?

xanthomelana · 23/08/2025 21:19

TheLizardQueen · 23/08/2025 19:06

How many of you have a hotel full of 18-35 year old illegal immigrant males housed within a mile from you? Where they wander the streets and children’s play parks in groups. There are no women and children in these hotels. Different story if there was. Where are all the women and children 🤔

How many people on this thread would take in one of the 18-35 year old illegal immigrant males? I’m going to take a wild guess and say none in real life. Anyone can do the virtue signalling on an anonymous forum but actions speak louder than words, if you all feel so strongly then get them out of these terrible hotels and show them some good British hospitality.

PandoraSocks · 23/08/2025 21:22

xanthomelana · 23/08/2025 21:19

How many people on this thread would take in one of the 18-35 year old illegal immigrant males? I’m going to take a wild guess and say none in real life. Anyone can do the virtue signalling on an anonymous forum but actions speak louder than words, if you all feel so strongly then get them out of these terrible hotels and show them some good British hospitality.

That is a very original take, I must say.

AliceMaforethought · 23/08/2025 21:22

Swiftie1878 · 23/08/2025 13:41

A ‘certain type of person’?
OK.

I don’t agree with the protests outside these hotels, but refuse to vilify people who are often genuinely frightened for themselves, their children and their communities.
Having several hundred men turn up in your town, mostly from cultures that don’t view women in the way we do in the West, and who have nothing to do but loiter around town in groups together must be very disconcerting.

Having empathy for the immigrants is of course desirable, but some empathy for those living with the fall-out from the governmental failures in handling them should also be considered.

'Don't view women the way we do in the West'. Don't be wilfully obtuse and naive. How do you think most of these protesters view women!? Please engage the brain and don't just parrot GB 'News' talking points.

LeBonBon · 23/08/2025 21:23

I wonder if we did a cross section of those protesting against migrants with who voted for Brexit? A full moon perhaps? I'm sick of hearing about it all on the news and seeing people who willingly voted for this crap and Nigel Farage complaining all the time. We all remember Nigel's poster. Well it's come true, thanks Nige. They've made their bed, etc..

Bambamhoohoo · 23/08/2025 21:24

xanthomelana · 23/08/2025 21:19

How many people on this thread would take in one of the 18-35 year old illegal immigrant males? I’m going to take a wild guess and say none in real life. Anyone can do the virtue signalling on an anonymous forum but actions speak louder than words, if you all feel so strongly then get them out of these terrible hotels and show them some good British hospitality.

BINGO!

so you won’t be surprised to hear I don’t want children to be abused- I am not in favour of little children being beaten, burnt, thrown around, raped, pimped out, neglected drugged and infested.

I won’t allow an abused child to live with me either.

That is a normal reaction.

suggesting they should live with me to prove I care about them is hilariously stupid

roseyposey · 23/08/2025 21:27

..are shameful.

Hollyohara · 23/08/2025 21:27

Human Rights Council Hears that the Severity of Violations against Women and Girls in Afghanistan Might Amount to Crimes against Humanity

https://www.ohchr.org/en/meeting-summaries/2024/06/human-rights-council-hears-severity-violations-against-women-and-girls

Some men from Afghanistan who cross borders into the UK will automatically respect our women and girls will they?

Hollyohara · 23/08/2025 21:30

Some men from Pakistan who cross borders into the UK will automatically respect our women and girls will they? Like they do in Rochdale?

Thirty-two per cent of women (48/150) randomly selected from health facilities in Karachi, Pakistan have experienced physical violence, and between 70% and 90% of married women have experienced abuse from their spouses at any time in their lives according to a survey on 1000 women in Punjab, Pakistan.4 Violence by spouses and other male relatives against women is the most widespread form of violence in Pakistan.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9243683/

Gender-based violence in Pakistan and public health measures: a call to action - PMC

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9243683/

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 21:33

PandoraSocks · 23/08/2025 21:22

That is a very original take, I must say.

I’m more than willing to help out with calling people racist on MN for a couple of days, if you need a bit of time off to get the guest room ready etc.

Hollyohara · 23/08/2025 21:33

Some men from Iran who cross borders into the UK will automatically respect our women and girls will they?

In Iran’s 2022–2023 “Woman, Life, Freedom” uprising, women’s bodies quite literally became battlefields.
The protest movement erupted after the death in custody of 22-year-old Mahsa (Jina) Amini, who was arrested by Iran’s morality police for improperly wearing a hijab. _

Her death became a powerful symbol of the government’s patriarchal control over women’s bodies, and ignited protests that exposed the regime’s use of sexual violence as a weapon of repression.

Testimonies from survivors, shared despite stigma and fear, revealed harrowing abuses: women protesters were beaten, sexually assaulted, raped (including gang rape and rape with objects), stripped naked and tortured during their arrests, transfers and detention in both official and unofficial sites, and throughout interrogations.

https://theconversation.com/how-irans-government-has-weaponized-sexual-violence-against-women-who-dare-to-resist-253791

Iranian protesters are making demands in charters and bills of rights

Following a brutal government crackdown, Iranian protesters are organizing strikes, sit-ins, boycotts and publicizing their demands in the form of manifestos, charters and bills of rights.

https://theconversation.com/iranian-protesters-are-making-demands-in-charters-and-bills-of-rights-201543

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 21:35

Hollyohara · 23/08/2025 21:27

Human Rights Council Hears that the Severity of Violations against Women and Girls in Afghanistan Might Amount to Crimes against Humanity

https://www.ohchr.org/en/meeting-summaries/2024/06/human-rights-council-hears-severity-violations-against-women-and-girls

Some men from Afghanistan who cross borders into the UK will automatically respect our women and girls will they?

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You would send them back to where they could be tortured and killed?

You want to prevent them from bringing their daughters, wives, mothers, sister to safety?

LlttledrummergirI · 23/08/2025 21:38

xanthomelana · 23/08/2025 21:19

How many people on this thread would take in one of the 18-35 year old illegal immigrant males? I’m going to take a wild guess and say none in real life. Anyone can do the virtue signalling on an anonymous forum but actions speak louder than words, if you all feel so strongly then get them out of these terrible hotels and show them some good British hospitality.

Again for those in the back of the room.

Illegal migrants do not get put up in hotels.

Refugees do.

It's a pretty simple fact which unfortunately our media (owned by rich people who don't want to have the tax returns questioned),particularly GB news with an agenda, are happy to ignore.

Whatever works when whipping up hate.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 21:39

LlttledrummergirI · 23/08/2025 21:38

Again for those in the back of the room.

Illegal migrants do not get put up in hotels.

Refugees do.

It's a pretty simple fact which unfortunately our media (owned by rich people who don't want to have the tax returns questioned),particularly GB news with an agenda, are happy to ignore.

Whatever works when whipping up hate.

Where do illegal migrants get put up?

SpottyCheeseEater · 23/08/2025 21:40

PandoraSocks · 23/08/2025 16:46

A concerned parent protesting today in Leeds.

This is a stupid post isn't it. There are many decent concerned parents protesting yet you chose ONE bad example to make your point. I'm thinking about joining the protest. Master degree in enginering, high rate tax payer, no criminal history. Just a normal mom to be. I've been sexually harassed in the past, yes, by a couple of middle eastern men. I was reported before for telling this truth on MN basically being marked as a liar by some women here. I thought you're supposed to believe women? Unless you're a lefty with an agenda I suppose.

Regardless, I feel very strongly about safety for women. I don't want what happened to me which scarred me for years happens to someone else. Not a single woman.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 21:40

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 21:35

You would send them back to where they could be tortured and killed?

You want to prevent them from bringing their daughters, wives, mothers, sister to safety?

France is really not that bad.

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 21:40

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 21:39

Where do illegal migrants get put up?

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Not hotels housing asylume seekers

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 21:41

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 21:40

France is really not that bad.

And they take in more asylum seekers per capita than the UK

Afghanistan is bad

TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 21:42

LlttledrummergirI · 23/08/2025 21:38

Again for those in the back of the room.

Illegal migrants do not get put up in hotels.

Refugees do.

It's a pretty simple fact which unfortunately our media (owned by rich people who don't want to have the tax returns questioned),particularly GB news with an agenda, are happy to ignore.

Whatever works when whipping up hate.

Starmer calls them illegal. Perhaps you should educate him instead.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 21:42

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 21:40

Not hotels housing asylume seekers

Where then?

PandoraSocks · 23/08/2025 21:42

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 21:33

I’m more than willing to help out with calling people racist on MN for a couple of days, if you need a bit of time off to get the guest room ready etc.

Edited

I haven't called anyone on MN racist. MN would delete any such posts.

But many of the protesters are racist. I stand by that.

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