For thinking that the migrant protests ...

[Ihateboris]

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

Are you seriously advocating for arming immigrants now? Let me guess, to fight the capitalists?

The reasonable assumption is that we would be doing worse economically without immigrants, because on the whole they are net economic assets. The Office of National Statistics says immigrants make a total contribution of about £83B annually to the UK economy.

Just as there is a formula for what Brexit has cost us, and it isn’t pretty…. The cost has been around £140B so far over 5 years. Our policies have favoured greed (dividends) over investment and growth through a long, long Tory government that saw 15 years of low growth. Now Labour is off to a shaky start.

No wonder people are fed up. Just because immigrants and genuine asylum seekers are an easy target doesn’t mean they are the right one.

Christ almighty. How did you arrive at that conclusion.

Where did I suggest that?

I expect she knows it’s toeing the line.

Well quite. Disagree with @Livelovebehappy about some things but of course the majority view must take precedence!
I don’t like what Reform represents at all but if the majority voted for it at the next election, I’d have to lump it. Thats the UK system.

Are you not implying immigrants need to arm themselves to be safe? The enemy is usually Tories, white people, capitalists under your ideology is it not?

How?

That’s a lie. Immigration is lowering our GDP per capita.

Yes, it’s curious.

I’m the gullible one?
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The immigrant haters association has been active in fighting homelessness since its inception.

Look at Figure 2. Then apologise for the accusation of lying.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-fiscal-impact-of-immigration-in-the-uk/

What I said was the pp might want to ask herself why anyone in the UK wants to arm themselves.

How that translates into implying that migrants need to arm themselves is beyond me.

Stop trying to suggest something that's not there.

Please name me a ‘posh hotel’ housing asylum seekers, preferably with photos.

I kept hearing rumours about this in one city I know well. Oddly, no one could name said hotel. The city has only two posh hotels. I was able to confirm that neither is housing asylum seekers. Only a dump near a regional airport is doing so.

The Bell Hotel in Epping Forest had a Trip Advisor rating of 2.7 which is pretty dire in these star-happy times before it converted - take a look for yourself.

Ffs.

Do you actually think that all men in Afghanistan are the Taliban, or supporters of the Taliban?

What are you implying then? Just be straight talking.

But it’s not as if concerns about immigration is a new thing. The concerns have been rumbling on for many years now, it’s just that people when voicing them get closed down by those on the left, by the racist label being thrown about. But now the label is being thrown about so much that it’s become meaningless a lot of times, because people have come to the realisation that it’s used to close down rational much needed discussions about immigration. A bit like Germany. Many people agree with Angela Merkle’s policy to allow uncontrolled immigration back in 2015, but it’s only in this last year or so that there’s been a 360 on this, due in part to the negative impact people are noticing.

Thanks so much for explaining this. I was getting sick and tired of the statistics analysis failure too but didn't have the energy to explain - you've explained perfectly 🙏

I'm implying nothing. Take what was said at face value. If your comprehension skills can't manage it move on.

The OBR disagrees with you. Participation in the economy amongst immigrants of working age is 90 % as compared to 67% of British citizens of the same group, boosting GDP.

Readily available on the OBR website.

Oh, hang on. It’s probably in on the conspiracy, too … silly, gullible me.

I think you just won the ignorance prize 🏆

Weekly small boats data published by the Home Office showed that if… current trends continue, the total number of small boat arrivals in 2025 is likely to exceed the record for a calendar year of around 45,800 set in 2022.

The new “one-in-one-out” arrangement agreed with France last month has seen the first asylum seekers detained ahead of removal back to France, but has not yet seen any removals from the UK.
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Nationality breakdowns of small boat arrivals published today cover 2025 to 30 June, and show that Eritrean nationals continued to be the top nationality for the second consecutive quarter.
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Top nationalities in the second quarter of 2025 were: Eritrean (17%), Afghans (11%), Sudanese (10%), Somalia (10%) and Iran (9%).

Eritrea
Violence against women and girls
Eritrea failed to sufficiently tackle ongoing violence against women and girls. Child marriage is prevalent with 13 percent of girls married by the age of 15, and 41 percent by age 18. Contributing factors include the National laws that define the age of marriage as 18 years but allow for girls aged 16 years and above to get dispensation, social and cultural normsand a high prevalence of female genital mutilation (FGM).

The UN special rapporteur on the human rights situation in Eritrea documented ongoing sexual harassment and sexual violence against female conscripts in a context of impunity.

And yet.. these boats are not full of Eritrean women escaping the men sadly. I wonder why. We’re getting the men.

Well you could flip that on this post and ask if you think everyone protesting about immigration is a racist?? Because on this thread that’s what people are being accused of…..

I don’t think you understand how net contribution works. 90% vs 67% statistic doesn’t make it net contribution. Net contribution is about….never mind, you wouldn’t understand anyway.