For thinking that the migrant protests ...

[Ihateboris]

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

See my post above.

People that are homeless often have complex mental health conditions, subsequent addiction, subsequent unpredictable or poor behaviour. They're the unable to stay in the accomodation because of it , they end up homeless. And so the cycle continues.

If only it was as simple as you think it is. But thats living in a bubble for you.

Another big city. Another assumption!

I agree. I'm all for helping the genuinely destitute where possible but some of the statistics around sex crimes perpetrated by migrants are quite worrying and generally swept under the carpet.

That NYE in Germany a few years back was pretty grim. 1600 sexual assaults in one night in what were basically reenactments of the group assaults usually seen in Egypt etc. And now 70% of sex crimes in London are committed by foreign nationals according the police data released in response to a FOI request.

i am well aware of the issues thanks, after working with vulnerable people for over 20 years. Both British born and asylum seekers. My bubble is hearing about the trauma all groups of people have gone through on a daily basis, it’s awful that people are going out targeting people living in hotels through no choice of their own. As the op states target your protests at the policy makers. I am highlighting that people saying that asylum seekers have more than homeless people is an argument stirred up to cause more division and a falsehood which is often brought up by people who usually could not care less about homeless people.

But you can't deny asylum seekers have more than homeless people? You gave a list, but did actually leave out a few things - washing facilities, access to free gp and dentistry, social activities, clean clothing, heating, cleaners to service their rooms and do their washing... Thanks for reminding us once again of the inequality.

All of those services are available to homeless people, in various shelters/ projects - along with things like hairdressing, showers, help claiming benefits and applying for longer-term social housing.
Just saying.
British people, even those who are 'homeless' (the majority of people who fall into this category aren't on the streets, but are part of what's called 'the hidden homeless' - ie lacking secure accommodation of their own - by the way) all have more access to free NHS treatment, long-term tenancies, a full range of benefits, employment and education opportunities, than those claiming asylum.

How can you tell all that just by looking at the crowd outside the hotels?

The people actually prepared to turn up outside a hotel and act aggressively in the full knowledge they're being recorded are almost certainly the extreme minority. And of course the media will use the worst examples. However, there are defo a fair number of people behind Reform now and likely many more who don't want to openly admit it. I don't think they can necessarily all be dismissed as racist thugs tbh.

It's a catch 22 whereby the police are cautious about releasing details in cases like Rotherham lest they fuel the fire of these idiots. However, by being elusive about it they often end up doing so anyway.

Not just with Rotherham, there seem to have been many similar instances. Like after the 1200 sexual assaults on that NYE in Germany the police released a statement saying that the night had passed 'largely without event'. However, they then had to backtrack after the victims accounts started coming out on social media. They then restricted the press from mentioning anything about the ethnicity of the rapists, until this also came out - they were widely described by the victims as 'of North African appearance' or 'dark skinned'.

The police eventually stated that five factors contributing to the occurrence of the attacks were 'group pressure, absence of police intervention, frustrations of migrants, disinhibition caused by alcohol and/or drug use, and disinhibition due to lack of social ties with indigenous German society.'[20]

Then similar events occurred in many other European countries like at the music festival 'We Are Stockholm' where nearly 40 sexual assaults were carried out with the victims mostly being <15yo. These were also not reported at the time with the police saying it may partly have been caused by 2]

And it wasn't just in Cologne that there were sexual assaults on NYE. Also in Hamburg, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Dortmund, Bielefeld, Paderborn, Borken, Detmold, Essen, Helsinki, Kalmar, Zurich, and Salzburg.

Many of these seem to have taken the format of the mass sexual assaults seen in Egypt where hundreds of men encircle a woman and molest her whilst the men on the outer circle work to misdirect onlookers and stop them helping the victim. This practice colloquially translates as 'the rape game' and was happening in Egypt for years before it's appearance in the West. The reporter Lara Logan was publicly raped for around 30 mins whilst covering the Arab spring and almost died prior to being rescued.

Several more journalists also experienced mass sexual assault in the following few years including French journalist Caroline Sinz in November 2011; British journalist Natasha Smith in June 2012; Egyptian journalist Hania Moheeb on 25 January 2013, along with 18 other women; and a Dutch journalist in June 2013.[32]

In spite of there being undeniable racism involved from many individuals I think it's pretty hard to read all the facts and not come to the conclusion that some of these countries have a radically different approach to the treatment of women. However, most people aren't really aware of the above events and the situation isn't helped by the reluctance of the authorities in reporting it.

The answer isn't to demonise people from certain countries but IMO it needs to be clear that we won't tolerate sexual abuse and VAWG and unfortunately this doesn't happen. It gets swept under the rug before the truth slowly comes out, at which stage some people react with anger and others try and deny it or cry racism.

Lost my quote there somehow. Should've read:

These were also not reported at the time with the police saying it may partly have been caused by "the fear to talk about these things in the context of the immigration debate today".

Why is it nonsense? This way the people who want refugees to be welcomed get refugees to stay, the people who don’t, don’t have to support them because the people who do want refugees are doing that, the government is happy because they’re not having to pay and everyone is happy. What’s could go wrong?

My very real concern is there are thousands of young men arriving daily from countries and cultures where women are not only not respected but not seen not heard not employable and in many cases abused with no consequence. Seeing hundreds of these men in our town centres leering at girls and women as a parent of a girl worries me greatly. So many peoeple in the UK make all the lovely noises that we should welcome all these men everyday and put them up in posh hotels and pay for them but non of these people if you said would you be happy for 10 of them to live in the house next door to you would want them. I wonder why?

Funny how all the immigrant haters suddenly care about the UK homeless, when they've never given them a second thought before all this shit happened.

The Government has been forced, through freedom of information requests, to release indicative data. The preliminary findings are extremely concerning. For instance, Algerians appear 18 times more likely to be convicted of theft as British citizens. Congolese nationals appear to be 12 times more likely, and Somalians eight times more likely, to be convicted of a violent crime than UK citizens.

The initial data on sexual offences – which needs verifying further – is even more alarming. The data appears to show that Afghans and Eritreans are more than 20 times more likely to be convicted of sexual offences than British citizens. Overall, foreign nationals were 71 per cent more likely than Britons to be convicted for sex crimes.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/23/mass-immigration-has-led-to-a-rise-in-britain-crime-league/

You are not alone in your concerns, I can assure you.

Yvette Cooper, the Home Secretary, is to appeal against the High Court ruling to shut down the town’s contested migrant hotel.

‘While much of the Left-wing commentariat has condemned the men and women who have held daily protests outside the hotel as “far Right”, locals see it differently.

One of the hotel’s “guests”, Hadush Gerbeslaisie Kebatu, 41, has been charged for a sexual assault on a local schoolgirl just days after arriving in Britain. He has pleaded not guilty.

Wealthy, middle-class people living nowhere near the hotel may be perfectly relaxed about it being used to house undocumented males whose background and reasons for being in this country we know nothing about.

However most people, wherever they live, will sympathise with the residents – and particularly parents – who were not consulted about their new neighbours and whose concerns for the safety of local women and girls are entirely justified and natural.‘

https://archive.md/Xa3i5

If you want to talk 'statistics,' you and your children are far more at risk from sexual assault from men you know - including your own family members, your friends, your own neighbours, etc - than a random 'foreign national' in the street.

What do you even mean by 'foreign nationals' anyway?

🙄 Basic logic fail / wilful misunderstanding.

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The state of some of these men protesting under the guise of 'concern for women in tieir community.' Yeah right. It's the very men protesting I'd be most likely to avoid.

And as for the female protesters, their energy would be better spent dealing with their own husbands, ex- husbands, 'baby fathers' and sons - the majority of whom are hardly a credit to the nation.

Mothers and Daughters are much more like it to Sexually Assaulted, Raped, Assaulted or Murdered by a White British Man.

Buy what proportion of the population are white British? Just think about that for a minute

A survey on the attitudes towards women held bye the men protesting would be more interesting (not in a good way, sadly).

One word: Afghanistan.

You make this sound very easy. I have recently helped someone who was homeless..and I can tell you the system is appalling. For a vulnerable person with noone to help it would be very hard to navigate and in seem instances impossible.

Exactly. It’s a failure to understand statistics.

It’s perfectly possible that an Afghan refugee (or whatever nationality you like to use as an example) is more likely than a British man to rape or sexually assault a woman.

At the same time, because there are thousands of times as many British men than Afghan refugees in the UK, it can also be more likely that the assault on any individual woman is perpetrated by a British man that she knows.

The Afghan man (or whatever nationality is under consideration) might be a greater danger to women because of his entitled attitude, inability to see women as human beings and total lack of experience with seeing women out and about without being covered up from head to foot, but the vast majority of British women won’t encounter this Afghan refugee.

You have no idea what sort of a clue I have. Stupid comment.

So going by your husband's experience that would mean that everyone is some kind of criminal as that's the demographic he deals with.

You might want to ask yourself why they carry weapons. In fact, ask yourself, or even your husband, why people in the UK, not migrants, carry weapons to begin with.

Oh, listen to yourself. Go and give your tin foil hat a polish.