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Ihateboris · 23/08/2025 12:35

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

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Phobiaphobic · 24/08/2025 00:03

ExtraOnions · 23/08/2025 13:51

“Don’t view women the way we do in the West” - because women are treated so well here.

I wish these protesters would stop hiding being “protect our women” banner - they have done fuck all protesting over the past decades, as violence towards women and girls has gone up and up. They should just admit that they don’t like people who aren’t white.. then their argument then starts to make sense.

This is utterly disingenuous. You know damn well that given a choice you'd far rather live in the UK surrounded by British men than take your chances in Afghanistan where the men commonly regard women as chattel. And you wonder why VAWG is soaring in Britain - try joining the dots.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 24/08/2025 00:04

NewHere83 · 23/08/2025 23:57

Why does it matter anyway? Does having a majority mean you're in the right? That's the Nazis vindicated then.

A majority is preferable to, for example, a very loud authoritarian ideological tiny minority. This is especially true on issues that have a dramatic and permanent affect on the U.K. population and are quite frankly utterly crazy.

LOL @ nazis, there’s always one.

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 00:04

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 00:00

Of course it does! Everything’s run on majorities. We elect our government on majorities. What would be the alternative? Allowing the minority to have their way? Why?

I agree. We have to run a country based on a majority. That's common sense and the only way it'll work. Whilst simultaneously doing our utmost to provide fairness and equality at the most achievable levels possible for minority groups.

Many minority groups individual needs actually clash (example: devout religions and LGBT rights )

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2025 00:05

TheNuthatch · 24/08/2025 00:03

Thank you, but that explains the process, not the outcome.

If the process is succesful, the outcome will be that asylum gets granted.

Charlthg · 24/08/2025 00:05

Phobiaphobic · 24/08/2025 00:03

This is utterly disingenuous. You know damn well that given a choice you'd far rather live in the UK surrounded by British men than take your chances in Afghanistan where the men commonly regard women as chattel. And you wonder why VAWG is soaring in Britain - try joining the dots.

It’s always hilarious to see these sheltered women regurgitating what they read in guardian. They wouldn’t last a day if you sent them to Afghanistan to live among the men who now reside in the hostels.

TheNuthatch · 24/08/2025 00:05

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 00:03

But the point is, many choose to deliberately lose their documents. It’s not a case of losing them, but a way to gain entry because the truth about their situation might not make them qualify for immigration to the UK. Ie, if they have a criminal record, of if they’re coming from a country not listed as unsafe.

It also means that their claims take longer giving them more time in the UK to develop a case for article 8.

mrshoho · 24/08/2025 00:05

safetychange · 23/08/2025 22:56

All our local sunburnt bald headed beer bellied ones were waving their flags outside a hotel today. Pathetic racists.

Listen to yourself. I'm sure you'd be at the front of the queue to scold the first person to dare stereotype groups of people. Sneering at hair loss, weight, skin colour is such a pretty despicable. And despite your own preconceived assumptions, wring an England flag and protesting against asylum seekers being housed in hotels nearby does not equal racism. Do you sneer at our armed forces who are predominantly made up of white working class men?

Phobiaphobic · 24/08/2025 00:05

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 23:52

I agree with @MrsSkylerWhite . The large majority of immigrants are skilled, because that is the main way to get a visa. And skilled immigrants are strong net contributors

Given rates of legal immigration over the last few years have been extremely high, why do you think bringing in all those strong net contributors has not led to a strong, healthy economy?

poetryandwine · 24/08/2025 00:06

Hollyohara · 24/08/2025 00:01

Not sure about uk data but in Germany approx 50% of adult asylum seekers (in 2021) were unable to produce any official identification documentation whatsoever. Pretty sure the uk is similar. OF COURSE THEY GET ASYLUM WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION.

You need to know the disposition of the cases before making such a claim. The UK is very strict.

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 00:06

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2025 00:02

In the year ending March 2025, males constituted the majority of UK asylum seekers, making up 59% of adults and 11% of those aged 17 and under. Females accounted for 21% of adults and 8% of those under 17. This gender imbalance among initial applications is often attributed to men undertaking the dangerous journeys first, with the intention of bringing their families over

If you believe that , you will believe anything. ..

TheNuthatch · 24/08/2025 00:07

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2025 00:05

If the process is succesful, the outcome will be that asylum gets granted.

The pp stated that they cannot claim or be granted asylum without documents (as you well know). That is clearly not the case as you yourself have evidenced.

Ablondiebutagoody · 24/08/2025 00:07

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2025 00:02

In the year ending March 2025, males constituted the majority of UK asylum seekers, making up 59% of adults and 11% of those aged 17 and under. Females accounted for 21% of adults and 8% of those under 17. This gender imbalance among initial applications is often attributed to men undertaking the dangerous journeys first, with the intention of bringing their families over

I wonder what sex the other 20% of adults and 81% of under 17's were

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2025 00:07

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 00:03

But the point is, many choose to deliberately lose their documents. It’s not a case of losing them, but a way to gain entry because the truth about their situation might not make them qualify for immigration to the UK. Ie, if they have a criminal record, of if they’re coming from a country not listed as unsafe.

You don't think the UK is experienced enough to deal with those scenarios?

Granted, no system is 100% relable, mistakes will be made.

Chunkychickenlicken · 24/08/2025 00:07

Coolasfeck · 23/08/2025 13:20

It does amaze me that a huge portion of those outside hotels claim the asylum seekers are criminal leeches when they themselves are often jobless (hence having time to spend shouting outside), have restraining orders against them, don’t see their kids and are on various ‘registers’.

Spot on

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 00:07

mrshoho · 24/08/2025 00:05

Listen to yourself. I'm sure you'd be at the front of the queue to scold the first person to dare stereotype groups of people. Sneering at hair loss, weight, skin colour is such a pretty despicable. And despite your own preconceived assumptions, wring an England flag and protesting against asylum seekers being housed in hotels nearby does not equal racism. Do you sneer at our armed forces who are predominantly made up of white working class men?

I know.... The hypocrisy is astounding isn't it ? (Yet no longer surprising) These aggressive and short sighted bunch though are the "educated" ones.itd frightening really isn't it ?

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 00:08

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2025 00:02

In the year ending March 2025, males constituted the majority of UK asylum seekers, making up 59% of adults and 11% of those aged 17 and under. Females accounted for 21% of adults and 8% of those under 17. This gender imbalance among initial applications is often attributed to men undertaking the dangerous journeys first, with the intention of bringing their families over

But they’re fleeing danger? If the country they are leaving is so dangerous, then it will be dangerous for their families too. To get accepted, it can take months or years, all the while their wives and children are living in very dangerous conditions, and could also incur punishment by the regimes in the absence of the escapee. Not unheard of for families left behind to be killed in retaliation.

BIossomtoes · 24/08/2025 00:08

Charlthg · 24/08/2025 00:05

It’s always hilarious to see these sheltered women regurgitating what they read in guardian. They wouldn’t last a day if you sent them to Afghanistan to live among the men who now reside in the hostels.

And you would?

Charlthg · 24/08/2025 00:08

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2025 00:07

You don't think the UK is experienced enough to deal with those scenarios?

Granted, no system is 100% relable, mistakes will be made.

Sorry but this comment wins the naivety prize today.

Honestly, how do some people get on in life, with such naive views.

OrangeZebraStripes · 24/08/2025 00:10

I'd prefer that - one was down the end of my high street. I saw the videos on FB and for the first time I thought I don't recognise my country. People screaming at middle class protestors, people shouting at asylum seekers to go home. I actually want to sell and move and not be here anymore.

Having it so close on my doorstep really made me think about what I actually think and what country I want to live in.

I want to live in a country with controlled and fair migration. I believe we have a duty to house genuine refugees and while it may sound idealistic I don't think we need to leave the ECHR. I do think we need to send people back who arrive by boat, but we need a different system, so people genuinely fleeing persecution and war can have safety.

I don't particularly want a lot of people in the UK who have no affiliation to British values and zero respect for women.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 24/08/2025 00:10

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 00:08

But they’re fleeing danger? If the country they are leaving is so dangerous, then it will be dangerous for their families too. To get accepted, it can take months or years, all the while their wives and children are living in very dangerous conditions, and could also incur punishment by the regimes in the absence of the escapee. Not unheard of for families left behind to be killed in retaliation.

France is fine, this is nonsense. Marseille is a bit dodgy I guess.

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 00:11

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2025 00:07

You don't think the UK is experienced enough to deal with those scenarios?

Granted, no system is 100% relable, mistakes will be made.

Are you kidding me!? No I don’t trust them to act in our best interests. The system is chaotic.

poetryandwine · 24/08/2025 00:12

Phobiaphobic · 24/08/2025 00:05

Given rates of legal immigration over the last few years have been extremely high, why do you think bringing in all those strong net contributors has not led to a strong, healthy economy?

In the 2021-22 census about 16.2% of the UK population were immigrants. Immigrants aren’t driving anything that’s happening to the economy, even if we’ve (possibly) added another 2-3% since.

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 00:12

Charlthg · 24/08/2025 00:05

It’s always hilarious to see these sheltered women regurgitating what they read in guardian. They wouldn’t last a day if you sent them to Afghanistan to live among the men who now reside in the hostels.

Look what happened to the very wealthy and doctorate level couple who went to Iran because, unlike us stoopid people, all you had to do was cruise around freely on a moped, snap some pics with the brown people and get some "local stories from local people" and we could all be fwends. Sadly that naiveté has been very costly indeed to that poor couple.

But this shows how disassociated people are with the rules/laws/totally and utterly different ways of life and reality are lived out in other countries.

The cluelessness is astounding.

Comparing how UK men treat women to what life is like as a wife in a third world or just totally different cultured country is unbelievable isn't it ?

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 00:16

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 24/08/2025 00:10

France is fine, this is nonsense. Marseille is a bit dodgy I guess.

I’m agreeing with you, but pointing out a posters statement that all the men coming here are doing the dangerous crossings alone, to then bring their families over later. I’m pointing out that that’s absolute rubbish. The men attempting to come here are economic migrants, and possibly criminals, and they have left their families behind because their families are safe, and in safe countries anyway. It’s pretty obvious…

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