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Ihateboris · 23/08/2025 12:35

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

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Charlthg · 23/08/2025 23:49

Hollyohara · 23/08/2025 23:39

We’re not allowed to talk about it. Like we’re not allowed to see the data that is collected on ethnicity and types of crime statistics.

Oh the crime data is going be released later this year. Apparently it takes nearly a year to publish it. Probably so it can be doctored and fiddled to show that ‘nothing to see here’.

Politicians, police and the judiciary cannot be trusted. They must not be believed in anything they tell us.

Charlthg · 23/08/2025 23:49

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/08/2025 23:49

No. Because the majority of immigrants using the service are net contributors.

No they are not.

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 23:50

Livelovebehappy · 23/08/2025 23:48

That’s the problem. We don’t know who’s coming here. Men are coming here with no documents, so we could be allowing people in who are murders, rapists, terrorists. We have absolutely no idea. If they’ve nothing to hide, and they’re escaping persecution, then bring their documents with them. Let us check if the country they’re coming from is dangerous. Let us check that they’ve not been convicted of a serious crime, or escaping justice.

They don’t get asylum without documents

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 23:51

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/08/2025 23:46

The most simplistic is YouGov. 45% of UK voters believe that immigration is a problem.

I’m not sure I can give you that one, but nice try. You said you had research (not from the daily mail) that a majority of people supported mass immigration, I do find it hard to believe I’ve got to say considering how damaging it is.

TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 23:52

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 23:50

They don’t get asylum without documents

So what happens to them when they throw their docs over board en route?

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 23:52

Charlthg · 23/08/2025 23:49

No they are not.

I agree with @MrsSkylerWhite . The large majority of immigrants are skilled, because that is the main way to get a visa. And skilled immigrants are strong net contributors

Ablondiebutagoody · 23/08/2025 23:52

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/08/2025 23:46

The most simplistic is YouGov. 45% of UK voters believe that immigration is a problem.

Really? I'm reading (also YouGov) that 72% think that it is too high. 50% think much too high.

Hollyohara · 23/08/2025 23:53

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 23:48

The bar for evidence in asylum cases is very high. Why not read up on it?

You must see that you cannot just claim to be gay, or get letters from your friends. Records of previous prison time, physical evidence (men), doctors’ or counsellors’ evidence, etc. The UK is one of the strictest countries in the world for evidence with only letters from professional admitted

One can also have converted to Christianity (like many good Muslims looking to secure asylum do)..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13067299/amp/Vicars-admit-Church-hoodwinked-asylum-seekers-claiming-converted-Christianity-bid-stay-Britain-insiders-accuse-institution-providing-conveyor-belt-baptisms.html

Vicar admit Church has been hoodwinked by asylum seekers to stay in UK

Here's the paradox: at a time when ordinary Britons are turning away from the Church in record numbers, conversion to Christianity is booming among asylum seekers.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13067299/amp/Vicars-admit-Church-hoodwinked-asylum-seekers-claiming-converted-Christianity-bid-stay-Britain-insiders-accuse-institution-providing-conveyor-belt-baptisms.html

Charlthg · 23/08/2025 23:53

TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 23:52

So what happens to them when they throw their docs over board en route?

Of course they get asylum without documents.

90% of people who apply, get asylum. It’s basically an asylum amnesty at this point. Anyone can turn up and claim it and get it.

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 23:53

TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 23:52

So what happens to them when they throw their docs over board en route?

Source please

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 23:54

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/08/2025 23:49

No. Because the majority of immigrants using the service are net contributors.

You are really going to have to share this research of yours, its quite magical stuff.

BIossomtoes · 23/08/2025 23:54

YelloDaisy · 23/08/2025 22:51

That’s got to be because immigrants were mainly doctors -the ones arriving as asylum seekers arent
edit and just to add that without id we have no real idea who is in the country

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Do you not understand averages?

echt · 23/08/2025 23:54

Livelovebehappy · 23/08/2025 23:36

Which is why we need to get people back into work…..

Any ideas on how this would be done?

Thought not.

TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 23:55

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 23:53

Source please

Source for what? Can you answer the question? If they throw their documents into the sea, what happens to them? You said they can't claim asylum without documents so what happens if they don't have them?

Ihateboris · 23/08/2025 23:57

KTheGrey · 23/08/2025 23:20

Really? I remember a massive vigil/ protest and arrests. It was widely reported.

That was mainly women protesting!

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NewHere83 · 23/08/2025 23:57

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 23:51

I’m not sure I can give you that one, but nice try. You said you had research (not from the daily mail) that a majority of people supported mass immigration, I do find it hard to believe I’ve got to say considering how damaging it is.

Why does it matter anyway? Does having a majority mean you're in the right? That's the Nazis vindicated then.

Livelovebehappy · 23/08/2025 23:57

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 23:50

They don’t get asylum without documents

But where do they return them to if they have no documents? We check biometrics, face recognition etc if that’s all that’s available to us, but if that fails, I’m assuming we have no choice but to keep them here?

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 23:58

https://www.gov.uk/claim-asylum

What to do if you don't have documents:
Attend your screening interview: This is a crucial step in the asylum process.

Provide any evidence you do have: Even if you don't have official documents, bring anything that might support your story, such as:
Letters from people in the UK who are letting you stay with them.

Any other documents that might help prove your identity or circumstances.

Explain the situation: Be honest about why you don't have documents.

Seek legal advice: A solicitor can help you with your application and explain how to proceed without certain documents.

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 00:00

First few pages full of the predicted.

Of course people are angry about illegal immigrants/mass numbers of young male asylum seekers who've crossed many safe neighbouring countries to rock up here and be housed in places en masse that were once businesses bringing in money.

These are not women and children. These are males that have heard "the streets are paved with gold"

People giving out all the "white males are also committing the most rape etc etc " have problems understanding statistics.

People need to stop shutting down legitimate anger and concerns. Silencing is why we are now seeing protests. Because all the swearing, insults and the dreaded catch all 'R' word comes out.

Yes you'll see the most brazen of society (males who aren't particularly bothered what people think of them with no professional registration to be scared of losing if caught at such events ) who are figure heading these protests : but there'll be an awful lot of people : male, female, legal immigrants, young and old that are secretly glad that someone dares say something. its just the liberal left are totally in denial.

Peaceful talks don't work because there's never any meaningful action and furthermore talks go like this : person dares put their head up above the parapet to voice legitimate concern - liberal left shouts at them and calls them "racist". Conversation over.

What the liberal extremists don't realise is that it's not just white working class people this is affecting (because everyone knows nobody cares about them right ?) but it's also our hard working, dedicated black and brown legal migrants and workers as well as many others.

Riots are never going to be 'the right answer' but we do have a problem. and it's well out of hand. People feel scared and uncertain about the UKs future. (Please no more carefully selected pictures of Scott with his shaved head and tattoos - it's manipulative and not necessary)

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 00:00

NewHere83 · 23/08/2025 23:57

Why does it matter anyway? Does having a majority mean you're in the right? That's the Nazis vindicated then.

Of course it does! Everything’s run on majorities. We elect our government on majorities. What would be the alternative? Allowing the minority to have their way? Why?

Hollyohara · 24/08/2025 00:01

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 23:50

They don’t get asylum without documents

Not sure about uk data but in Germany approx 50% of adult asylum seekers (in 2021) were unable to produce any official identification documentation whatsoever. Pretty sure the uk is similar. OF COURSE THEY GET ASYLUM WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION.

TopPocketFind · 24/08/2025 00:02

SquishedMallow · 24/08/2025 00:00

First few pages full of the predicted.

Of course people are angry about illegal immigrants/mass numbers of young male asylum seekers who've crossed many safe neighbouring countries to rock up here and be housed in places en masse that were once businesses bringing in money.

These are not women and children. These are males that have heard "the streets are paved with gold"

People giving out all the "white males are also committing the most rape etc etc " have problems understanding statistics.

People need to stop shutting down legitimate anger and concerns. Silencing is why we are now seeing protests. Because all the swearing, insults and the dreaded catch all 'R' word comes out.

Yes you'll see the most brazen of society (males who aren't particularly bothered what people think of them with no professional registration to be scared of losing if caught at such events ) who are figure heading these protests : but there'll be an awful lot of people : male, female, legal immigrants, young and old that are secretly glad that someone dares say something. its just the liberal left are totally in denial.

Peaceful talks don't work because there's never any meaningful action and furthermore talks go like this : person dares put their head up above the parapet to voice legitimate concern - liberal left shouts at them and calls them "racist". Conversation over.

What the liberal extremists don't realise is that it's not just white working class people this is affecting (because everyone knows nobody cares about them right ?) but it's also our hard working, dedicated black and brown legal migrants and workers as well as many others.

Riots are never going to be 'the right answer' but we do have a problem. and it's well out of hand. People feel scared and uncertain about the UKs future. (Please no more carefully selected pictures of Scott with his shaved head and tattoos - it's manipulative and not necessary)

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In the year ending March 2025, males constituted the majority of UK asylum seekers, making up 59% of adults and 11% of those aged 17 and under. Females accounted for 21% of adults and 8% of those under 17. This gender imbalance among initial applications is often attributed to men undertaking the dangerous journeys first, with the intention of bringing their families over

godlikeAI · 24/08/2025 00:03

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 15:31

This is such a lazy argument. As though people have to suffer for the perceived sins of their ancestors. Every nation on earth has fought wars and sought to expand its sphere of influence, that’s not news. Economic migrants they may well be - which is a shame for them, but there’s absolutely no reason why Britain should either allow them or want them to enter.

Lazy how? People in other countries also did not want the British to turn up there. The point being made is that a direct line can be drawn between colonialism, extractive capitalism and the root causes of migration. If people bothered to understand this, they might think, vote and behave differently.

Livelovebehappy · 24/08/2025 00:03

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 23:58

https://www.gov.uk/claim-asylum

What to do if you don't have documents:
Attend your screening interview: This is a crucial step in the asylum process.

Provide any evidence you do have: Even if you don't have official documents, bring anything that might support your story, such as:
Letters from people in the UK who are letting you stay with them.

Any other documents that might help prove your identity or circumstances.

Explain the situation: Be honest about why you don't have documents.

Seek legal advice: A solicitor can help you with your application and explain how to proceed without certain documents.

But the point is, many choose to deliberately lose their documents. It’s not a case of losing them, but a way to gain entry because the truth about their situation might not make them qualify for immigration to the UK. Ie, if they have a criminal record, of if they’re coming from a country not listed as unsafe.

TheNuthatch · 24/08/2025 00:03

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 23:58

https://www.gov.uk/claim-asylum

What to do if you don't have documents:
Attend your screening interview: This is a crucial step in the asylum process.

Provide any evidence you do have: Even if you don't have official documents, bring anything that might support your story, such as:
Letters from people in the UK who are letting you stay with them.

Any other documents that might help prove your identity or circumstances.

Explain the situation: Be honest about why you don't have documents.

Seek legal advice: A solicitor can help you with your application and explain how to proceed without certain documents.

Thank you, but that explains the process, not the outcome.

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