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Ihateboris · 23/08/2025 12:35

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

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poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 22:49

UN High Commission on Refugees data show that about 0.7% - that is,
7/1000 of the population - of the UK - consists of refugees and people seeking asylum.

We may have problems but this very small portion of the population is not driving them.

Presumably everyone reading knows that the larger class of immigrants are a net economic asset. According to the Migration Observatory at Oxford University immigrants make an average net annual contribution of over £16,000 to the UK economy while British citizens make an average net contribution of around £800. Immigrant contributions are roughly 20x higher.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 22:49

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 22:36

Brexit caused a huge reductionreduction in GDP. There is no evidence immigration increases crime. Austerity was a major factor in the collapse in living standards

Nobody gets locked up for voicing concerns abour immigration. Mixing with the far right is not a good look to voice your concern

Brexit caused a huge reductionreduction in GDP.
Correct. As did Covid. What is your point? They’re blips although a big one with Brexit. It’s insignificant compared to adding 5 million additional state dependent people every 8 years. Contrary to what people tell you, a thousand Deliveroo drivers does not make you any better off.

There is no evidence immigration increases crime.
Prison population:https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf

Austerity was a major factor in the collapse in living standards
Grow up. The majority of people born in the last 5 years are going to be living in shared houses for their entire life because of this,

Nobody gets locked up for voicing concerns abour immigration. Mixing with the far right is not a good look to voice your concern
Really?

TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 22:49

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 22:41

Unless they move to hmo's in Epping

Then there will be more protests. Perhaps there is space near you?

YelloDaisy · 23/08/2025 22:51

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 22:49

UN High Commission on Refugees data show that about 0.7% - that is,
7/1000 of the population - of the UK - consists of refugees and people seeking asylum.

We may have problems but this very small portion of the population is not driving them.

Presumably everyone reading knows that the larger class of immigrants are a net economic asset. According to the Migration Observatory at Oxford University immigrants make an average net annual contribution of over £16,000 to the UK economy while British citizens make an average net contribution of around £800. Immigrant contributions are roughly 20x higher.

That’s got to be because immigrants were mainly doctors -the ones arriving as asylum seekers arent
edit and just to add that without id we have no real idea who is in the country

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/08/2025 22:52

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 22:49

UN High Commission on Refugees data show that about 0.7% - that is,
7/1000 of the population - of the UK - consists of refugees and people seeking asylum.

We may have problems but this very small portion of the population is not driving them.

Presumably everyone reading knows that the larger class of immigrants are a net economic asset. According to the Migration Observatory at Oxford University immigrants make an average net annual contribution of over £16,000 to the UK economy while British citizens make an average net contribution of around £800. Immigrant contributions are roughly 20x higher.

Damn you and your facts 😁

Ablondiebutagoody · 23/08/2025 22:53

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 22:36

Brexit caused a huge reductionreduction in GDP. There is no evidence immigration increases crime. Austerity was a major factor in the collapse in living standards

Nobody gets locked up for voicing concerns abour immigration. Mixing with the far right is not a good look to voice your concern

If an immigrant commits a crime, that would increase crime

VaccineSticker · 23/08/2025 22:54

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-march-2025/how-many-people-claim-asylum-in-the-uk

@Ihateboris here’s an informative website containing all the stats around asylum seekers in the uk and what 5 top nationalities claim asylum here and how we compare with the rest of Europe etc…

How many people claim asylum in the UK?

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-march-2025/how-many-people-claim-asylum-in-the-uk

BeardofHagrid · 23/08/2025 22:54

Hibernatingtilspring · 23/08/2025 21:43

@VaseofViolets given that they majority are coming from countries that we have gone in and caused mayhem (Iraq and Afghanistan two of the highest), my opinion isn't really relevant - we have a moral responsibility to. As well as the basic moral responsibility to help other humans regardless of the colour of their skin or the language they speak.

What you're quoting as 'genuine concerns' aren't genuine concerns at all. It's racism based on ignorance. Just like the abusive men claiming they're doing it to protect 'women and girls'. Its based on prejudice not facts.

And the best way to help these countries is allowing their young men to be trafficked into Western Europe and sold into modern slavery, where they will never see their families again? That’s racist as fuck.

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 22:55

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 22:49

UN High Commission on Refugees data show that about 0.7% - that is,
7/1000 of the population - of the UK - consists of refugees and people seeking asylum.

We may have problems but this very small portion of the population is not driving them.

Presumably everyone reading knows that the larger class of immigrants are a net economic asset. According to the Migration Observatory at Oxford University immigrants make an average net annual contribution of over £16,000 to the UK economy while British citizens make an average net contribution of around £800. Immigrant contributions are roughly 20x higher.

A very small portion of the population? We have very different ideas of what constitutes a small portion. That’s a ludicrously large number - and growing rapidly.

safetychange · 23/08/2025 22:56

All our local sunburnt bald headed beer bellied ones were waving their flags outside a hotel today. Pathetic racists.

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 22:56

TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 22:49

Then there will be more protests. Perhaps there is space near you?

There is a hotel up the road from me, only found out it housed asylum seekers during last years riots.

The people are no trouble, no increase in crime, The only one arrested have been the protesters,

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 22:58

Netcurtainnelly · 23/08/2025 22:30

Where does the infastructure come from to take more people in?
Doctors, Dentists, teachers. It's obvious it hasn't been thought out.
We've got enough social problems too without taking on everyone else's.
At the.migrant hotel.in.my town police are called out several times a week as they are fighting with each other.

Refugees and asylum seekers comprise around 0.7% or 7/1000 of the UK population. This figure is from the UN High Commission on Refugees.

The figure would go down if negative decisions were made in a timely manner and those who could be returned safely, including those attempting economic migration, were deported quickly.

We can afford in every sense to open the country to those who meet the threshold for asylum. Those who have the strength and resilience to make a claim generally have a lot to offer

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 22:59

safetychange · 23/08/2025 22:56

All our local sunburnt bald headed beer bellied ones were waving their flags outside a hotel today. Pathetic racists.

Racists you say, yet here you are mocking their physical appearance instead of saying why your found their ideas disagreeable. You jump straight to the racist insults yourself.

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 22:59

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 22:55

A very small portion of the population? We have very different ideas of what constitutes a small portion. That’s a ludicrously large number - and growing rapidly.

Please cite data concerning percentage growth

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 23/08/2025 23:00

poetryandwine · 23/08/2025 22:58

Refugees and asylum seekers comprise around 0.7% or 7/1000 of the UK population. This figure is from the UN High Commission on Refugees.

The figure would go down if negative decisions were made in a timely manner and those who could be returned safely, including those attempting economic migration, were deported quickly.

We can afford in every sense to open the country to those who meet the threshold for asylum. Those who have the strength and resilience to make a claim generally have a lot to offer

Sounds like they’re doing us a favour. What’s all the fuss about?

safetychange · 23/08/2025 23:01

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 22:59

Racists you say, yet here you are mocking their physical appearance instead of saying why your found their ideas disagreeable. You jump straight to the racist insults yourself.

I wouldn't say disagreeable. Repulsed, yes.

Marchitectmummy · 23/08/2025 23:03

Depends how you measure effectiveness, ultimately the protests closed a migrant hotel so it achieved what the organizers wanted.

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 23:03

safetychange · 23/08/2025 23:01

I wouldn't say disagreeable. Repulsed, yes.

So you’ll happily engage in racism against men of a certain demographic, got it.

TopPocketFind · 23/08/2025 23:04

In 2024, asylum seekers and refugees made up around 16% of
immigrants to the UK. If including the British National (Overseas) scheme
in the category of humanitarian routes, up to 19% of immigration in that
year would fall into that category.

In 2024, there were around 16 asylum applications for every 10,000
people living in the UK. Across the EU27 there were 22 asylum
applications for every 10,000 people.

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01403/SN01403.pdf

TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 23:07

BurntBroccoli · 23/08/2025 22:30

The Dublin III agreement meant we couldn't use our island status to avoid our responsibilities under the refugee convention which we not only signed but co-wrote.

There have always been people smugglers as there is a ready market for cheap or free labour. Backs of lorries used to be the favoured method and, here is the essential difference, those people disappeared into the black economy or to slave labour or to brothels. It is vile and it needs stopping but it didn't result in commandeered former barracks, commandeered hotels or the Bibby Stockholm to house thousands of asylum seekers.

Brexit and leaving the Dublin Agreement changed all that. It opened a huge new market for people traffickers and cross channel rubber boats became the norm after January 2020. Almost all of these people now hand themselves over to border control as asylum seekers. The previous government had no alternative but to house them, there was nothing else legal that they could do. They gave up assessing claims and the problem just multiplied. At least the Labour government has begun assessing claims again, accepting those successful and allowing then to become useful members of our society and, where they legally can, they have deported those who were unsuccessful.

Brexit caused the small boats crisis and the massive accommodation bill.

What a load of twaddle.
They're not handing themselves over to border force because we left the EU. They're handing themselves over because they get free bed and board. They know it is highly unlikely that they will ever be deported. Do you really think that these boats would not be arriving if we were still EU members? Of course they would.

You regularly post this nonsense about the Dublin Agreement, and posters always give you the actual figures that prove that the DA was and is next to useless. Is it helping countries who are still part of the DA such as Germany? No it is not.

I can't be bothered posting the figures again as you will ignore them and post the same rubbish on the next thread, but in 2020 to use your example year, the UK returned 25 migrants to France under the DA. In the same year, the UK received 219 migrants from France under the DA. But you already knew that. Countries rarely accept requests for returns under the DA.

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/08/2025 23:07

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 22:59

Racists you say, yet here you are mocking their physical appearance instead of saying why your found their ideas disagreeable. You jump straight to the racist insults yourself.

Oh come on. You must recognise that a very particular type turns up at these protests.

safetychange · 23/08/2025 23:07

VaseofViolets · 23/08/2025 23:03

So you’ll happily engage in racism against men of a certain demographic, got it.

Bald white racist isn't a protected characteristic. They have no problem screaming their opinions so I'm sure my opinion of them won't hurt their feelings. It's nice of you to be concerned though.

HeddaGarbled · 23/08/2025 23:08

Heartening to see that most of the protesters are being outnumbered by counter protesters.

TheNuthatch · 23/08/2025 23:08

safetychange · 23/08/2025 22:56

All our local sunburnt bald headed beer bellied ones were waving their flags outside a hotel today. Pathetic racists.

You seem rather bigoted yourself tbf.

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