For thinking that the migrant protests ...

[Ihateboris]

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

It’s a middle class trend. Like a badge that must be worn to show how much better they are than national flag waving people who they look down upon.

"So where would you house them? I'm not being goady by the way"

Last December there were migrants in tents outside the Dail in Dublin.

Those problems are because of terrible governance for 15 years, not immigration.

It is entirely legal to seek asylum, as the UK is a signatory to the 1951 UN Convention on Human Rights. You must presently be inside the UK to make an asylum claim. The backlog is awful. No matter your view of asylum seekers, leaving people hanging does no one any good.

If the UK really wants to lessen numbers of irregular immigrants in hotels, etc, one good way to do it would be to permit people to apply for asylum externally to the UK. If turned down promptly, there might be legal grounds to refuse entry. No government has been interested in doing this

It’s both.

Convenient how she faced no consequences despite all the alleged dodgy goings on with the sale of her council house. The police and justice system are just so corrupt. Cannot be trusted.

Anyway doesn’t she always preach to her comrades about the evils of people owning more than one home.

Pigs and their snouts, eh?

We’re facing long term sectarian politics and violence. An increase in population density. A reduction in GDP per capita. Increase in crime. A collapse in living standards: the education tax, pension tax, family farm tax, fiscal drag of income taxes are all just the beginning on meeting the third world half way.

And how do these protests avert it?
They won’t, it’s a separate issue but it is at least making the Government listen to people’s concerns (and stopping locking them up for voicing them),

The Dublin III agreement meant we couldn't use our island status to avoid our responsibilities under the refugee convention which we not only signed but co-wrote.

There have always been people smugglers as there is a ready market for cheap or free labour. Backs of lorries used to be the favoured method and, here is the essential difference, those people disappeared into the black economy or to slave labour or to brothels. It is vile and it needs stopping but it didn't result in commandeered former barracks, commandeered hotels or the Bibby Stockholm to house thousands of asylum seekers.

Brexit and leaving the Dublin Agreement changed all that. It opened a huge new market for people traffickers and cross channel rubber boats became the norm after January 2020. Almost all of these people now hand themselves over to border control as asylum seekers. The previous government had no alternative but to house them, there was nothing else legal that they could do. They gave up assessing claims and the problem just multiplied. At least the Labour government has begun assessing claims again, accepting those successful and allowing then to become useful members of our society and, where they legally can, they have deported those who were unsuccessful.

Brexit caused the small boats crisis and the massive accommodation bill.

You must be so naive to think that the illegal economic migration would stop if there were other ways for asylum seekers to come in.

What a sheltered life you must lead.

Where does the infastructure come from to take more people in?
Doctors, Dentists, teachers. It's obvious it hasn't been thought out.
We've got enough social problems too without taking on everyone else's.
At the.migrant hotel.in.my town police are called out several times a week as they are fighting with each other.

More to the point - who is paying for it? Oh.

Why don’t people want to train as doctors or dentists?

we have had shortages for years.. best part of a Decade to my memory. I never understand why those moaning Don’t consider retraining, or at least, encouraging their children into it. It seems like it’s always got to be someone else who actually does those jobs doesn’t it?

Sectarian violence among migrants is already becoming a problem due to mass migration and open borders. People are bringing their national feuds with them, and fighting them out in this country now. This problem is going to turn into a disaster in the very near future.

In the words of Charlthg, Oh look, what an original comment. Never heard that one before. What a flex.

The reason they protest outside hotels is because it gets media attention -you wouldn’t know if they protested outside council offices as it wouldn’t be reported.

But the asylum seekers are in a safe country in France so they are taking the mickey

YABU. Organized crime gets migrants into
hotels, not Kier.

Brexit caused a huge reductionreduction in GDP. There is no evidence immigration increases crime. Austerity was a major factor in the collapse in living standards

Nobody gets locked up for voicing concerns abour immigration. Mixing with the far right is not a good look to voice your concern

Hardly.

When has any one ever been locked up for voicing concern over immigration?

Possibly legal immigration contributes, yes. The expected 300,000 people from Hong Kong who are expected to seek asylum in the UK and the approximately 250,000 Ukrainian refugees.

The number of people arriving in the UK on small boats is fairly small by comparison.

To Epping, yes.

The middle class have the luxury of sneering because they don’t see the downside of mass immigration. Only the upside. They have the money to take advantage of it, and it cushions the worst effects.

Middle class people like the cheap labour - the nannies, au pairs, cooks, cleaners. Poorer people can’t afford them.

They also have an obsession with food. It makes them feel cosmopolitan and cultured to enjoy the many different restaurants and cuisines on offer. Poorer people can’t afford them.

Private schools, dentists and medical care are available. No need to use the NHS, endure long waiting lists, compete for school places. Poorer people have to.

Antisocial behaviour or criminal behaviour need not be tolerated, they can live in the leafy suburbs. No need to live in social housing or deprived areas. Poorer people have to.

So the wealthier sneer at the poorer sections of society for not enjoying the multicultural riches on offer, when it’s perfectly obvious they can’t afford to.

You seem nice. 😀😀

Unless they move to hmo's in Epping

I am very nice!

But that doesn't mean I can't point out when a rather nonsensical argument has been trotted out before😃