To be shocked women still try to stop aging?

[jillyiam]

With alllll the progress we've made within the feminism movement, why is trying to look younger (neck aging, face-lifts, longer hair is 'youthful') still a thing.

Every being is aging right, why do women still carry the shame of it? Being told you look even three years younger is actually intended and received as a compliment.

If we all collectively shun this shit, the industry that forces us to buy its crap, we'll be so much better off. Mentally, financially everything really.

I honestly don’t know the point of such threads. People just trying to convince the rest of us that ‘feminism’ means we should just accept the aging process—or even worse, ugliness.

Sorry I intend to look as young as possible, because I like aesthetic things. I also keep my home looking beautiful, because I like beautiful things. I wear beautiful clothes, because I enjoy wearing beautiful things.

If you can’t do these things, it’s fine, we can understand there are circumstances beyond individual control. But that which I can control? You better believe I’m going to do something!!

I sometimes get filler, has the person doing your filler ever went over all the risks? Mine does and the one very small possibility which always plays on my mind is the very very small chance of permanent blindness. It's a tiny percentage chance but it's there. So it's not risk free.

What do I feel bad over? if you think my appliance this is what im trying to say. How I look doesnt make me feel bad or good, at all. My self worth isnt attached to is.

This is what I'm trying to say. It shouldn't make us feel good- by depending on it to feel good, you're trapped.

But are you suggesting that taking care of yourself means having Botox/fillers etc? I have always taken care of myself. I am clean, I eat healthily, I drink plenty of water, I exercise, I wear SPF 50 whenever I leave the house, I look after my oral hygiene. I don’t smoke, drink much alcohol, take drugs etc. Do you think I ‘owe’ my DH more than that?
He seems to be very happy with how I look.

Sorry I intend to look as young as possible, because I like aesthetic things

What a strange statement. Why isnt being old aesthetic? Why is just being not?

Who is Halo?

Howling at the idea that you think you can control ageing -the ultimate Narc mindset.
😂
It's a biological process

I think we all know what these " I will never grow old or worse-ugly" women are going to be like in their 50s and 60s
Absolutely raging, toxic and bitter when they realise they have been conned and it doesn't work.
Even worse all this stuff has distorted their features so they look off, not younger, just very wierd.

Self hatred is a terrible thing, so sad

You just aren’t going to convince people that looking geriatric is pleasing to the eye. Because we have eyes and can judge these things for ourselves. Just get over it, you’ll not invert what people find beautiful.

When people draw a still life, do they paint a shriveled, rotten apple? Generally no, unless they want to make a statement about mortality.

I’ve seen beautiful and elegant women in their 50s and 60s. They of course do things like Pilates, Botox, maybe some light surgery, hair coloring, teeth whitening, GLP-1 agonists and other injectables.

Do they look 20? Of course not. But they look very good for their age.

You aren’t going to convince people that aging looks good, aging is actually a dysfunction of the body. Just because it’s natural doesn’t make it a good thing. Death is natural, I hardly think it’s a good thing!

Another saying that I believe was, everything you do in this decade you will see in the next.

Moisturise, spf, hydration, serums, hats in the sun.

I drank and had a few fags, but you can't see it in my 60's because I was religious with skin care.

Inexpensive skincare. I swear by lidl/ aldi ranges.

Having been considered attractive in my younger days, ageing is hard. I know that I am still attractive to my husband and to a diminishingl number of other men. I recognise the harms that the strive for an impossible instagram aesthetic is harming women of all ages, so not having Botox or fillers is my way of fighting back for women. It’s a hard and lonely battle - a huge part of me wants the face lift and fillers. Then I see how those look after a few years and remind myself of the long term prize which is to be 90 with flawless skin!

What I’m confused about is who are you (not you directly, but people) trying to impress.

My pond is 50+ women and men. If I want to take a fancy to someone in my pond, he’s going to be 50-60. I’m not out to bag a 30 year old. Also my friends are around my age, so if I want to stand out, they are the benchmark. I don’t need to look 30. I just need to be a fine aged wine.

I don’t need to “look young” as that’s not my grazing ground.

I often think there must be something narcissistic about people who think everyone’s looking at them and they are in a competition. One of my relatives is like this. She’s 50, gets loads of Botox and fillers (I mentioned her earlier) and she says things like “I need to look my best at Xxxx’s wedding as everyone will be looking at me, and wondering what I’m doing”.

No one cares.

I also wonder how many people trying to pretend to look young through procedures are actually doing the groundwork- healthy eating; exercise (real exercise, not sitting on a machine in a gym for a bit, chatting to mates); keeping their minds agile. No one gives a shit what you look like when your body starts letting you down. But I guess you only start to think of that as you get older. Bit like pensions.

Exactly. Finding a slightly more youthful appearance as opposed to old age attractive is just natural. We are not designed to find old age attractive. A lot of it comes down to survival of the species - to find someone who is able to reproduce attractive.

It doesnt mean you are ugly when old, just that it's not as desirable.

Yes, but you said you want to keep looking young. Beautiful women in their 70s don’t look young. They don’t even necessarily look younger than their age. Some of that is genes, some of it is care, some of it is living a life of relative ease.

I always think it’s sad to see someone look much older than their age due to having a hard life.

Getting old is a privilege not afforded to all.
i also get it about struggling with looking in the mirror and seeing the passage of time.

How I look doesnt make me feel bad or good, at all. My self worth isnt attached to is.

From some of the things you have said earlier in your posts I don’t believe this,
Peoples appearance is always going to affect how they feel about themselves, that’s why most people try and improve on their appearance

My DD has just dropped a bombshell

She says that Millenials are doing all this suff because they are in fact ageing faster due to their exposure to UPF, alcohol,overseas sun , environmental pollution, tech neck, overeating/ poor diet etc at an earlier age .
The Gen Z are all about Korean skincare SPF etc.

That's why they are salty ! ( her words 😂)

Christ!
Have just looked it up and she is correct
pre1965 were/ are healthier and aged slower than post.
Ok I will stand down now
Do what ever you need to do.

Surely the answer to that is to cut down on UPF, sun exposure, alcohol, overeating etc?!

All these things came in so Millenial kids were doing them/ exposed in a way earlier generations were not .

The truth is because of those early exposure they are less healthy/ aging faster

Yes adopting healthier habits helps but much of this stuff is mainstream

That is absolutely NOT what I said, @jillyiam.

I know with my 25 year old son who had incredible good health, never needed an antibiotic, Covid was one dribble from his nose as he was paid for a week in bed!...he moved out 12 months ago and his health has gone to shit.

The penny is beginning to drop that if you eat shit, you feel like shit.

He has just arrived home for a "rest week" at home of R&R to reset his system.

I have just given him a spinach/orange/banana keffir smoothy to start him off.

It all begins in your gut.

A good gut diet, hydration and spf moisturiser are the pillars of good health.

The younger generation are eating out too much.
I know my kids are for sure.

It's literally being a feminist to prove you can look amazing AND kick ass in the work place and the work in general. 😁

The only ones trying to pretend that feminists must ONLY be dowdy unkept feral women wearing birkies and unshaved legs are the ones who resent or hate feminists. These fuckwits are faced with their own insecurities when they see stunning woman who crush them in wit and success.

(I do love my own birkies, I like to mix stereotypes in my own appearance😂)

I am not suggesting anything, we all have our own standards and taste, and not attracted to the same partners anyway.

My point was in reply to those mocking someone for caring about their appearance in respect to their sexual partners, or potential sexual partners. Yes it's part of it, so what? We have the sex life that goes with it.

I want to look the best of what I possibly can for myself, for my partner and it doesn't hurt that I look great at work. I work with what I've been given, but will happily use all the modern little miracles to help out too.

I will never have a problem with a (safe) use of hairdressers/ dentists/ beauty therapy/ cosmetic procedures. Some people are so hypocritical, look down at Botox but dye their own hair 😂

Would I still exercise if men were wiped out tomorrow? Absolutely, I love exercise. Would I work that hard specifically to keep a flat stomach, even after my kids? Probably not.