To be shocked women still try to stop aging?

[jillyiam]

With alllll the progress we've made within the feminism movement, why is trying to look younger (neck aging, face-lifts, longer hair is 'youthful') still a thing.

Every being is aging right, why do women still carry the shame of it? Being told you look even three years younger is actually intended and received as a compliment.

If we all collectively shun this shit, the industry that forces us to buy its crap, we'll be so much better off. Mentally, financially everything really.

I can’t run. Or do weights. Or Pilates. I do walk. but I can’t walk far. I’m on mobility pip.

my diet is good albeit limited by my bad days where I heat up a previously frozen meal.

i also get pip for personal care reasons.

my brain fog was severe and hrt incl testosterone has really helped with that. For me. And it helped my hot flushes and has made my life bearable.

From a psychological perspective for me I feel like I lost a lot of time in my life due to abusive parents and a marriage so now I’m trying to hold back the ageing process so that I can feel the age I feel inside (about 20 years younger than I am).

I’m still grateful to be my age but I’m trying to ‘buy’ more time.

We are tho.

There is a makeup industry just for us telling us to paint our faces. Worth $43.61 billion in 2024, Projected to reach $70.80 billion by 2032.

See these comments are very interesting. There is not contempt. My maybe annoyance is towards women who respond to comments like this by pointing out they dont do it. So what?

I'm talking about the pressure to do it, the economic profit made from it, the suppression of half the human whole.

Wrong, but okay. I'm saying that women who choose to partake in the look pretty game are considered winning at something. Those who age normally are just sitting out the game. Sure, lots sit it out, I'm one of them. Yet I feel the pressure to partake.

Rather than stopping aging, the best thing you can do is look as good as you can for your age.

Why do you feel pressure though? Surely you realise that's an issue specific to you and other women don't feel this?

They call this internalised misogyny. You're trying to stay younger to signal your fertility so men want you. Same with lashes, making your lips bigger, boobs bigger.... This satisfies the male gaze- which, through internalised misogyny you have taken to mean means looks good.

I think everyone wants to be old and wrinkly- its a privilege to live to that point.

What's your age range if you dont mind me asking?

Why do we need to look as good as we can? Why not feel as good as we can?

Many years ago my mums friend was a very pretty blond but prided herself on the natural look, no cream, spf even when doing a lot of sailing.....just soap and water she would say with a superior tinkle.

Bloody hell but at 60 she look so rough, so tanned and freckley. My mother looked incredible next to her, decades younger.

There are no prizes for looking shit.
I consider myself an ardent feminist and I want to look good for my age so I look after my skin.
No face lifts though, couldn't be arsed with that.

Wanting to feel good and be healthy is a given, I would have thought.
You cannot look great if you are in pain and feel like awful.

My shock is that women have really come far in fighting for their rights and equality. In every area of life really. Yet, we've allowed them to keep us dancing this don't age dance.

Why do we dye our hair?
Laser off our wrinkles?
Burn them off with acid?
lift our tits?
tuck our tummies?

It's not even so we remain fuckable in middle age to be honest. It's like it's impolite that we dont try to remain fuckable for them- so we spend all our money and put ourselves through pain to show effort. Fuckable to them is young, obviously.

It doesnt mean that, just that some women have pride in their appearance by getting injections etc. That's all. People do different things to try and look good.

why not both?

We are not cave women, we are lucky enough to have so many options available to look the best we possibly can. So what? you don't want them, don't use them. I am grateful it's so much easier.

I like to look at photos of me looking my best, if that's ok with you. When I finish a race, or when I am at work, that's my choice.

If you want to reduce everything to the need for the other sex to find us attractive, men stay younger to be sexually attractive, women the same, then you live in a very narrow world. I don't care what you think.

The funny thing is that the look preferred by many women is not the one men would have chosen. We, generally, don't like the same make-up, hair colour and if men had a say they would pick something else 😂

I think everyone wants to be old and wrinkly

say what now?

Why on earth would ANYONE want to be old and wrinkly?

Unfortunately it's kind of well known that fair skinned/blonde people age worse 😬

I'm fair but not really fair and lines and wrinkles/bags show up more easily on me than darker haired/skinned friends.

I saw someone from school recently and was internally shocked when I saw her after many years. At school she had white blonde hair and the bluest bright blue eyes. She's the same age as me ... And she looked much older unfortunately 😬 (and I smoked and drank plenty in my youth , so I don't look wonderful for my age myself)

Yes, we have rights, including the one about our own appearance.

Even if men and women want to stay attractive, so what?
I love having great sex, damn right I want an attractive partner and want to stay attractive myself. What woman is attracted by men who let themselves go? 😂
last time I looked (first thing this morning) the gym was busy with women AND MEN - more men than women actually.

I also want to look great on photos with my kids.

I haven't read the whole thread
But I think you're right to a point, men also feel it but less intensely.

I do Aesthetics (medically trained) and i think there's been a massive uptick in men having Aesthetics treatments. I'd say my current patient range is 60% women 40% men.

And other than filler (which i think is a dying treatment anyway regardless of gender)
They have the same as women.

Because society tells me? My social media algorithms show me things I could do. There is a whole industry shoved into my face. It has been since I've been alive and able to read magazine covers. Are we not living the same world?

Im 38. I resist it all really. I take care of myself but do not pursue the stalling of aging. Yet people tell me constantly my hair is thinning, have I thought of X treatment. I should do Profilo, definitely need some botox before this work event. My friends are constantly getting some laser resurfacing and injectables before normal work events.

I've had babies. My tits sag, should I cut into myself and lift them so men like me more?

In my circles:
20% of women dont play the anti-aging game
80% play the game

Just saw about the most women don't have botox etc.

Something I stand by is most people would be amazed at the amount of people who do have botox. Men and women.
It has always been the most popular treatment I offer and I think it always will be.

I think people who chose to stay "natural" resent those who love the cosmetic industry because it creates a gap.

When everyone around you look 10 or 15 years younger thanks to cosmetic procedure, then you look old. People don't like that.

If you smooth a few wrinkles, get rid of grey hair, whiten your teeth, firm your skin a bit, you look younger. A 60 year old will never look 20, but you can look like you are on the right side of 50, or like a very tired 60+ year old.. It's a choice.

The difference is that people who go all out to stop aging don't resent or care about others who don't.

I think the actual percentage of women who have botox/fillers is around 7-9%. So most don’t.

Yes you have 'rights'. Why you thought I was suggesting you dont exercise them is confusing me.

What looks 'great' in photos to you?

And how far will you take trying stay 'great'?
How many facelifts?
lift boobs, tummy, tighten the cervix?
Bleach the asshole?

This is great. Whats the 'right' side of 50? What happens when you're not there anymore?

You are the one disgruntled about people making efforts to stay and look younger, and the best they possibly can. It does include exercise.

Bleach the asshole?
what a stupid comment.

Why are you so bitter about other people choices? Do you feel left out? Do you feel pressured? you realise you won't keep up until you do something?

You've never been to a hairdresser? Never had work on your teeth? Never wax your eyebrows? Never used make-up or fake tan in your life? Wore flattering clothes?

You are trying to tell us you have never given a thought about your appearance and done anything to improve it? Really?

Kindly, I really dont think you're ready for this conversation.