To think if you're that fond/proud of your national flag, you should probably know which way up it goes?

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Of all the Union Flags that have appeared, a huge percentage seem to be upside-down.

Now, I agree with the basic sentiment that people should be able to display their national flag if they choose, that flags should be respected. I think it's very sad that the flag has been appropriated by right wing groups/views.

Which ever camp you fall in, if you're going to put it up, put it the right way up. They're really doing the opposite of respecting it other wise!

You're being too kind they are thick.

I dare you to vote them in. As a matter of fact I want you to vote for them. You need to get it out of your system and see your children and grandchildren suffer.

They are definitely not smart enough for that!

Presumably the council put them up otherwise it is illegal to attach them to council property. I think someone posted a link to the legislation above.

What makes you think I voted to leave or I vote reform.

And what difference does it make whether Reform will or won’t sort out country’s woes.

None of the is relevant to the fact that when governments constantly go against an issue that is important to people and then a vocal minority call those people ‘thick’, then you get pushback. Severe pushback. Like Brexit.

Was Brexit a price worth paying for feeling morally superiority about immigration, knowing full well that people vote against mass migration and better illegal immigration controls over and over again?

Agree OP. Our neighbours in Yorkshire, a pair of teachers, installed a honking great flagpole in their field and proudly flew the Union Jack upside down for years. A Polish delivery driver asked me once why it was upside down 😂

People don't vote against mass immigration. Immigration went through the roof under the Tories and they were in power for 14 years.

Brexit was an exercise in ignorance. People believed whatever they were told eg 350m to NHS, EU is responsible for everything wrong with the UK, exiting the EU means no immigration etc All lies swallowed hook, line and sinker.

Instead of taking responsibility, the same people are doing it all over again and continue to blame others for their willful ignorance. Farage is in the paper again talking about mass deportation and coming out of the ECHR. Coming out of the ECHR won't stop people coming in boats and asylum seekers aren't responsible for everything wrong with the UK. Mass deportation isn't possible.

This is all easily verified and the information is there if you look just like the Brexit lies. However people believe whatever Farage tells them and if you challenge them, they tell you that you're responsible for why they vote Reform.

In the USA it’s very common and has been for years for people to put up a flag. They are aren’t branded racist for doing so -infact people there are proud to be American . There would be outrage if the US flag wasn’t allowed to be displayed in the US.

It’s the opposite in the UK where unfortunately some people see it as divisive to have a flag here. We’re also encouraged to not feel proud to be British here, like we shouldn’t celebrate it.

The SNP is a nationalist party, the name is in their title and they have the Scottish flag associated with their political party. Yet no one ever says the SNP is racist..

Your post proves the point that others are making though. People shoot themselves in the foot by voting for something that materially harms them and their family, because they don't make the effort (or are too ignorant) to find out the truth. They just want to blame someone else for their own inadequacies and shortcomings, and it's easier to blame the 'other'

'The SNP is a nationalist party, the name is in their title and they have the Scottish flag associated with their political party. Yet no one ever says the SNP is racist..'

Not racist, no, but there was a lot of anger amongst referendum no voters at the way the SNP co-opted the saltire as shorthand for support of the yes campaign. So it was very divisive.

In the US, it's not the stars and stripe that causes issues, but the confederate flag is used as a weapon in much the same way the union flag and St George's cross has been in the UK. A certain section of society have used the flags not as symbols of national pride, to convey unity and celebration, but to promote hatred. That's the difference. It would be nice to think the flags could be banners of support, pride and general niceness, but at the moment, they're again being used as weapons, and many do not want to be involved in the sentiments behind the resurgence.

@Southern25 I see this notion a lot that people aren’t allowed to be proud or celebrate being British/English.

What exactly are you banned from celebrating and by whom? What would you like to celebrate and how?

I ask because I just don’t see what’s being banned or restricted?

I'm in a small seaside town in the south west. I think there's probably a certain type of person everywhere who will jump on this bandwagon. But majority of people will hopefully roll their eyes at it.

As a Leftie I can say that the Labour Party have induced more suffering than I've seen in my lifetime. But we don't call them Far Right even though they took the Tories policies and ramped them up through the roof.

In the run up to Brexit I heard an interview with a lorry driver who was voting Leave. He described how terrified he was with asylum seekers clinging on underneath his lorry going through the channel tunnel. I really felt for him and understood why he was frightened but this had nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit, that was about free movement of Europeans. The problems with lorries in the tunnel seem to have been stopped now which is why the number of people in boats has increased.

That's because their policies aren't far right. Here you go:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom

I challenged someone I knew on Facebook about this. She was a fellow teacher who had worked temporarily at my school and had commented agreeing with a post complaining that children weren't allowed to celebrate St George's day in school any more. I pointed out that I had done an assembly about St George and my Reception class had made flags earlier that week but she just blocked me.

I know someone who sincerely believed Nativity Plays were now banned in schools when I had done one every year of my working life.

Kier Starmer is not a leftie he is centre left. The Tories wiped out the money and starved the services. It will take them a few years to sort out the mess. The tax loop hole for the rich will end next year April when inheritance tax on farmland kicks in.

They’ll come.

And your food prices will go up because farmers will have to stop farming.

He isn't Left at all.

Not in the slightest. You should be able to see it by now.

And the 'richness' of farmers, isn't 'richness' in any way. The 'richness' is in the land they farm to grow food and the tools they use to do so. Invesed straight into more seed and animals and feed they buy.

But hey who needs food when you can have solar panels. Yum yum.

Even the INVENTOR of Wikipedia says 'Don't use Wikipedia'.

What, like they are suffering now do you mean? Or will a strong economy, fiscal responsibility, pride in their country and having a job make them suffer more?

Are you too bone idle to look up your own sources?

You are not looking in the right place.

You don’t do your own message any favours by calling your opponents “thick”