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AIBU to think that racism is getting a lot worse of late.

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AliceMaforethought · 20/08/2025 18:13

Just read this awful story in the Guardian. Awful and makes me feel so angry and so unsafe as a half Black woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

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HRTQueen · 20/08/2025 22:07

YANBU op and I am sorry for anyone having to deal with this

we have mainstream political parties that stir up open racism and hate

for too long Farage wasn’t taken seriously enough what a mistake how much more damage can this girl man do to this country

JHound · 20/08/2025 22:07

And course Yaxley Lemmon will never delete this.
Mixed-raced families are likely his worst nightmare.

SpottyCheeseEater · 20/08/2025 22:07

SleeplessInWherever · 20/08/2025 22:04

How desperate would you have to be to get somewhere to risk your life, or the life of your children, getting there?

They’re not illegal until their asylum has been denied, and then they’re here without a visa and would be deported. Which I have no issue with, because once it’s actually decided that they’re not entitled to be here - fine. Until that point, they’re an asylum seeker. Not an illegal anything.

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Isn't France a safe country? They must want something else other than safety. I wonder what that is.

Allmarbleslost · 20/08/2025 22:07

Yes. It's suddenly ok to be openly racist. Social media is full of it.

lkjhgfdsa · 20/08/2025 22:08

Hereforthecommentz · 20/08/2025 22:04

He's not racist, people are always using the wrong terms. It's nothing to do with skin colour. He doesn't like the islamification of the UK. You can call him Islamaphobic if you like.

He's just clever enough not to be openly racist. Doesn't stop the dog whistles though. Remember the "Breaking point" poster? No white faces on there even though it was supposed to be about the EU...

AIBU to think that racism is getting a lot worse of late.
rockstarshoes · 20/08/2025 22:08

YourFavouriteFalafel · 20/08/2025 20:59

We ask about areas not because we want to make sure we're away from white people, but because we have to do a risk assessment every time we visit/move somewhere due to potential abuse and targeting. I would absolutely LOVE to live in the rural English countryside but I could never because of how I look, and how my children could be treated - I wouldn't chance it, the risk is too high.

I’m so sorry you feel like this!

It makes me feel ashamed that you are being treated like this! 🙁

lkjhgfdsa · 20/08/2025 22:09

SpottyCheeseEater · 20/08/2025 22:07

Isn't France a safe country? They must want something else other than safety. I wonder what that is.

To be in the same country as people they know? To be in a country where they speak the language? To be in a country that they like? Probably not for a grotty hotel room, bad food and £9.95 a week.

https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

SleeplessInWherever · 20/08/2025 22:09

lkjhgfdsa · 20/08/2025 22:09

To be in the same country as people they know? To be in a country where they speak the language? To be in a country that they like? Probably not for a grotty hotel room, bad food and £9.95 a week.

https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

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Maybe they like the history and culture.

ilovesooty · 20/08/2025 22:09

SpottyCheeseEater · 20/08/2025 22:02

I think both of us immigrants are being attacked by the usual suspects MN-ers 😂 it's quite ironic tbh.

Who would "the usual suspects" be?

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 20/08/2025 22:10

MiloMinderbinder925 · 20/08/2025 22:06

I'll call him what I like, many thanks.

The crap he spouts is no different to what the extreme right have spouted for nearly 50years.
Only now their message reaches a bigger audience.
I'm not advocating all and sundry can wander in to the UK but the unabated hatred is something that's not required.

YourFavouriteFalafel · 20/08/2025 22:10

Hereforthecommentz · 20/08/2025 22:04

He's not racist, people are always using the wrong terms. It's nothing to do with skin colour. He doesn't like the islamification of the UK. You can call him Islamaphobic if you like.

Do you honestly think that he wasn't being racist when he posted a video of a black man playing with his white granddaughters on his social media and called him a paedophile preying on children in a park?

What has that got to do with criticism of Islam?

Please answer because I'm struggling to understand how anyone can think this is anything but racist!

Bushmillsbabe · 20/08/2025 22:11

SleeplessInWherever · 20/08/2025 21:52

I find it incredibly hard to accept that anyone who moved here because they like our history would have a bad word to say about people who have risked their lives crossing the actual sea.

You cannot choose a country to live in because you like it; and then tell others they can’t.

That would be like me moving to Spain tomorrow, and then telling them to shut the borders because I’m here now so it’s full.

I dont think they were suggesting that we stop immigrants coming here. This poster came here because they liked our country, and wanted to integrate into it, bit the ones they are concerned about are the ones who don't like our country and have a wish to harm it. Those 2 things are very different. The vast majority of people welcome those who wish to come here, work, contribute, and who respect and uphold our values around equality, women's rights etc, although of course there are a small amount of people who hate all immigrants because they are just horrible narrow minded racist people

But to dislike seeing groups of women within some cultures in our country being systematically oppressed, beaten, mutilated, hidden away, forbidden from working or learning English does not make me racist. So many families I work with, all the men are dressed in western clothes, speak English, work, drive and socialise. The women cannot speak English, so all communication with them is filtered through a man (we offer an interpreter but most times this is declined), they literally have no voice and therefore no say in decisions being made about their child. They are at home looking after children, having a child every year as not permitted to seek birth control, in arranged marriages to cousins which we are seeing more and more as a cause for children being born with complex genetic abnormalities, and then being blamed by the wider family for their child being disabled and subjected to verbal and physical abuse. The scale of this issue is so vastly underestimated, as no one will mention it for fear of being labelled racist.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 20/08/2025 22:11

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 20/08/2025 22:10

The crap he spouts is no different to what the extreme right have spouted for nearly 50years.
Only now their message reaches a bigger audience.
I'm not advocating all and sundry can wander in to the UK but the unabated hatred is something that's not required.

He's Britain's most famous far right activist but not racist, apparently.

BIossomtoes · 20/08/2025 22:13

MrsMurphyIWish · 20/08/2025 19:38

I think the number of posters on this thread is also indicative of the acceptance of racism in our times. The post was made over an hour ago but only onto the second page - anything to do with Labour, benefits, migration etc would have been filled by now.

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Maybe because one brave poster who took this up with MN recently was subjected to a really nasty pile on.

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 20/08/2025 22:13

MiloMinderbinder925 · 20/08/2025 22:11

He's Britain's most famous far right activist but not racist, apparently.

My mistake he's sooo misunderstood 😁👍

MiloMinderbinder925 · 20/08/2025 22:15

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 20/08/2025 22:13

My mistake he's sooo misunderstood 😁👍

He didn't post the video because he associates black men with paedophilia, he's just a concerned patriot. Prat, for short.

Hereforthecommentz · 20/08/2025 22:17

SleeplessInWherever · 20/08/2025 22:04

How desperate would you have to be to get somewhere to risk your life, or the life of your children, getting there?

They’re not illegal until their asylum has been denied, and then they’re here without a visa and would be deported. Which I have no issue with, because once it’s actually decided that they’re not entitled to be here - fine. Until that point, they’re an asylum seeker. Not an illegal anything.

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Theres no children coming on boats it's young men. Let's stop with this nonsense. They've gone through several safe countries to be here. If you are fleeing war you'd flee to the first safe country and claim asylum. They come because we are mugs who give, give give.

lkjhgfdsa · 20/08/2025 22:17

lkjhgfdsa · 20/08/2025 22:08

He's just clever enough not to be openly racist. Doesn't stop the dog whistles though. Remember the "Breaking point" poster? No white faces on there even though it was supposed to be about the EU...

Apologies, I thought we were on NF I see you were actually discussing TR. I don't think he's so clever.

dreamingbohemian · 20/08/2025 22:17

SpottyCheeseEater · 20/08/2025 21:58

I came here legally. I have desirable, marketable skills in tech. Married to an Englishman. I didn't lie in my visa or PR application and have been contributing high rate tax for years. I never took a penny from your benefit system. And most importantly I integrate very well. If you do the same in Spain, I doubt they'll not be welcoming.

So you'd welcome anyone just because they arrive here by boat, would you?

Asylum seekers are not illegal

I'm a skilled worker immigrant like you, applying for British citizenship soon. My grandfather was actually from Yorkshire so I have British heritage as well. Absolute bollocks for you or I to cast judgment on others immigrating to the UK. You think being a 'good immigrant' will save you from the racist thugs? The ones calling for 'remigration' of not just illegal immigrants but literally everyone who's not white British? Don't contribute to their narratives, think about where they lead.

BeagleHound1 · 20/08/2025 22:17

I work in a GP surgery and in the last 3 weeks we have had 3 incidents of racism. It has happened occasionally over the years . It hasn’t been misjudged comments it’s been awful attitudes to non white staff and nazi propaganda . In 2/3 cases it was open comments. They felt empowered to speak freely about this.

lkjhgfdsa · 20/08/2025 22:19

Hereforthecommentz · 20/08/2025 22:17

Theres no children coming on boats it's young men. Let's stop with this nonsense. They've gone through several safe countries to be here. If you are fleeing war you'd flee to the first safe country and claim asylum. They come because we are mugs who give, give give.

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Since 2018, nearly 25,000 children have travelled to the UK on small boats. That's according to the Migration Observatory, who used Home Office data to work it out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/articles/c99472jl49mo#:~:text=How%20many%20children%20travel%20to,home%20country%20and%20arrived%20legally.

In the foreground are two children, carried on the shoulders of adults. They are pictured out of focus, looking out to sea. In the distance, a small boat full of people wearing life jackets is seen at sea.

UK Immigration: Why are children coming to the UK in small boats?

New figures show that nearly 20,000 people arrived in the UK in small boats during the first half of 2025, many of them children. Why are they making this dangerous trip and what happens to them when they arrive?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/articles/c99472jl49mo#:~:text=How%20many%20children%20travel%20to,home%20country%20and%20arrived%20legally.

RubySquid · 20/08/2025 22:20

MiloMinderbinder925 · 20/08/2025 19:09

Like London? The most expensive area in the UK and most diverse.

Hmm well that could be said that many of the " white british" moved out of London to avoid the " diversity" Believe it was called " white flight" in the 80s

SleeplessInWherever · 20/08/2025 22:20

Hereforthecommentz · 20/08/2025 22:17

Theres no children coming on boats it's young men. Let's stop with this nonsense. They've gone through several safe countries to be here. If you are fleeing war you'd flee to the first safe country and claim asylum. They come because we are mugs who give, give give.

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I’d probably go somewhere I had people who I knew, or already knew the language. I’d imagine that would make the transition period easier.

I don’t think the North Sea would be my preferred route either, if other viable options were available.

VaseofViolets · 20/08/2025 22:20

Hereforthecommentz · 20/08/2025 22:17

Theres no children coming on boats it's young men. Let's stop with this nonsense. They've gone through several safe countries to be here. If you are fleeing war you'd flee to the first safe country and claim asylum. They come because we are mugs who give, give give.

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100% agree.

MummytoE · 20/08/2025 22:21

Gilead · 20/08/2025 19:11

Dd is being called ‘paki’ again. I’m asked if I’m Asian again, we’re re of Spanish descent.

I'm so sorry to hear that you and your daughter have to put up with that❤