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AIBU to think that racism is getting a lot worse of late.

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AliceMaforethought · 20/08/2025 18:13

Just read this awful story in the Guardian. Awful and makes me feel so angry and so unsafe as a half Black woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

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TopPocketFind · 22/08/2025 20:20

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 22/08/2025 20:14

I just googled and sent you the first two. You are acting like this is news to you?

Because it is news to me

MiloMinderbinder925 · 22/08/2025 20:22

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 22/08/2025 20:04

No. I don’t think anyone has said that. You jumped in a quote/reply conversation between two people and somehow have got very very confused.

So no one is trying to make white British people a minority in the UK or change the demographics?

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 22/08/2025 20:26

TopPocketFind · 22/08/2025 20:20

Because it is news to me

Ok. I feel bad now.

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 20:28

MiloMinderbinder925 · 22/08/2025 20:22

So no one is trying to make white British people a minority in the UK or change the demographics?

Obviously white British will be a minority at some point. The future is brown this is widely accepted.

I think what most people are more concerned about is actual Britishness. Will actual British people (those born here), be a minority. At this rate of 1 million + a year; yes they could be. When the baby boomers die there’s going to be a sudden drop in British.

Sometimeswinning · 22/08/2025 20:30

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 20:07

This is all getting a bit mad now is it not?

The original point of this thread is this guy has been sent round the internet accused of being a migrant pedo playing in a kids park.

That aside if we are talking about 1 million net migration a year, then yes of course British will be a minority at some point.

The discussion is really whether you’re pro or against that. Not that’s it untrue. The maths are simple.

This is the problem with calling everything racist I guess. I can’t read the original but assuming an old man was seen playing with children, different colour and the assumption was he was a peado? Racist.

TopPocketFind · 22/08/2025 20:30

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 22/08/2025 20:26

Ok. I feel bad now.

Don't, if it happens that will be fine with me.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 22/08/2025 20:38

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 20:28

Obviously white British will be a minority at some point. The future is brown this is widely accepted.

I think what most people are more concerned about is actual Britishness. Will actual British people (those born here), be a minority. At this rate of 1 million + a year; yes they could be. When the baby boomers die there’s going to be a sudden drop in British.

I really don't want to derail the thread talking about your pet subject of foreigners. The thread is about the rise of racism in the UK and how uncomfortable it's making people feel, especially POC.

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 20:50

Sometimeswinning · 22/08/2025 20:30

This is the problem with calling everything racist I guess. I can’t read the original but assuming an old man was seen playing with children, different colour and the assumption was he was a peado? Racist.

Well I wouldnt call him an old man. Unless he aged incredibly well. Im assuming 50s. But yes hes a grandad to these two children who are white and hes black. Theres video of them playing on a swing roundabout thing. If it didnt have this context it would be a really lovely video. They look really happy so it’s extra sad this twisting.

The background is that some parks in the country have had the hotel migrants frequenting them. And obviously there have been attacks on young girls. So this video shared it accusing him of being an illegal immigrant and that hes grooming children.

I am really not sure how that happened tbh because if you genuinely were concerned that this was happening surely you would go up and speak to the girls/ man and it would be clear they know each other.

So no idea how this has happened as part of it doesn’t seem genuine. But yes this is racist. This wouldnt have happened if he was white.

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 20:53

MiloMinderbinder925 · 22/08/2025 20:38

I really don't want to derail the thread talking about your pet subject of foreigners. The thread is about the rise of racism in the UK and how uncomfortable it's making people feel, especially POC.

I am not conversing with you anymore Milo, you are just trying to stir things and have no interest in actual conversation.

BIossomtoes · 22/08/2025 20:55

I am really not sure how that happened tbh because if you genuinely were concerned that this was happening surely you would go up and speak to the girls/ man and it would be clear they know each other.

It happened because the video was posted on social media and some sick, racist fuck decided to invent and spread a false narrative.

TopPocketFind · 22/08/2025 20:56

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 20:50

Well I wouldnt call him an old man. Unless he aged incredibly well. Im assuming 50s. But yes hes a grandad to these two children who are white and hes black. Theres video of them playing on a swing roundabout thing. If it didnt have this context it would be a really lovely video. They look really happy so it’s extra sad this twisting.

The background is that some parks in the country have had the hotel migrants frequenting them. And obviously there have been attacks on young girls. So this video shared it accusing him of being an illegal immigrant and that hes grooming children.

I am really not sure how that happened tbh because if you genuinely were concerned that this was happening surely you would go up and speak to the girls/ man and it would be clear they know each other.

So no idea how this has happened as part of it doesn’t seem genuine. But yes this is racist. This wouldnt have happened if he was white.

It's a lovely family video hijacked by racists, there is no background to it.

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 20:56

BIossomtoes · 22/08/2025 20:55

I am really not sure how that happened tbh because if you genuinely were concerned that this was happening surely you would go up and speak to the girls/ man and it would be clear they know each other.

It happened because the video was posted on social media and some sick, racist fuck decided to invent and spread a false narrative.

This is what I am confused about. Did the grandad post the video and someone co-opted it. Or did the racists film them in the park?

BIossomtoes · 22/08/2025 20:58

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 20:56

This is what I am confused about. Did the grandad post the video and someone co-opted it. Or did the racists film them in the park?

The family posted the video on his wife’s TikTok account. It’s all right there in the link in the OP.

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 21:02

BIossomtoes · 22/08/2025 20:58

The family posted the video on his wife’s TikTok account. It’s all right there in the link in the OP.

Edited

Thats really weird. So whoever did it clearly knew it was a family.

Bizarre.

BIossomtoes · 22/08/2025 21:05

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 21:02

Thats really weird. So whoever did it clearly knew it was a family.

Bizarre.

No, it was Tommy Robinson. Why don’t you just read the article?

Robinson shared the video with his 1.4 million followers.

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 21:08

BIossomtoes · 22/08/2025 21:05

No, it was Tommy Robinson. Why don’t you just read the article?

Robinson shared the video with his 1.4 million followers.

I thought tommy shared it, not that he made the video?

Still idiocy but I am just over here processing. And it’s not making a lot of sense why someone would make this video.

ForWittyTealOP · 22/08/2025 21:09

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 22/08/2025 18:53

That’s when immigration went of the tracks, I’m not sure what else I can explain. Is 100k not off the tracks? 200k, 300k, 900k?
what figure would you say is off the tracks?

I picked 2023 because that’s when it peaked, which is why I said peaked in 2023 at 900k. Ot has gone down this year, I don’t have the figures but I suspect this due a larger than normal amount of people leaving.

Yeah, it was c 76k in 95 not the lower figure you cite. And we can all pick and choose our stats if we don't mind people thinking we're a bit thick. OMG migration in the 800k in 2023! Halved the next year but best not mention that, it ruins the drama.

Anyway a lot has changed since 95, climate change, wars, genocides... Are we saying whatever the circumstances it's always a bad thing to take people in?

BIossomtoes · 22/08/2025 21:11

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 21:08

I thought tommy shared it, not that he made the video?

Still idiocy but I am just over here processing. And it’s not making a lot of sense why someone would make this video.

It was made by the family to record a nice day out. And I literally just told you Robinson shared it. 🤯

ForWittyTealOP · 22/08/2025 21:16

BIossomtoes · 22/08/2025 21:11

It was made by the family to record a nice day out. And I literally just told you Robinson shared it. 🤯

But...he can't have! Because "Tommy" (imagine being on first name terms with that thing!) is NOT A RACIST! He just has LEGITIMATE CONCERNS! Like the VAST MAJORITY of Brits!

Oh will nobody think of our daughters?

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 21:19

BIossomtoes · 22/08/2025 21:11

It was made by the family to record a nice day out. And I literally just told you Robinson shared it. 🤯

I am pretty sure there are two versions. One with “grandpa duties” or some such written on it. And one which had that removed. I saw that in the wild online and thought it was weird. I am not sure whether the second one had writing in text or new writing on screen as I can’t remember; but it wasnt the original and was eluding to the migrant park pedo narrative.

The original one; I only saw that after. I thought it had been filmed by racists in the park and the grandad took the video and reposted it with grandpa duties on it to show they were his grandchildren.

I have no idea what tommy posted, I didnt see it. No idea whether hes the origins, or if not which version hes posted.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 22/08/2025 21:22

ForWittyTealOP · 22/08/2025 21:09

Yeah, it was c 76k in 95 not the lower figure you cite. And we can all pick and choose our stats if we don't mind people thinking we're a bit thick. OMG migration in the 800k in 2023! Halved the next year but best not mention that, it ruins the drama.

Anyway a lot has changed since 95, climate change, wars, genocides... Are we saying whatever the circumstances it's always a bad thing to take people in?

Are you upset with the numbers or how I presented them? I said peaked in 2023, that implies it went down again afterward.

Anyway a lot has changed since 95, climate change, wars, genocides... Are we saying whatever the circumstances it's always a bad thing to take people in?

Do you think the 1.5m immigrants in 2023 were refugees?

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 22/08/2025 21:25

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 21:19

I am pretty sure there are two versions. One with “grandpa duties” or some such written on it. And one which had that removed. I saw that in the wild online and thought it was weird. I am not sure whether the second one had writing in text or new writing on screen as I can’t remember; but it wasnt the original and was eluding to the migrant park pedo narrative.

The original one; I only saw that after. I thought it had been filmed by racists in the park and the grandad took the video and reposted it with grandpa duties on it to show they were his grandchildren.

I have no idea what tommy posted, I didnt see it. No idea whether hes the origins, or if not which version hes posted.

Does the video belong to Tik Tok once you upload? It seems crazy anyone can just take a nice family video and twist it like this.

ForWittyTealOP · 22/08/2025 21:25

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 22/08/2025 21:22

Are you upset with the numbers or how I presented them? I said peaked in 2023, that implies it went down again afterward.

Anyway a lot has changed since 95, climate change, wars, genocides... Are we saying whatever the circumstances it's always a bad thing to take people in?

Do you think the 1.5m immigrants in 2023 were refugees?

To be perfectly honest I'm upset at (a) your racism and (b) the fact that you think others are stupid.

ForWittyTealOP · 22/08/2025 21:26

Chickenbone123 · 22/08/2025 21:19

I am pretty sure there are two versions. One with “grandpa duties” or some such written on it. And one which had that removed. I saw that in the wild online and thought it was weird. I am not sure whether the second one had writing in text or new writing on screen as I can’t remember; but it wasnt the original and was eluding to the migrant park pedo narrative.

The original one; I only saw that after. I thought it had been filmed by racists in the park and the grandad took the video and reposted it with grandpa duties on it to show they were his grandchildren.

I have no idea what tommy posted, I didnt see it. No idea whether hes the origins, or if not which version hes posted.

Why are you referring to Yaxley Lennon as "Tommy"? It suggests you feel sympathetic to him - did you realise?

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 22/08/2025 21:27

ForWittyTealOP · 22/08/2025 21:25

To be perfectly honest I'm upset at (a) your racism and (b) the fact that you think others are stupid.

A) what racism ? B) what?

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