AIBU to think that racism is getting a lot worse of late.

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Just read this awful story in the Guardian. Awful and makes me feel so angry and so unsafe as a half Black woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

Fair enough. I don’t know either. I did like my mixed idea though.

Thanks for the chat 👍 nice to have a non vitriolic conversation on this topic.

We are looking to blame the man in the dingy rather than the man in the private jet flying above him.
The population have been manipulated by the press.

Case in point:

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/8ir2_0ig1G8

Do we laugh or cry?

No, you’ve got that backwards. It was OP suggesting she is the right type of immigrant because she married an Englishman.

You certainly tried to make it up, but you failed.

It’s definitely not in there.

But none of what you have claimed is in that report.

That read I searched for your comments (literally CTRL+F) re: net contributors and they are NOT in the report.

It's absolutely skyrocketing. I volunteer for an anti-racism campaign, and the shit that gets thrown at fellow campaign volunteers, is monumental. It's utterly disgusting.

I was struck by the comments of a man I heard on a radio phone in re the Epping situation this week. When asked if he had personally had any issues in Epping (where he lived) he said ‘no, but it’s a big problem that there’s so many people we don’t know about them, what they’re like, what their background is and it makes us feel uneasy’. The host asked ‘but do you know what the background of everyone in your town is? Do you know what they’re like?’ The answer was of course ‘no’. So the man’s justification for ‘wanting rid’ of ‘them’ was no more than he didn’t know ‘them’ but he couldn’t put his finger on what about ‘them’ was making him uneasy.
A social worker then came on to say that in her 10 years of working with asylum seekers the worst mysogny and threats had come from white indigenous men. Never once from the people she was trying to help.
all of which tells its own story I think. Racism is rife. It’s always been underlying but it’s being stirred up by the right wing press and politicians and I feel we are now a society that is never many steps away from boiling over.

Just under half of asylum appeals succeed, which suggests to me that a significant proportion of initial decisions are wrong. The success rate used to be 29%, so either the quality of decision making has got worse or more people are aware that they have grounds for appeal.

To take an appeal to the Upper Tribunal, you have to have good grounds that the lower tribunal's decision was wrong in law, you can't just do it because you feel like it. And if you want to challenge an Upper Tribunal decision, iirc you have to get leave to have a judicial review, which again will only be granted if there is a lot of uncertainty about the UT decision.

A refugee family who lived near me had originally come to the UK to have a holiday while the husband was attending a conference.

You need to read it more carefully rather than trust the search. There are pages of that stuff!

The pearl clutching is ridiculous, it’s a completely mainstream and sensible view to challenge mass immigration and illegal immigration running at almost a million a year.

Not just racism but also xenophobia- im eu citizen,my children were born in the uk (husband is british), we are making moves to move out of the country as myself and our young children have been stalked,harassed and been victims of hate crime- at least 50 incidents involving police and it got worse when offenders were sent on anger management course and were found guilty of public order offences. Even a (british) consultant in a clinic,when i requested a bloodtest which was due anyways- told me, i dont get people like you coming over here,demanding everything.

Asylum seekers are easy targets

Home office statistics for year to June 2025

Visas are 852k in 2024-25
(Peaked 1.4 million in 2023)

Year in year
Work visas down 36%
[21k health/care visas; peaked 200k]
Study visas down 4%
Study dependent visas down 81%
Family visas down 23%
Asylum claims up 14%

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-june-2025/summary-of-latest-statistics

And? Maybe it wasn't safe for them.to return? Would you have preferred them to risk their lives pn a dangerous boatcrossing?

Did they get granted asylum?

The hatred is mostly aimed at those arriving by boat, who don't have other ways to arrive on British soil.

So sorry to hear that

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/21/refugee-charities-install-safe-rooms-and-relocate-amid-rise-in-far-right-threats

Until it’s next door to you.

That's the problem, security of the occupants. At the moment the hotels have security and it's easy to protect an individual building, not so easy to protect a multitude of buildings.

I feel the rise in racism is palpable in this country. I wonder if there’s a connection to issues like trans rights v womens rights and how prevalent ‘no debate’ was/is. People have some legitimate concerns like ‘is immigration affecting equal access to services in our country’ or ‘should people born male have access to female spaces’ - but for a long were called bigots for even asking questions.

After a time, people get angry and blamey about being shut down like that. And it’s (often vulnerable) individuals who suffer, not the powerful.

I feel the rise in racism is palpable in this country. I wonder if there’s a connection to issues like trans rights v womens rights and how prevalent ‘no debate’ was/is. People have some legitimate concerns like ‘is immigration affecting equal access to services in our country’ or ‘should people born male have access to female spaces’ - but for a long were called bigots for even asking questions.

After a time, people get angry and blamey about being shut down like that. And it’s (often vulnerable) individuals who suffer, not the powerful.

The rise in ‘racism’ is simply white British people joining in identity politics. It’s distasteful, but their children are f*cked if they don’t start pushing back.

Why are their children fucked?

Care to say what you actually mean instead of talking in riddles?
Also why racism in inverted commas? Do you believe it doesn't exist or something?
As for white British people, why do you see anyone calling out racism as "joining in identity politics?" Would you rather everyone just shut up about it and let people racially abuse others without being called out on it? 🙄