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AIBU to think that racism is getting a lot worse of late.

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AliceMaforethought · 20/08/2025 18:13

Just read this awful story in the Guardian. Awful and makes me feel so angry and so unsafe as a half Black woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

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TopPocketFind · 21/08/2025 19:54

MumOfManyAliases · 21/08/2025 19:50

We didn’t really get Brexit though, did we.

We did, we left the EU

MiloMinderbinder925 · 21/08/2025 19:55

MumOfManyAliases · 21/08/2025 19:50

We didn’t really get Brexit though, did we.

We left the EU which is what Brexit was. Strange how Brexiters are now quibbling about the details.

ForWittyTealOP · 21/08/2025 19:55

User32459 · 21/08/2025 19:10

I think a lot of the public have snapped over immigration because of highly irresponsible immigration and open border policies and sheer cowardice from politicians to deal with the invasion from the small boats.

Within that, tensions are high and racism in society is sadly increasing.

IMO excessive liberalism has destroyed Britain, whether it's immigration, law and order, some of the trans stuff etc etc. Everything is liberal policy. We know we'll get that from Labour but for 14 years of the Tories governing as liberals on top and now we've got Labour back in and the public have finally snapped. Migrants coming here knowing here know they'll be treated like kings, and our liberal society will never remove them, so more and more are turning up.

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Oh what a load of rubbish! Honestly, do you even believe that?

SpottyCheeseEater · 21/08/2025 19:59

nomas · 21/08/2025 18:55

You’re not a special class of immigrant because your husband is English Hmm

Oh how rude 😂. Quite funny really.

User32459 · 21/08/2025 20:01

ForWittyTealOP · 21/08/2025 19:55

Oh what a load of rubbish! Honestly, do you even believe that?

I know people i'm friends with at work. People who have no interest in politics or are even left wing liberal types who have recently said they're going to vote Reform to 'stop the boats'.

I don't want Nigel Farage as PM, he's an absolute grifter who'll do a lot of damage, but that's what we're going to get because of useless, cowardly politicians.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 21/08/2025 20:03

User32459 · 21/08/2025 20:01

I know people i'm friends with at work. People who have no interest in politics or are even left wing liberal types who have recently said they're going to vote Reform to 'stop the boats'.

I don't want Nigel Farage as PM, he's an absolute grifter who'll do a lot of damage, but that's what we're going to get because of useless, cowardly politicians.

No 'left wing liberal types' are going to vote Farage to 'stop the boats'.

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/08/2025 20:05

hairbearbunches · 21/08/2025 19:27

The country was wrecked a long time before 2016. Brexit was a symptom of that wrecked landscape..

It wasn't wrecked by brown people in the park or those who arrived a very short time ago.

Blaming them is racism.
The TR post we're talking about is racism.
The OP is correct, racism is getting worse in the UK.
Far from improvingtanything, racism is making things worse.

TopPocketFind · 21/08/2025 20:07

User32459 · 21/08/2025 20:01

I know people i'm friends with at work. People who have no interest in politics or are even left wing liberal types who have recently said they're going to vote Reform to 'stop the boats'.

I don't want Nigel Farage as PM, he's an absolute grifter who'll do a lot of damage, but that's what we're going to get because of useless, cowardly politicians.

Farage is not going to stop the boats, he knows the 'return them to France/ Afghanistan' is just empty words and impossible to do.

lkjhgfdsa · 21/08/2025 20:07

User32459 · 21/08/2025 19:43

They've paid human traffickers money to break into our country. They could be classed as criminals for doing that.

And i'd support the opening up of more safe routes (for numbers we can sustain) in exchange for stopping this unsustainable madness.

Which is exactly what the government are now trying to do with the deal with France.

TopPocketFind · 21/08/2025 20:12

lkjhgfdsa · 21/08/2025 20:07

Which is exactly what the government are now trying to do with the deal with France.

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Also deals with Albania and now Iraq, as well as co-operating with Bulgaria intercepting deliveries of boats.

nomas · 21/08/2025 20:47

SpottyCheeseEater · 21/08/2025 19:59

Oh how rude 😂. Quite funny really.

Why is it rude to say you’re not a special immigrant? What’s with your sense of superiority over other immigrants?

BuildingAshes · 21/08/2025 20:50

nomas · 21/08/2025 20:47

Why is it rude to say you’re not a special immigrant? What’s with your sense of superiority over other immigrants?

No, the poster you directed your ire at is absolutely correct. It IS rude. And totally unnecessary. You can disagree with others without resorting to insults.

JHound · 21/08/2025 21:04

Ablondiebutagoody · 21/08/2025 16:08

OBR Fiscal Risks and Sustainability Report, Sept 24

@Ablondiebutagoody

This is the report you reference:

https://obr.uk/frs/fiscal-risks-and-sustainability-september-2024/#chapter-1

I searched for your comments re: net contributors and they are contained within the report.

Are you possibly in receipt of bad information?

Fiscal risks and sustainability – September 2024 - Office for Budget Responsibility

The latest update of our assessment of the current pressures on the public finances was published in our 2024 Fiscal risks and sustainability report.

https://obr.uk/frs/fiscal-risks-and-sustainability-september-2024/

Ablondiebutagoody · 21/08/2025 21:15

JHound · 21/08/2025 21:04

@Ablondiebutagoody

This is the report you reference:

https://obr.uk/frs/fiscal-risks-and-sustainability-september-2024/#chapter-1

I searched for your comments re: net contributors and they are contained within the report.

Are you possibly in receipt of bad information?

That's the one. It's an extremely dry and lengthy document but all in there.

nomas · 21/08/2025 21:16

BuildingAshes · 21/08/2025 20:50

No, the poster you directed your ire at is absolutely correct. It IS rude. And totally unnecessary. You can disagree with others without resorting to insults.

How is it insulting to tell someone they’re not special because they married an English man?

SleeplessInWherever · 21/08/2025 21:26

nomas · 21/08/2025 21:16

How is it insulting to tell someone they’re not special because they married an English man?

I’m about to marry my second English man, they’re not even that good.

Chickenbone123 · 21/08/2025 21:31

PhilippaGeorgiou · 21/08/2025 17:45

I have just triple checked what I already knew.

An airline carrying an undocumented passenger into the UK is fined £2000 per passenger and must return the passenger to the country from which they travelled. Carriers Liability Act 1987. There is similar legisation in place for commercial boat carriers. And fines of up to £10,000 for anyone found to be carrying an undocumented migrant clandestinely even if they didn't know the person was there.

So @Bushmillsbabe - how did these several staff and patients do something which is impossible to do? Or are you saying that you are employing and treating undocumented migrants who have actually arrived illegally? Because that would be the only way they arrived without having a visa on any form of commercial transport.

I don’t know how but lots do come in planes. There’s loads of videos on YouTube of people chatting to asylum seekers in hotels and lots say they came on boats, lots say they came on planes. A small portion say lorries.

Ablondiebutagoody · 21/08/2025 21:37

JHound · 21/08/2025 21:04

@Ablondiebutagoody

This is the report you reference:

https://obr.uk/frs/fiscal-risks-and-sustainability-september-2024/#chapter-1

I searched for your comments re: net contributors and they are contained within the report.

Are you possibly in receipt of bad information?

It's all pretty intuitive really. An average wage migrant is a slightly higher net contributor than an average wage British born person because they come here aged 25 so don't use the education system, health care etc. before that. Low wage migrants are large net recipients. As would be low wage Brits.

Chickenbone123 · 21/08/2025 21:48

In brighter news.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/08/20/home-office-appeal-5000-homes-20000-migrants-hotels/

Theres c. 650 towns and 6000 villages in the country. One house each would make the hotel issue disappear quickly.

I would also mix up the origin to have balanced houses (bar families obviously). So rather than 4 from one country in a house. You have max one from each country and try to mix religions, or variations of ie, Sunni, Shia.

MumOfManyAliases · 21/08/2025 22:03

Chickenbone123 · 21/08/2025 21:48

In brighter news.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/08/20/home-office-appeal-5000-homes-20000-migrants-hotels/

Theres c. 650 towns and 6000 villages in the country. One house each would make the hotel issue disappear quickly.

I would also mix up the origin to have balanced houses (bar families obviously). So rather than 4 from one country in a house. You have max one from each country and try to mix religions, or variations of ie, Sunni, Shia.

Why should migrants jump the queue? Do you know how long people normally have to wait for a Council house? What about homeless British people who are already living on the streets? Why should migrants take priority over them?

TopPocketFind · 21/08/2025 22:06

MumOfManyAliases · 21/08/2025 22:03

Why should migrants jump the queue? Do you know how long people normally have to wait for a Council house? What about homeless British people who are already living on the streets? Why should migrants take priority over them?

Where would you house them?

FWIW, migrants do not jump queue, neither do asylum seekers

MiloMinderbinder925 · 21/08/2025 22:08

Chickenbone123 · 21/08/2025 21:48

In brighter news.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/08/20/home-office-appeal-5000-homes-20000-migrants-hotels/

Theres c. 650 towns and 6000 villages in the country. One house each would make the hotel issue disappear quickly.

I would also mix up the origin to have balanced houses (bar families obviously). So rather than 4 from one country in a house. You have max one from each country and try to mix religions, or variations of ie, Sunni, Shia.

How is that good news? There are 30k currently in hotels having their claims processed. Where do they go?

User32459 · 21/08/2025 22:09

MumOfManyAliases · 21/08/2025 22:03

Why should migrants jump the queue? Do you know how long people normally have to wait for a Council house? What about homeless British people who are already living on the streets? Why should migrants take priority over them?

I'm sure the general public will be delighted to have unvetted men move in next door into HMO's.

But then it'll be dumped on working class areas, as ever, not the leafy shires and nice areas where the politicians and liberal middle classes live.

TopPocketFind · 21/08/2025 22:12

User32459 · 21/08/2025 22:09

I'm sure the general public will be delighted to have unvetted men move in next door into HMO's.

But then it'll be dumped on working class areas, as ever, not the leafy shires and nice areas where the politicians and liberal middle classes live.

Have you thought about where you are going to build the offshore detention centres, now you have ruled out hotels and hmo's?

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/08/2025 22:12

User32459 · 21/08/2025 22:09

I'm sure the general public will be delighted to have unvetted men move in next door into HMO's.

But then it'll be dumped on working class areas, as ever, not the leafy shires and nice areas where the politicians and liberal middle classes live.

What vetting do you think happens before UK citizens move into a HMO?Confused