AIBU to think that racism is getting a lot worse of late.

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Just read this awful story in the Guardian. Awful and makes me feel so angry and so unsafe as a half Black woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

You’re not a special class of immigrant because your husband is English

You were the one who asserted that people could get fake visas to travel to the UK and then claim asylum when they get here.

You have just demonstrated that this would be very difficult.

Hang on here. YOU claimed the people were arriving in the UK with forged papers. What Nepal or India might or might not have, then or now, is irrelevant. You claimed people were arriving in the UK on forged papers - a country that does have all the technology - and not being detected. Several of whom you personally know. You claim.

It was actually fairly stable for the first 6 months we were there in central areas at least, until early 2006. There were no travel advisories in place at that point saying not to travel to central Nepal, unrest was in remote rural areas only.
I had travel insurance.

I travelled with a charity, supporting with casting and rehabilitation following orthopaedic surgery for children who had severe leg deformities caused by polio, who could not afford to pay for surgery, along with lecturing on the first Physiotherapy training programme in Nepal.

I think you're spot on, @MiloMinderbinder925 .

Asylum seekers are the wedge that the far-right are using to make themselves popular enough to form a government. Who knows what the fuck will come next if they get into power.

The whole spectrum of UK politics has drifted rightward over my lifetime. Starmer's Labour are closer to the Tory government of Macmillan and Douglas Home than they are to Labour under Harold Wilson.

Enoch Powell was vilified for his xenophobic views, but they were no different from those of Reform leaders today.

BTW. Just to add that the Nepalese civil war started in 1996. You didn't notice that in 2005?

if the bleeding heart liberals had as much compassion for the working class who have been shafted for the last 40 odd years as they do for asylum seekers and foreign workers, this country would look very different.

If the racist right hadn't wrecked our economy in 2016 and the last Tory government spent their time in office, running in the country properly, this country would look very different.

The UK is a bit of a mess atm. Its not the fault of people who only arrived on our shores 15 minutes ago.🙄

There's no excuse for racism.

A war that had gone on for ten years was "stable"?

Anyway, irrelevant... India is not the UK.

Just because you don't like what you've heard, doesn't necessarily make it bs. I'll keep my mind open thanks. Just because we're lucky enough to live privileged sanitised lives doesn't mean things like this don't happen. If you're desperate enough to escape, you'll do anything. If you're escaping a war torn country or fleeing from persecution and someone offers you a lift in a dingy across turbulent water or a dodgy visa plan, which one would you take? Which would be the least dangerous option? I have a close friend who works as an immigration solicitor and it would literally blow your mind what kind of scams people pull to get here - not because they're all bad people, but because they are literally desperate to get the chance of a better life for their families.

Neo nazis mixing with Reform councillors at the protests and other examples.

https://bylinetimes.com/2025/08/21/the-reform-and-conservative-politicians-mingling-with-neo-nazis-and-fascists-at-asylum-hotel-protests/

I never said they were undetected here. On arrival they admitted their papers were false and stated wished to claim asylum.

Open your mind to the concept that things that seem unbelievable from our western point of privilege, could be true.

I think a lot of the public have snapped over immigration because of highly irresponsible immigration and open border policies and sheer cowardice from politicians to deal with the invasion from the small boats.

Within that, tensions are high and racism in society is sadly increasing.

IMO excessive liberalism has destroyed Britain, whether it's immigration, law and order, some of the trans stuff etc etc. Everything is liberal policy. We know we'll get that from Labour but for 14 years of the Tories governing as liberals on top and now we've got Labour back in and the public have finally snapped. Migrants coming here knowing here know they'll be treated like kings, and our liberal society will never remove them, so more and more are turning up.

You think no charity ever travels to countries which aren't 100% stable to carry out humanitarian work? It's those places where it's needed most.

Yes, I'm sure Google told you that information. I have explained already that unrest was confined to remote areas at that time, we were based about 30 miles outside the capital.

The public have finally snapped

Stop excusing racist scum and victim blaming immigrants.

The immigrants aren't to blame.

I'm blaming highly irresponsible politicians.

Britain is an extremely tolerant country but you can only push people so far. Particularly when we're in a cost of living crisis and nothing works in the country. People can't afford housing, there's not enough housing, but the government still even legally allow a million plus people in every year. The huge amounts of illegal migrants on top is also a result of political cowardice and they all have to be housed at our expense. The public have simply had enough.

Quoted wrong post, sorry

And who is going to stop the 'invasion'?

And how?

Really, I haven't shown any compassion to people struggling? Where have I said we shouldn't accept asylum seekers, please show me. You are the one calling people criminals, in my mind, they did what they had to do to escape as a family. I have stated I have an issue with vunerable women and children being left behind.

You haven't proved anything, you have made a narrow minded assumption that you are correct because you can't wrap your head around it.

I have provided facts. Not more lovely " I reliably heard it from someone who told someone..." I don't like it when people state things that are demonstrably untrue then change their story to something entirely irrelevant when it is proven to be untrue. You have utterly no idea what "unsanitised" life I have led. And I know more about war torn countries than you will ever know. I guarantee that. Dodgy papers do not get you into the UK. Some very few, very excellent, very expensive papers might - the minute it comes to light, which it would, you are a criminal and blew every chance of asylum you could have. Yet that poster claims to know many people who did just that? Keeping an open mind doesn't need to mean being stupid.

We have to take away the incentives and the liberal paradigm in Britain. How many asylum seekers are Poland accepting?

Illegal migrants need to be detained, not put up in hotels or houses and allowed to roam around town. Even Macron has told us we're nuts.

I think we need to announce an emergency freeze on all asylum applications while we can deal with a backlog. It's one big racket. But nobody has the guts to do anything that would actually be a deterrent anyway. Starmer was a human rights lawyer - he's the exact sort of liberal that has helped create the madness.

The country was wrecked a long time before 2016. Brexit was a symptom of that wrecked landscape..

Are you including refugees from Ukraine?

And what are the incentives and liberal paradigm?

Where will you detain refugees and asylum seekers?

You edited to add human rights

Which human rights would you take away from asylum seekers?

A lot of people thought that, but the control of our borders that was promised by Ukip was a huge, fat, lie.

We used to have the right to return asylum seekers to the first safe EU country they passed through under the Dublin agreement. Brexit means we no longer have that right, so now people who arrive here and claim asylum can stay until their claims are decided, and indefinitely if their claims succeed, making it much more attractive to come here.

I suspect the Venn diagram of Brexit voters and people angry about people in boats rocking up and claiming asylum has a huge overlap. Anyone who's in both categories really needs to give themselves a talking to.

Please tell me in what way migrants are being treated like kings.

A quick google says:

'Conditions in migrant hotels in the UK can vary, but are often criticized for being inadequate and lacking privacy, and adequate facilities like kitchens. Residents, including vulnerable individuals, have reported experiencing issues such as rancid food, unsanitary living spaces, lack of clothing, and inadequate healthcare. Vulnerable groups, such as female asylum seekers and victims of trafficking, are at higher risk of harassment and abuse. The lack of privacy, inadequate conditions, and heightened sense of insecurity contribute to poor mental health and even suicidal thoughts among residents.'

Most of us wouldn't last more than a couple of days in such awful conditions. The false narrative that asylum seekers are living in luxury just encourages the hate and prejudice that led to the riots last summer.

They did what they had to do - much like the people on small boats then?