AIBU to think that racism is getting a lot worse of late.

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Just read this awful story in the Guardian. Awful and makes me feel so angry and so unsafe as a half Black woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

Well as we've seen on here, they'll always be criticised for something! Best not to give anymore ammunition to the bigots. The vast majority of single asylum seekers are fleeing regimes to secure a safe passage for the rest of their family.

@SleeplessInWherever but you didn’t answer the question I actually asked.

Two things can be true at the same time.
They want safety and to choose where they seek safety from.

No idea why that’s a strange concept for many.

There are two “us and them” narratives.

Racists and non-racists.

Immigrants/people perceived to be immigrants because they happen to not be white British etc…. And racists.

There are a few people with genuine concerns and ideas around immigration and how it could be managed. Who IMO are unfortunately overshadowed. By racists.

Racism and all the contortions racists go through to try and justify it.

There's a significant Kurdish population in my nearest city, nearly all of whom came here as asylum seekers. One of my friends is Kurdish and arrived here, not on an inflatable boat, but in the boot of a car.

I've met several of her Kurdish friends, all of whom fled persecution in their home countries and came to the UK. The Home Office clearly recognised that Kurds are a persecuted group in their home countries and they all got refugee status without any hassle.

I've never heard of any of them experiencing racial abuse or discrimination in the way that recent migrants from Africa and Asia seem to, and I'm starting to come to the conclusion that it's because they have pale skin and don't look "foreign".

@SleeplessInWhereverhow do you know which camp you fall into? I though the leftwing position is that everyone had unconscious/ implicit bias and therefore us racist to some degree?

If you think it’s unfortunate that the few with genuine concerns are overshadowed, do you also have concerns about immigration?

Honestly just look at what you have written. I could literally accuse you of the same ie. Being in an echo chamber and bleating on about immigration.

I haven’t illustrated any of my views. Except that we should all be worried about reform. But yes thankyou. How very psychic of you 😅

I agree. I don’t see how we can move from this scarcity mindset. It’s been this way for nearing 2 decades now.

That's tragic and shows that there really is no good option apart from the creation of safe and legal routes. It's always going to be less dangerous for men to make the journey first, in the absence of those safe routes.

Absolutely. But in this case, the mother and child REALLY did need to be sent first, because the ramifications of the father leaving were too huge to bear. I think that's what the pp is saying. But yes, legal routes to asylum need to be implemented ultimately.

85% of Bournemouth is British born (2021 census).

@GodSaveTheCleanim sure the 2021 census figures will really help you in your daily life. Well done @TopPocketFind

Then do it the legal way, like I did!

One of the main reasons women and children dont go first is the risk they will be sold into slavery.

Seeking asylum is a legal way

I absolutely love history. We should learn from it and not shy away from discussing it. But I see people throwing slurs at British online saying they are colonisers and they want repatriation now. Maybe they need to ask the African slave sellers first.

Through family sponsorship visa. Many of asylum seekers are from Pakistan, Vietnam, these countries are not even at war.

That's a shame because I believe what I wrote was very clear. You said that everyone you know and the majority of the population talk about nothing but immigration and blame everything wrong in the country on foreigners. I offered alternative explanations for some of the issues you raised and you're accusing me of 'bleating on about immigrants'.

This is the "I'm not you are" defence.

You don't claim asylum because of war, you claim because you have a well founded fear of persecution.

Why is it a stupid argument?

The majority of the UK don't want to pay for asylum seekers or subsidise immigrants. If you want them here then you pay for them.

You don't speak for the majority. Own your prejudice.

Subsidise immigrants, how?

I totally agree with you, people are less tolerant of anyone who is different from them. Its absolutely disgusting and frightens me. I've noticed a lot of talk/accusations online with zero evidence, must be the 'Trump' affect.

There are sub groups being persecuted in Vietnam, a close friends on mine family sought asylum here when she was young, came here as a family. Unfortunately her grandparents were too frail to make the journey and they were killed.