AIBU to think that racism is getting a lot worse of late.

[AliceMaforethought]

Just read this awful story in the Guardian. Awful and makes me feel so angry and so unsafe as a half Black woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

Through the taxation system???

Do you live in the real world

There is no legal way for asylum seekers to enter the country.

Even if they travel with men? Women and children do make it here, the family I work with, she begged him to wait until enough money saved for all 3 of them to go, he said no!

Everyone is subsided by taxation, or do you not use roads for example?

Yes there is, on arrival at any UK airport or port, can state that wish to claim asylum. They are interviewed, claim is started and depending on circumstances, can go to stay with friends/family or are housed by the UK government

They’re British roads, for British people.

There are net taxpayers and tax eaters.

Asylum seekers very rarely become net taxpayers, their children very rarely become net taxpayers. The subsidy each immigrant requires in their life time if they retire here is circa 500k more than the amount of tax they pay in (if they work).

Do you understand now?

Do you understand the difference between refugees, asylum seekers and migrants?

What about tourists, business travellers etc?

How are they supposed to get around.

@Dorisbonson Can you share you source(s) for those numbers?

You do know that being at war is not the only reason to seek asylum?

It’s a sad indictment of MN that I thought this was serious at first! 😂

The Vietnamese are also some of the most trafficked in the world.

What are you talking about?

Source?

Visa?

Why don't they just do that instead of risking their lives on small boats in a busy shipping channel

In the 1970s, 80s and 90s the racism was overt and a badge of honour for the people espousing those views. The BNP and Combat 18 prided themselves on being racists and neo-Nazis. There was no ambiguity or plausible denialism with 'There Ain't No Black in the Union Jack'.

Now, it's all covert, 'I'm not racist but ....', 'are you thinking what I'm thinking'.

That is not technically true. It is only partially true. They do not need to be arriving at an airport or port. There are asylum claims in country from people legitimately already here. It also does not require an airport or port. They must seek asylum upon arrival in a territory, or as soon as possible afterwards. If they delay that may count against a claim.

How do they get on the plane or ship without a visa?

The simplest way to deter the small boats is the one currently being piloted. Allow people to have their claims processed from a third country. If they have the claim accepted they have permission to travel to the UK. If it isn't then they already know that under no circumstances will they ever be legally able to settle in the UK.

In fairness, we are all on here talking about it! I don't think anyone is talking about 'nothing else', we'd cease to function if that were the case, but it'd be daft to suggest it's not a hot topic 🤷

Evidence for that please?

Hate crime and equality laws as well as people potentially losing their jobs over social media posts may have something to do with that.

What sort of visa did you apply for? A student visa, a work visa, a spousal visa? You say that your DH is British. Did he sponsor you to come to the UK? If so, that is hardly an option for asylum seekers from war torn or repressive regimes like Afghanistan.