AIBU to think that racism is getting a lot worse of late.

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Just read this awful story in the Guardian. Awful and makes me feel so angry and so unsafe as a half Black woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

Indeed, the only refugee I know is a maths teacher. What a drain on society!

I saw that. It’s very sad.

I am not sure who I blame. If the conversation can’t be had sensibly by people across the spectrum; then you are going to have this led by social media wildfire, driven by far right. So in my eyes this is a collective failure.

There's much to be proud of about being British such as decency and tolerance.

And I think the Overton window has moved here too. Our British decency and tolerance is how part of this issue has developed. We are very slow/ careful to critique others who we see as having a culture other than British. And also very quick to criticise those who we see as British but don’t agree with. This is itself a form of strange racism.

With the above there’s all kinds of things wrapped up in that.

The whole thing is quite dangerous I agree. What’s the resolution? Trying to stamp on this again and make these people shut up. I don’t think that’s going to work. At best it will for a short period. It will then erupt again on a greater scale next time. And we repeat the process.

@thepariscrimefilesso a black person cannot be proud of their roots, heritage and culture either then?

Eh? Have you read the pp? This man was saying was the most hateful, racist things on his Instagram, but to you he's just a man documenting his country walks... Make it make sense 🤷

@Chickenbone123

The whole thing is quite dangerous I agree. What’s the resolution? Trying to stamp on this again and make these people shut up. I don’t think that’s going to work. At best it will for a short period. It will then erupt again on a greater scale next time. And we repeat the process.

There will always be people who don't want foreigners in the country and who want Britain white. What's the resolution? Those on the far right are calling for mass deportation, remigration, putting people in tents and sending people back to countries where they're at risk of harm.

Our British decency and tolerance is how part of this issue has developed.

That's part of the far right narrative which talks about white genocide, suicidal empathy, a coming race war, "indigenous" people being out bred by Muslims and an invasion of fighting age men ie the Great Replacement theory.

British decency and tolerance is expressed by how few people are joining in far right protests and riots considering how widespread and pernicious these views now are. That's something to be proud of.

Definitely seems to be getting worse- and this is from a white British woman so god only knows what PoC must be facing, including the anxiety of what might happen to them. That poor family in the article you linked OP. Tommy Robinson really is a disgusting and dangerous individual.

@MiloMinderbinder925 There will always be people who don't want foreigners in the country and who want Britain white.

I am old enough to recall Norman Tebbits "cricket test" of Britishness with the implication that anyone who supported any other team than England should be deported. I immediately started supporting the West Indies. Regrettably I am still stuck with British weather...

No, the man (forgive me, I can’t remember where he’s from, but he lives in the UK) is posting videos of him hiking with his daughter.
The comments YourFavouriteFalafel posted are not comments he’s made, they’re comments he’s received 🙂

They also seem to forget that their lord and saviour Tommy Ten Names publicly defended a paedophile friend, describing him as a "top bloke, who'd been stitched up" after he was convicted of making and distributing child porn.

Not to mention the upward of 100 other convicted paedos he used to associate with during his EDL days. But we all know it's never been about protecting children for that lot.

Ahhhhh, thank you for clearing that up. 😄

Thats not what the majority are saying. There is that faction yes. But as you say it’s very small.

I seem to be very centered in terms of distribution of people I talk to. I grew up in a home county. Very well off. Elite perhaps even. White majority. Went to university met a wide range of people. Had a drug problem so met a huge variation in class. Lived in northern cities, southern cities. Now live in a multicultural midlands town and have worked in low wage jobs like care.

Immigration and its related topics (integration, public services, culture, religion, crime, two tier society) is being talked about across the entirety of this spectrum. It’s not just the far right. It’s not just white people. It’s not just lower class, or higher class. Not the right only, or the left. EVERYONE is talking about this. And the majority are not happy with the status quo.

If I was to sum up what people are saying it’s that integration is a problem, 1 million a year net migration is too much, we should not have large groups of men in hotels, the boats are a problem, Islam has a high propensity to radicalise people and that’s a problem, misogyny and male violence is a problem, crime is a problem, housing is a problem, police seem entirely ineffective, there does appear to be many tiers in society on various fronts.

So it’s a collective discussion that does need to be had sensibly. With politicians actually listening. Or things like this are the result.

My colleague is a refugee and she's applying for a new job. I don't know how I'll cope without her - she knows everything! Imagine thinking that refugees and migrants are a subspecies, subsidised by the kinds of people who have time to stand around shouting at hotels 🤣

You’re welcome ☺️ I have to admit when I read the original post I thought the same😂

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@Chickenbone123spot on!

No, they were comments TO this man not BY this man.

There are nearly 70m in the UK, how do you know that they're all talking about immigration?

Why are the people you know talking about immigration and only immigration? How come they're not talking about the effects of austerity and lack of investment for example? Why are they soley focused on foreigners?

Why is crime being blamed on foreigners? Why not a crumbling judicial system, failing prison service, lack of probation staff, lack of police and massive back log in cases?

Why are foreigners being blamed for domestic violence and misogyny in the UK? Women are predominantly abused and sexually assaulted by people they know and stranger attacks are rare.

Why are foreigners being blamed for lack of housing? How come all these people you know aren't discussing right to buy, deregulation of BTL and lack of investment in affordable housing?

I lived there for 15 years, and have worked there for about 20, it really isn't a wonderful city. Yes the very centre, zone 1 has some great museums, theatre, restaurants, architecture, parks. But outside of that is is crowded, dirty, noisy, with people who act aggressively, pushing and shoving others out the way, not making eye contact.

In our town the roundabouts and lampposts are being bedecked with St George’s flags ‘in a protest against immigration’. It’s making me incredibly uncomfortable. No one knows who is behind it but it’s all over a large area. I would hazard a guess that the people doing it can’t even spell immigration tbh.

@Chickenbone123 EVERYONE is talking about this. And the majority are not happy with the status quo.

The problem being, as these threads continue to demonstrate. Talking about something and knowing what you are talking about are not remotely the same thing.
E.g.
"They aren't genuine asylum seekers" - well actually the figures show that some 70% of the are.

And to be fair, I am also not happy with the status quo. Doesn't mean I agree with you, because I don't.

Not in my experience. Always have a lovely time when I visit. I don’t stay 8n the pretty bits either.

I wonder if we should introduce quotas into asylum claims (I'm sure I will be shot down), for certain numbers of makes, females, children etc. I absolutely accept that people are fleeing terrible dangerous conditions, with war, famine, persecution. But I struggle to comprehend why, if it's so dangerous that they need to leave, that men are leaving their women and children behind, whether that's their wives,sisters, nieces/nephews, own children. If it's so dangerous there, that getting in a small boat is felt to be less dangerous than staying. If we could only afford to send a couple of people, 100% my husband would send me and our daughter.

Nonsense!

How can you put a quota on how many people can seek refuge? That literally wouldn't make sense. Not unless the murderous regimes around the world get the memo and the climate emergency abruptly ends.

Because there is no safe route to come and the boats are dangerous, so the men come first, get asylum and then their family can apply for a visa to come safely.