What do you think of when you hear LGBTQ+?

[purpledaze24]

It seems these days, when people see/hear LGBTQ+ they think of trans people & the trans debate. Is this accurate do you think? Or AIBU? I read on here recently about someone rejecting a rainbow badge given to her to wear at work to celebrate pride month (presumably not cos she was homophobic but rather, anti-trans). As a lesbian, this makes me really sad. I’ve always been proud to be a ‘rainbow family’ and want my kids to be proud too, but this association, and takeover imo, of the rainbow symbol & LGBTQ+ acronym by the gender ideology brigade, is creating, at best erasure of LGB people, and at worst, (maybe unintentional) homophobia and discrimination. I respect & understand that trans people have played an important role in the LGBT struggle historically, but it’s this ridiculous escalation of it & all these ‘trans trenders’ and being able to identify as one of 72 different genders etc 🙄

Absolutely. I don’t think of gay people at all when I see it. Just trans and ‘queer’ straight people.

There hasn't been an anti-trans thread for at least 20 minutes...

i will wear a rainbow badge, and have a rainbow flag. I will not touch the progress pride tripe with a barge pole.

Lots of my friends are lesbians, most are aghast at the takeover of women's spaces by men who claim to be women. Some are ok with it. I'm not ok with it and find all the TQ+ invective rather misogynistic and homophobic.

I don’t think of trans really, I think of the older gay generation who established the movement and made so much progress.

trans I would usually think of that pink purple thing they’ve created to be extra special

Lesbian gay bi trans and queer people

I think it’s the being “forced” to celebrate the sexual preferences of others ie wearing a rainbow badge when we don’t want to. I don’t want any group to be picked on or bullied but I’m not prepared to go far as to “celebrate” or “support”.

I can’t say I think of one group over the rest of them, we’re all in there.

LGBTQ+ is the best acronym though because when it was LGBTQIA+ being used it was a bit much.

LGB and QT+ should have remained separate. The joining of the groups makes me roll my eyes and brace for drama because of the pronoun brigade which I know is unfair on the LGB people who are very different.

I think that trying to conflate two separate concepts - sexual attraction and gender identity - into one thing is conceptually unsound.

The LGB part makes sense as a grouping as they all refer to who someone is sexually attracted to. But then adding on a hodgepodge of letters that relate to gender identity doesn’t make any sense.

I just think it’s anyone who isn’t straight.

This

It makes me sick. I hate it.

I’m old and I can’t bear the use of ‘Queer’, it’s deeply insulting.

also, and not many people notice when i'm speaking, i just say LGB and if anyone says "you forgot the TQ+" i say "no, i didn't" or "oh, you know it's what i grew up with"

depending on audience

The TQIA takeover has been so successful I don’t think you can say ‘LGB’ anymore, though I make a point of doing so!

I associate LGBTQIA+ with primarily the erasure of women’s rights but also the increasing risks to hard won gay equality.

I also haven’t swallowed the Koolaid of ‘trans having played an important role in the LGBT struggle historically’. They didn’t. Transvestites and drag queens maybe. But none of those men in female clothing believed a) they had actually changed sex, and b) that that entitled them to violate female spaces. The TRA overreach stands to do harm to gay people, as the lesbians warned when T force-teamed with LGB, and Stonewall became exclusively a trans ‘rights’ organisation.

I politely decline rainbow lanyards because I think LGB have achieved what they set out to do, as I believe do many gay people. The only difference between them and me is what they do in the bedroom, and that doesn’t need celebrating, as such.

I think ‘boring’ - bored of hearing about it, to be honest.

I would also refuse to wear any kind of badge and I would refuse any pronoun changes on emails/letters.

And no, I don’t hate anyone or have a phobia of anyone that is in that group. As long as people are good human beings, that’s all that matters to me.

Same here. I don't give any more emphasis to one part as opposed to another.

Honestly, I think why are the LGB community not more pissed off at the rest jumping on the bandwagon and tagging their letters onto LGB. LGB describes someone's sexuality, the rest is just nonsense and nothing to do with sexuality.

I tend to think anyone that isn't straight. Personally I don't tend to use that term as I can never keep up with all the letters and it's easy to say something wrong and get it in the neck.

I just sign and wonder why other people's bedroom gender preferences are my concern/problem and being shoved in my face. Absolutely support the rights of all sexualities etc but definitely not sure what it has to do in the workplace where all this should be left at the door (along with pronouns).

Really bored of rainbow propaganda. Forced inclusiveness of people who want nothing to do with the unbalanced ideology. A kind of fascism and definitely thought police.

I think of the whole community, including trans.

I always wonder whether they are referring to LGB, or all the rest of the alphabet which gets tagged on.

I don’t think only of trans people when I see the full acronym. But as a “B” I don’t engage at all in the LGBTQ+ community because I just don’t see myself belonging, fitting in or represented there.

I also agree with the comment above that the group should be separate - the struggle in life based on which gender you are sexually attracted to is so very different from the struggle in life of what gender you are yourself. Why lump them together?

If I see “LGB” by itself, I think of the original lesbian, gay and bi causes.

As soon as they add TQA+++ etc, I think of all the painful, blue-haired, often straight-but-special brigade who erase women’s rights and completely dominate the space. The focus on them completely obliterates the visibility and needs of any LGB element.